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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1381 Post by xorxes » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:57 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:54 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:52 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:39 pm


That does not help because his extra vote is only good for one day. If we mislynch today we lose no matter what damian does, unless we get a doc save, which is unlikely.
But we at least get an extra doc-save chance.
That assumes there is read doctor. I believe Vecna's claim has been confirmed fake by the GM answer.
Who is third scum with Fox and Vecna, in your opinion?

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#1382 Post by xorxes » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:00 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:55 pm

I suggest Vecna and ghug tell him what to do, bearing in mind that bozo and Ezio want him to use it.
Actually, he should do what ghug tells him to, as he is the only clear clear.

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#1383 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:00 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:57 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:54 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:52 pm


But we at least get an extra doc-save chance.
That assumes there is read doctor. I believe Vecna's claim has been confirmed fake by the GM answer.
Who is third scum with Fox and Vecna, in your opinion?
I would like damian to confirm it is not him. If he does, I am not sure between you, Ezio and rdrivera.

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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1384 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:01 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:00 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:55 pm

I suggest Vecna and ghug tell him what to do, bearing in mind that bozo and Ezio want him to use it.
Actually, he should do what ghug tells him to, as he is the only clear clear.
I agree, and ghug should tell him to use his vote.

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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1385 Post by xorxes » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:07 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:00 pm
xorxes wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:57 pm

Who is third scum with Fox and Vecna, in your opinion?
I would like damian to confirm it is not him. If he does, I am not sure between you, Ezio and rdrivera.
Not even an order of likelyhood?

For me it's

TOWN ghug >> Vecna >>> damian >> rivera > bozo > Ezio > Fox SCUM

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#1386 Post by damian » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:08 pm

I’m back.

Ultimately with my extra vote today I’ll do what Ghug asks. Because he’s our only confirmed townie.

I think Vecna has the right of it though when it comes to when I should use my vote. I’m not entirely sold on his doc claim. But if he’s lying scum will kill me tonight anyways so it makes zero difference if I’m cleared by my power or not.

Unless Ezio et. al are genuinely convinced they can mislynch me tomorrow.

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#1387 Post by damian » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:10 pm

If Fox it town and I use my vote we lose.

Given the above Ezi/Bozoo why would we not wait to use it tomorrow. On the slim chance we’re mislynching fox?

Are you both 100% sure fox is scum?

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#1388 Post by Vecna » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:16 pm

Well Bozo is at least correct in that if Fox flips town here, its likely lost because I cannot save both you and me until were down to 1 scum.

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#1389 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:17 pm

Veccy, I was really hoping they'd just kill you and we wouldn't have to deal with your unconfirmability.

I believe Vecna. I was gonna tell y'all before possibly dying, and he definitely could be faking, but it's entirely reasonable for the GM to privately clarify about someone's own role and refuse to tell in public. I think three is a likely number of PRs, and I think it's more likely there's a doc than a cop given the Oracle.

Damian should confirm himself today. If he's truthful, there'll be a confirmed town to follow tomorrow, whether it's me or him. If he's lying, we get a lynch.

##VOTE Fox

Damian, please do the same.

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#1390 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:18 pm

If Fox is town, we likely lose anyway.

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#1391 Post by xorxes » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:18 pm

damian wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:10 pm
If Fox it town and I use my vote we lose.

Given the above Ezi/Bozoo why would we not wait to use it tomorrow. On the slim chance we’re mislynching fox?

Are you both 100% sure fox is scum?
Bozo was Fox's guilty scan, of course he has to say 100%.

Ezio is probably 100% sure as well, but he can't admit it.

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#1392 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:19 pm

And the extra vote would allow us to postpone loss a day with even numbers, but we'd still lose the next day, so there's no actual value there.

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#1393 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:20 pm

Xorxes would have better process thoughts as town.

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#1394 Post by xorxes » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:22 pm

ghug wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:19 pm
And the extra vote would allow us to postpone loss a day with even numbers, but we'd still lose the next day, so there's no actual value there.
It gives doc one more chance to save.

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#1395 Post by damian » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:22 pm

Extra vote submitted.

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#1396 Post by xorxes » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:25 pm

ghug wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:20 pm
Xorxes would have better process thoughts as town.
My process thoughts evolved the same way as yours if you read back... ;)

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#1397 Post by ghug » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:34 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:25 pm
ghug wrote:
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Xorxes would have better process thoughts as town.
My process thoughts evolved the same way as yours if you read back... ;)
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#1398 Post by Vecna » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:34 pm

damian wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:22 pm
Extra vote submitted.
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#1399 Post by bozotheclown » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:35 pm

ghug wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:17 pm
Veccy, I was really hoping they'd just kill you and we wouldn't have to deal with your unconfirmability.

I believe Vecna. I was gonna tell y'all before possibly dying, and he definitely could be faking, but it's entirely reasonable for the GM to privately clarify about someone's own role and refuse to tell in public. I think three is a likely number of PRs, and I think it's more likely there's a doc than a cop given the Oracle.

Damian should confirm himself today. If he's truthful, there'll be a confirmed town to follow tomorrow, whether it's me or him. If he's lying, we get a lynch.

##VOTE Fox

Damian, please do the same.
If the information about whether or not someone saved would get a message confirming the save was not in the doctor PM, why would the GM answer that question for the doctor and no one else?

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#1400 Post by damian » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:39 pm

Ghug and Xorxes are right. If Fox is town it doesn’t do much for us. Because we still lose. After the 3-3 becomes 2-2 and I’ve already used my vote. Unless thy don’t have a factional kill? So many variables.

If he’s scum it’s just a guessing game of who to kill of the two of us.

I’m going to trust Ghug’s got the best interests of the town at heart for his suggestions. He’s the closest thing we have to a town leader right now If you can convince him saving it is better I’ll go along with it.

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