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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1081 Post by Durga » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:14 pm

Vote count
Foxcastle (3) Balki Bartokomous, ghug, damian
Balki Bartokomous (3) xorxes, bozotheclown, Foxcastle
bozotheclown (3) Ezio, rdrivera2005, Vecna

Ooooh it's a three way ;) no one is set to die, they're only set to have fun

you have hours

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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1082 Post by damian » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:14 pm

Flipping back through the day he talks about wanting to build a case for Bozo later when he gets back from work when he places his vote and yet all he does from there is ask “who in the game isn’t scumreading Bozo”

Where is the case for Bozo.

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#1083 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:52 pm

I'm still stuck on Bozo because I just don't see how scum didn't end on Squigs day 1. Squigs is is good cover for scum. If scum isn't on squigs, then they have 2-3 clumped up on ND, or are naturally exposed to scrutiny if/when Ezio or Damian flip.

I don't find his no-lynch idea scummy on its own. But he basically ran with that idea because people (including me) were questioning whether there was a night kill. He hedges on that ("does not seem particularly likely") but uses it as the basis for pushing no-lynch.

P9, "I like you as a counterwagon to damian right now." Said in context of discounting Squigs vote on him. I know Bozo is logical and process oriented, but looking at things in terms of counter wagons on page 9 seems early when there's still a lot of scumhunting to do. Why is Bozo already thinking of counter wagons? That seems like something scum would be thinking of early.

Does anyone know if belligerent Bozo is town or scum?

He looks better more recently, or maybe I'm just biased because I like his vote on Balki. That said, I am skeptical that Balki and Bozo would be scum together.

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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1084 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:58 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:16 am
We had 3 flips at EOD2! That was a ton of information. All townies other than ghug have a small pool of 7 from which to find 3 scum. This game is getting easier. People need to use all of the information they just got.

Go go go...
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
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You sound dumb. Are you dumb?
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
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I am not impressed with my teammates right now.

#notimpressedwithmyteammates
This is some of what I remember from scum Balki in M34. Aggressive, demanding action. I think in that game he was on a plane peppering the thread with questions in the middle of the night trying to stir the pot. But again, what does he do with it? Almost nothing.

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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1085 Post by Foxcastle » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:06 pm

ghug wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:42 pm
##VOTE Foxcastle
Can I ask why?

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#1086 Post by Ezio » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:09 pm

These wagons make my skin crawl.
Balki bozo Damian scum team?

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#1087 Post by Ezio » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:12 pm

Ehh probably too unlikely. Most likely paranoia.

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#1088 Post by xorxes » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:13 pm

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:17 pm

Argument 2 (Xorxes):
Scum is likely spread out. So, because Balki voted for Ezio Day 1 and then rdrivera on Day 2, and nobody else fits that profile, then Balki could be scum.

This has a lot of the characteristics of the argument above, in that it has a progression that leads to more mislynches and it gives the author an excuse to narrow their focus. It also lacks logic, as there is no reason to think that scum are "maximally spread."

I find this to be a bit less scum indicative because Xorxes has not pushed it a ton as his main reasoning. He just posted it as more of a general consideration, and it doesn't seem to be the thing driving Xorxes's read. Xorxes's reaction to my Damian town read looks more genuine.
I agree. This argument by itself doesn't say much. It was just a happy coincidence that the four people that came out of it where exactly the Sleazy Four which I had identified before without doing any wagon analysis.

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#1089 Post by damian » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:14 pm

Ezio wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:09 pm
These wagons make my skin crawl.
Balki bozo Damian scum team?
Why do the wagons make your skin crawl? Two of the wagons are for people you suspect are scum.

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#1090 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:14 pm

Ezio wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:09 pm
These wagons make my skin crawl.
Balki bozo Damian scum team?
What does this mean?

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#1091 Post by Vecna » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:15 pm

##vote Balki

Im starting to suspect if maybe I was wrong about Ezio.

Xorxes/Balki/Ezio seems like a real possibility here.

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#1092 Post by damian » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:15 pm

Arguably all three Fox, Balki, Bozo are your scum reads. Given your scum read of fox one page ago.

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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1093 Post by xorxes » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:19 pm

Ezio wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:34 pm
Shit you know what it is? I don't think bozo or fox talked to me at all yesterday. I think that's what feels weird about them.
I was around so much, spewing so much bullshit,ni was expecting some sort of reaction or response. Something from them to me, or at least talking to people about me, or at least concrete reads of what I was doing and what th y thought about it.
I'm not sure I got any nod that from fox or bozo, or RD, or frankly xorxes. I understand why xorxes would have a hard time with it, given that I was doing it about him.
Aaargh! This is so disingenuous I almost want to lynch Ezio now. The reason nobody has paid any attention to you, and I assume the reason nobody is putting much pressure on me either, is because you implied you had privileged information that would suggest I'm town. If that is not the case and you were just pulling a brainbomb you will have a lot of explaining to do tomorrow.

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#1094 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:19 pm

Hey, I just returned. I'm going to finish up my #ghugtask and then catch up on the last page or so.

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#1095 Post by damian » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:21 pm

Can we though. He looks way scummier than Balki.

##Vote Ezio

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#1096 Post by bozotheclown » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:25 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:58 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:16 am
We had 3 flips at EOD2! That was a ton of information. All townies other than ghug have a small pool of 7 from which to find 3 scum. This game is getting easier. People need to use all of the information they just got.

Go go go...
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:31 am
You sound dumb. Are you dumb?
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:51 am
I am not impressed with my teammates right now.

#notimpressedwithmyteammates
This is some of what I remember from scum Balki in M34. Aggressive, demanding action. I think in that game he was on a plane peppering the thread with questions in the middle of the night trying to stir the pot. But again, what does he do with it? Almost nothing.
I thought about the similarities of M34 also.

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Re: Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

#1097 Post by xorxes » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:29 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:52 pm
He looks better more recently, or maybe I'm just biased because I like his vote on Balki. That said, I am skeptical that Balki and Bozo would be scum together.
Why are you skeptical?

I don't know if you already did this, but could you list your seven unknowns from scummiest to towniest? (Or the other way around if you prefer.)

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#1098 Post by Ezio » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:34 pm

Sorry I phrased poorly.

Foxcastle wagon gav me a e terrible feel.

Felt like balki and Damian hopped on too fast after the townclear lead the way.

As I said, probably paranoia.

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#1099 Post by ghug » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:35 pm

Why'd you vote Foxy, Damian?

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#1100 Post by Ezio » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:36 pm

xorxes wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:19 pm
Ezio wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:34 pm
Shit you know what it is? I don't think bozo or fox talked to me at all yesterday. I think that's what feels weird about them.
I was around so much, spewing so much bullshit,ni was expecting some sort of reaction or response. Something from them to me, or at least talking to people about me, or at least concrete reads of what I was doing and what th y thought about it.
I'm not sure I got any nod that from fox or bozo, or RD, or frankly xorxes. I understand why xorxes would have a hard time with it, given that I was doing it about him.
Aaargh! This is so disingenuous I almost want to lynch Ezio now. The reason nobody has paid any attention to you, and I assume the reason nobody is putting much pressure on me either, is because you implied you had privileged information that would suggest I'm town. If that is not the case and you were just pulling a brainbomb you will have a lot of explaining to do tomorrow.
My privelaged information is that I've spent a ton of time looking at your metas. I think I've found it, and I think you're town. And I mean, I'm fucking certain you're town. I am not claiming. I have never said I'm claiming. I've just said this read is golden, and town might as well treat it like a claim.

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