Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

[damian]

I'm not saying not being around at EOD should give you lynch immunity.
I just don't like that timing. He leaves, votes start.

I'd feel a lot better about it if there was a solid case. As far as I can tell the case thus far is. ND has not had any obv town moments? Am I missing something?

[Squigs44]

This is frustrating because probably only one person on me is scum.

[Vecna]

You do realize that logic is roughly similair to the logic being used against Squigs right? I really dont see why youre so opposed to the wagon. ND as town has limited influences on the game, his reads generally arent stellar, but his townplay is often recognizable. but he is a big danger that often endgames if scum. I dont see any problem with taking a small gamble on that here.

In my mind it has a much better chance of flipping scum than the alternatives. So kindly, unless you have reason to townread the slot, shove your shading of our ND wagon .

[xorxes]

Re-read ND. It was a short read.
Is there a case against him, because I'm really not seeing much either way? If lazy scum is his meta (apparently it isn't?) I'd buy it.

With that said. I don't love the ND train as an alternate wagon, because it sprung up suddenly right after he said he couldn't be on for EOD.

So who do you like less, Flum or Vecna?

[xorxes]

Another hedgy post, but you have a point. Trying to start a wagon on ND at last hour with him stating he won´t be online is scummy to me.

Who is scummier, Flum or Vecna?

[Fluminator]

I'm more a little surprised people are actively saying they don't think ND is scum. I could understand "he's null, don't want to vote" but I don't see where the town reads are coming from.

[Vecna]

Thats actually a viable question. Not liking the timing implies you think we do it with malicious intent, and not because were town with a read.

[Vecna]

Especially from Rdrivera; You know that my alternative wagon would be you. So why are you against me wagoning ND, while you should know yourself to be a mislynch?

You said you townread me. Why do you label my vote as scumm?

[rdrivera2005]

Another hedgy post, but you have a point. Trying to start a wagon on ND at last hour with him stating he won´t be online is scummy to me.

Who is scummier, Flum or Vecna?

On this, I think Flum, as I don´t remember him talking about ND before. Vecna was already saying he didn´t like the wagons and want to start a new one on me or ND.

And for the record, I don´t have a town read on ND, just don´t have anything that stroke me as scummy and find weird the voting on him started after he leaved.

[xorxes]

Yeah, but is ND usually lazy scum? He’s usually manic scum

He has like 5+ different ways of playing scum

True.

Last time I thought he was scum and he turned out to be town.

[Tom Bombadil]

I don't really think Flum is scum either.
Best townreads are damian and Flum currently.

Worried about Balki a smidge. Still think squigs is scum. Unsure on most of the rest.

[Tom Bombadil]

Oh. xorx is probably town as well.

[rdrivera2005]

Especially from Rdrivera; You know that my alternative wagon would be you. So why are you against me wagoning ND, while you should know yourself to be a mislynch?

You said you townread me. Why do you label my vote as scumm?

I didn´t label your vote as scummy (look my answer to Xorxes).

[Tom Bombadil]

I see a bit of the argument I guess on ND, but I'm not sold. What stuck with me is I think Vecna said that ND usually obvtowns, and I haven't gotten that from him yet. Its typically his best asset as a town player.

[Vecna]

Especially from Rdrivera; You know that my alternative wagon would be you. So why are you against me wagoning ND, while you should know yourself to be a mislynch?

You said you townread me. Why do you label my vote as scumm?

I didn´t label your vote as scummy (look my answer to Xorxes).

Yeah it was a crosspost, fair enough I guess

[damian]

I always like Vecna less. I spent a significant amount of time the first time I played with him tunneling him. I was dead wrong that time. I've tried to update my priors but he still just feels kinda scummy to me.

I don't think the cases are really the same. Aside from both being meta-driven. But I agree that Squig isn't a great lynch. Which is why I wish you were making a more compelling case. The gamble on ND being the scum deep threat is probably the best argument you've made thus far. But I'm not sure if I believe it because I don't know ND's playstyle that well.

[Balki Bartokomous]

##vote Damian

[Fluminator]

@ghug. you asked where I was voting. I'm on ND or Ezio if that doesn't work. Please vote one of these two.

[Vecna]

I see a bit of the argument I guess on ND, but I'm not sold. What stuck with me is I think Vecna said that ND usually obvtowns, and I haven't gotten that from him yet. Its typically his best asset as a town player.

Well, maybe saying he "usually obvtowns" is a bit disingenuous......but in this streak of posts I didnt find anything that struck out to me, or that portrayed interesting and unique town trains of thought that had an actual contribution.

Just "please dont notice me, im your typical ND spewing whatever to stay under the radar".

[Balki Bartokomous]

Nah, ##vote Ezio