Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

[damian]

Re-read ND. It was a short read.
Is there a case against him, because I'm really not seeing much either way? If lazy scum is his meta (apparently it isn't?) I'd buy it.

With that said. I don't love the ND train as an alternate wagon, because it sprung up suddenly right after he said he couldn't be on for EOD.

[rdrivera2005]

##Vote ND
Willing to switch to Ezio

What about Rdrivera?

You are starting to hurt my feelings.

[xorxes]

Sorry for being vague but it have been a busy day for me (and I can't enter in details about it). But I was honest, I don't have any solid reads and I think anyone who claim that have it is lying or have a too good opinion on himself.

Are you actually insinuating that there may be people here who have a too high opinion of themselves?

[Fluminator]

Re-read ND. It was a short read.
Is there a case against him, because I'm really not seeing much either way? If lazy scum is his meta (apparently it isn't?) I'd buy it.

With that said. I don't love the ND train as an alternate wagon, because it sprung up suddenly right after he said he couldn't be on for EOD.

Do two votes really count as a wagon these days? lol

[rdrivera2005]

Re-read ND. It was a short read.
Is there a case against him, because I'm really not seeing much either way? If lazy scum is his meta (apparently it isn't?) I'd buy it.

With that said. I don't love the ND train as an alternate wagon, because it sprung up suddenly right after he said he couldn't be on for EOD.

Another hedgy post, but you have a point. Trying to start a wagon on ND at last hour with him stating he won´t be online is scummy to me.

[rdrivera2005]

Sorry for being vague but it have been a busy day for me (and I can't enter in details about it). But I was honest, I don't have any solid reads and I think anyone who claim that have it is lying or have a too good opinion on himself.

Are you actually insinuating that there may be people here who have a too high opinion of themselves?

I will never insinuate such a thing in such a high level game...

[Fluminator]

Another hedgy post, but you have a point.

[Foxcastle]

I'm scumreading Squigs, because I think it's more likely that he's deliberately trying to cover his scum meta (which he has complained about before) than simply that he decided to try something new with this aggressive questioning approach. Based on a brief comparison to the Tiny Hunt game, I don't buy that this is that same meta. Squigs has complained that he was unhappy with his scum play, so I see motive there to cover it up.

I am leaning scum Ezio because I think his plan for lynching people based on who's good/bad scum/town was off. I mean, the plan was flawed, but also it was off that he proposed it. But it's not a strong read. Also, he has posted more and been more engaged than in previous games, which is different, but then this is a different game, and besides, he's been silent for something like 15 hours now, so who knows if that means/meant anything.

I think Ezio is the more interesting flip, so that's where my vote is now, and also to prompt him to participate if he shows back up before EOD. But given that he hasn't been around to make it more or less interesting, I suspect that he will actually not get a wagon today. (I try not to read too much into when people are around, but I also think it's true that we tend to lynch active players over less active players, so lurking is in fact a good scum strategy early on...)

I'm having a little trouble on Damian, but am leaning scum on. He was super awkward, and that's not scummy in and of itself, but there's something off there. Also, his style and tone is different from what I can tell by a brief comparison to his last town game (M33). After the whole color test, I'm not sure what to think—that was silly (not scummy), and some of his questioning after that has gotten better, and I don't have a real baseline for him.

Balki, Xorxes, and Vecna seem pretty townie. But they are often hard for me to read. Ghug and Flum, too.

Bozo seems like town. Or at least seems like he's not scum. I would not vote for Bozo at this point, but I do want to see how that progresses.

I don't scumread ND and rdrivera, and rdrivera is another player that's hard for me to read, but I usually have a better sense of them as time goes by. (And then there's my old theory that when rdrivera is being scumread by a significant portion of game, he's actually town, and when he's mostly townread is when he's scum... We'll see.)

[Vecna]

Yeah, but is ND usually lazy scum? He’s usually manic scum

He has like 5+ different ways of playing scum

[Vecna]

Can you give me a game where he was manic scum so I can skim through it?

My advise would be to -not- try to meta-logic yourself into an ND read. Look at his posts for genuine "THESE WOULD ONLY EVER BE THOUGHT OF BY TOWN PLAYERS" type of posts. That is how you can get a dependable townread on the slot. Otherwise, youre just gonna get endgames by ND. When he's trying, he is one of the most convincing scum players on this website. (the very stark exception being two games ago, where he went in full-on trump lol-mode).

[xorxes]

Those 3 usually play in this way regardless of alignment. But I don't like giving scummy play a pass because meta.
Although I no longer want to lynch damian lmao.

Bozo, I don't think I've ever seen you get emotional. Are you a robot. Give me something human! Where do you live, what's your job?

Ezio, what did you expect the response to your long post would be?

Towny post.

[Vecna]

Re-read ND. It was a short read.
Is there a case against him, because I'm really not seeing much either way? If lazy scum is his meta (apparently it isn't?) I'd buy it.

With that said. I don't love the ND train as an alternate wagon, because it sprung up suddenly right after he said he couldn't be on for EOD.

Not like I wasnt talking about it just before, or not like he hasnt posted the material that were judging him on before that announcement....

Not being around is someone's own responsbility. It should never be lynch-immunity. In fact, its way too easy to avoid vote analysis vulnerability as scum by doing that.

[Fluminator]

I agree with that Vecna. I was mainly asking to see if Tom could back up his claim because I'm still not completely sold on town Tom.

[Vecna]

##Vote ND
Willing to switch to Ezio

What about Rdrivera?

You are starting to hurt my feelings.

By asking him if he also agrees with my 3rd read of questionable people?

[worcej]

Current Vote Count:
Squigs44 (4) ghug, Tom Bombadil, bozotheclown, ND
damian (2) xorxes, Ezio
bozotheclown (2) Squigs44, damian
Ezio (2) rdrivera2005, Foxcastle
ND (2) Fluminator, Vecna
Foxcastle (1) Balki Bartokomous

Currently Squigs44 is set to be lynched.

All posting requirements have been met.

There are 49 minutes left in D1.

[xorxes]

Bozo, if you could ask three players a question and they had to answer honestly. Who would you want to ask, and what would you ask?

I am going to choose to ignore this question also.

Why is bozo being so cranky?

[Vecna]

who knows, maybe a baboon stole his soda?

[Vecna]

Oh btw Fox, I dont disagree with your analysis on Squigs. It passed my mind as well, especially at the start.

BUT I also think looking at it from that way, youre going to flag any of his townplay that is marginally different from an earlier game, as him just trying badly to improve on his scumplay.

You might be right, you might be wrong. Faking it this long, consistently, while he clearly is not used to it, will be hard though. I think itll become apparent one way or the other fast. I think its a mistake already lynching him here, as ive said before. Ill leave it at that for now.

[rdrivera2005]

What about Rdrivera?

You are starting to hurt my feelings.

By asking him if he also agrees with my 3rd read of questionable people?

You know that was a joke, don´t you? I seem to have problems with my tone so people don´t get when I am joking.

[Foxcastle]

The point about squigs not being able to keep up the appearance is probably true either way because it’s not his natural style. But if it comes down to him and lesser scumreads, I’ll vote for him.