Mafia Invitational - Welcome to Wakanda

[Tom Bombadil]

Ok real quick =P

So Killmonger could have been a really neat, multi-dimensional character, and then they fucked it all up by dumbing it down. It started so well where the audience could sympathize with his motives and how his mistreatment led to his worldview. And then, instead of exploring that, they make him a straight villian character by having him basically say, lets all unite and get guns and kill everyone because they are bad..

[Foxcastle]

So, do scum simply have to grind out the win without any NK? I was thinking that the closed set up was scum-sided by nature, but if there's no NK, that possibly balances it out for town.

Eh...why do you assume scum have no kill?

I find it interesting that you are talking about game balance. Many of us don't know the roles or the mechanics on either side of the teeter-totter, so it is hard to add much to your discussion.

Because there's no night phase? I guess there are other ways to do it, but Occam's Razor maybe suggests that no night == no night kill == a game of pure deduction.

Having just come off running my own game, I've been thinking about balance a lot lately. But also, I doubt Durga is going to run an unbalanced game, so I think that's a valid factor in how to think about the game.

[Squigs44]

Rdrivera and Bozo have been scum recently and proven themselves very capable threats, but they are definitely not alone on this list. Ezio looks like the only likely lurker.

What is this supposed to mean? What am I supposed to learn from this?

[Squigs44]

So, do scum simply have to grind out the win without any NK? I was thinking that the closed set up was scum-sided by nature, but if there's no NK, that possibly balances it out for town.

Eh...why do you assume scum have no kill?

I find it interesting that you are talking about game balance. Many of us don't know the roles or the mechanics on either side of the teeter-totter, so it is hard to add much to your discussion.

Because there's no night phase? I guess there are other ways to do it, but Occam's Razor maybe suggests that no night == no night kill == a game of pure deduction.

Having just come off running my own game, I've been thinking about balance a lot lately. But also, I doubt Durga is going to run an unbalanced game, so I think that's a valid factor in how to think about the game.

Yes, I'm sure Durga made the game balanced, so why are you talking about balance? Do you think that our methods of finding scum change if they don't have a traditional NK? How does this change how town should view the game?

[Squigs44]

So, do scum simply have to grind out the win without any NK? I was thinking that the closed set up was scum-sided by nature, but if there's no NK, that possibly balances it out for town. But I've also never played a closed set up before.

Not that it matters on Day 1, where we know as much now as we ever know.

Rdrivera and Bozo have been scum recently and proven themselves very capable threats, but they are definitely not alone on this list. Ezio looks like the only likely lurker.

What was wrong with Black Panther, Tom?
And what's wrong with Xorxes, for that matter?

There is alot I didn't care for about Black Panther. The action sequences are poor. The acting was fine, but nothing spectacular. And the film doesn't have anything interesting to say - even though it thinks its making a big statement about something. Alas, we can discuss this outside of game thread.

As far as why I'm voting xorx, I dunno. Seems like a good vote right now.

So you are voting someone for vague reasons and spend the rest of the time commentating on flavor. Solid start Tom.

[Squigs44]

This is going to be tough.

Why?

[Tom Bombadil]

I find it interesting that you are talking about game balance. Many of us don't know the roles or the mechanics on either side of the teeter-totter, so it is hard to add much to your discussion.

Can you expand on this Balki? What is interesting about it? I interpret it as you finding Foxy fishy, but if thats the case, this seems much less direct than you usually are. What gives?

[Tom Bombadil]

So, do scum simply have to grind out the win without any NK? I was thinking that the closed set up was scum-sided by nature, but if there's no NK, that possibly balances it out for town. But I've also never played a closed set up before.

Not that it matters on Day 1, where we know as much now as we ever know.

Rdrivera and Bozo have been scum recently and proven themselves very capable threats, but they are definitely not alone on this list. Ezio looks like the only likely lurker.

What was wrong with Black Panther, Tom?
And what's wrong with Xorxes, for that matter?

There is alot I didn't care for about Black Panther. The action sequences are poor. The acting was fine, but nothing spectacular. And the film doesn't have anything interesting to say - even though it thinks its making a big statement about something. Alas, we can discuss this outside of game thread.

As far as why I'm voting xorx, I dunno. Seems like a good vote right now.

So you are voting someone for vague reasons and spend the rest of the time commentating on flavor. Solid start Tom.

Thanks. You know, because normally people have high conviction reads less than 4 hours into a game. I'm sorry to disappoint you.

[ghug]

##vote Balki love you Balki

[ghug]

No reveal means we need to scumhunt. They probably do get to kill at night That's how these usually are.

[Squigs44]

No reveal means we need to scumhunt. They probably do get to kill at night That's how these usually are.

I know you don't read mechanics, so I'll spell it out for you here:

There is no night phase

[ghug]

No reveal means we need to scumhunt. They probably do get to kill at night That's how these usually are.

I know you don't read mechanics, so I'll spell it out for you here:

There is no night phase

I'm aware. I've played one or two of these with our GM involved. Mafia kills EOD. Ask Ezio I feel him hard.

[ghug]

Fucked*

I won and it was good

[ND]

Wait, so there is a kill mechanic built in @ghug? How are you sure that there is? I've never been in a closed game like this and there is no information provided on it.

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote ND

Those questions serve no purpose other than filler. He literally answered all of those.

[Squigs44]

No reveal means we need to scumhunt. They probably do get to kill at night That's how these usually are.

I know you don't read mechanics, so I'll spell it out for you here:

There is no night phase

I'm aware. I've played one or two of these with our GM involved. Mafia kills EOD. Ask Ezio I feel him hard.

So you were aware there was no night, but said they probably kill at night... Okay.

[Squigs44]

Wait, so there is a kill mechanic built in @ghug? How are you sure that there is? I've never been in a closed game like this and there is no information provided on it.

Yeah, this looks like ND trying hard to be ignorant. He usually has a more sage intellect.

[Tom Bombadil]

When did you get so sassy Squigs?

[rdrivera2005]

Hi fine Wakanda folks. I don't think I played a setup like this before, but I played a no-reveal and I think it isn't so different. We need to focus on finding scum and not on mechanics.

I found Ghug starting post even worst then usual, with that "I don't care for setup" feeling.

And Squigs is a lot more agressive on this game.

[Ezio]

No reveal means we need to scumhunt. They probably do get to kill at night That's how these usually are.

I know you don't read mechanics, so I'll spell it out for you here:

There is no night phase

I'm aware. I've played one or two of these with our GM involved. Mafia kills EOD. Ask Ezio I feel him hard.

You referring to the discord game? That was an odd one. This game is entirely unlike that one, and I'm sure you know why.
##Vote Tom. You've played enough with Xorxes to know that's a dumb first vote.