MINI MAFIA IV GAME THREAD

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie it's because I have a banana chemise.

Should we consider Ike? Isn't the total silence worth a few feet of rope?

It would be if he still hasn't shown up in a few hours. It's not like Ike to be this absent.

I'd kind of like to see Xorxes' response to being on the block first.

[bozotheclown]

1. hypo cop/tracker/friendly neighbor claims, yes or no?
2. No Lynch as a viable day 1 option, yes or no?

bozotheclown: yes, yes
brainbomb
damo666
DrCJG
foodcoats
Jamiet99uk: no, no
Nephthys
RagingIke
thdfrance: no, no
worcej: no, no
xorxes

Why is there little interest in trying something different?

[Nephthys]

xorxes is scum.
feel free to remember I can read him as basically anything at will

Can you elaborate on this a little, is there anything more that you have to add other than the initial few posts you mentioned a page ago? Normally how good are you at reading him?

[brainbomb]

##Vote bozo

if he doesnt cease this nonsense at once we should just kill him. this is tiresome and does nothing to advance the game productively. weve done this crap over and over and none of this is useful to the game of mafia.

it must stop.

##End

[bozotheclown]

Last game I think you did hard claim town when xorxes pressured you.

I stand corrected, I did actually do it in a post after. For reference:

Sure, I hardclaim town. Happy?

Glad that's sorted out.

What made you think I was upset?

Maybe worcej realized there was no getting around making a fake claim as scum.

[Nephthys]

Jamie it's because I have a banana chemise.

Should we consider Ike? Isn't the total silence worth a few feet of rope?

I'm inclined to agree with Jamie on this one, I don't think just yet there is any reason to be throwing out votes for Ike yet, after all there is still a reasonable amount of time left today and even then my personal opinion is that it would be only viable if we don't have any scum-reads.

[Nephthys]

1. hypo cop/tracker/friendly neighbor claims, yes or no?
2. No Lynch as a viable day 1 option, yes or no?

bozotheclown: yes, yes
brainbomb
damo666
DrCJG
foodcoats
Jamiet99uk: no, no
Nephthys
RagingIke
thdfrance: no, no
worcej: no, no
xorxes

Why is there little interest in trying something different?

my personal hesitancy revolves around the trade off of time that I personally think it better used scumhunting. It seems from the other games I have semi-followed that the PRs manage to leave the clues so that post-flip its obvious which is the same scenario in which the hypo claim becomes useful.

That being said if people are for it then I guess I could get behind it...

[bozotheclown]

worcej is my top scum suspect based on what appeared to be an attempt to avoid hard claiming town.

[Nephthys]

I stand corrected, I did actually do it in a post after. For reference:

Glad that's sorted out.

What made you think I was upset?

Maybe worcej realized there was no getting around making a fake claim as scum.

Seeing as he never lies, surely at the start of every game he would be pressured to hard-claim town (as we have already seen).

Based on this I have to agree with you that his previous honesty is actually reason why we should be more skeptical of his claim.

[bozotheclown]

1. hypo cop/tracker/friendly neighbor claims, yes or no?
2. No Lynch as a viable day 1 option, yes or no?

bozotheclown: yes, yes
brainbomb
damo666
DrCJG
foodcoats
Jamiet99uk: no, no
Nephthys
RagingIke
thdfrance: no, no
worcej: no, no
xorxes

Why is there little interest in trying something different?

my personal hesitancy revolves around the trade off of time that I personally think it better used scumhunting. It seems from the other games I have semi-followed that the PRs manage to leave the clues so that post-flip its obvious which is the same scenario in which the hypo claim becomes useful.

That being said if people are for it then I guess I could get behind it...

The problem is that these clues often get picked up by scum before the PR flips.

[bozotheclown]

##Vote bozo

if he doesnt cease this nonsense at once we should just kill him. this is tiresome and does nothing to advance the game productively. weve done this crap over and over and none of this is useful to the game of mafia.

it must stop.

##End

This is how I would expect scum to react, I think brainbomb is now my second most likely scum suspect after worcej. The brainbomb/Jamie interactions are obviously different than in recent games, maybe they are scum together.

[Nephthys]

1. hypo cop/tracker/friendly neighbor claims, yes or no?
2. No Lynch as a viable day 1 option, yes or no?

bozotheclown: yes, yes
brainbomb
damo666
DrCJG
foodcoats
Jamiet99uk: no, no
Nephthys
RagingIke
thdfrance: no, no
worcej: no, no
xorxes

Why is there little interest in trying something different?

my personal hesitancy revolves around the trade off of time that I personally think it better used scumhunting. It seems from the other games I have semi-followed that the PRs manage to leave the clues so that post-flip its obvious which is the same scenario in which the hypo claim becomes useful.

That being said if people are for it then I guess I could get behind it...

The problem is that these clues often get picked up by scum before the PR flips.

Forgive me for being naive but how?
Surely keeping it simple and in a reads list would keep things from being noticed to easily?
If that truly is the case then, your idea may have more validity than I initially thought.

[bozotheclown]

my personal hesitancy revolves around the trade off of time that I personally think it better used scumhunting. It seems from the other games I have semi-followed that the PRs manage to leave the clues so that post-flip its obvious which is the same scenario in which the hypo claim becomes useful.

That being said if people are for it then I guess I could get behind it...

The problem is that these clues often get picked up by scum before the PR flips.

Forgive me for being naive but how?
Surely keeping it simple and in a reads list would keep things from being noticed to easily?
If that truly is the case then, your idea may have more validity than I initially thought.

As an example, a cop is likely to scan someone he has publicly scum read, and if he gets an innocent scan, he may then make his scan target one of his top town reads to make his scan obvious if he gets NKed. Scum looking for PRs might pick up on read changes like this.

[Jamiet99uk]

worcej is my top scum suspect based on what appeared to be an attempt to avoid hard claiming town.

What incentive would scum have to avoid claiming to be town?

Bozo why are you so bad today?

[Jamiet99uk]

Seriously, Bozo, walk us through scum Worcej's thought process, if he was indeed unwilling to say if he was town or not.

[bozotheclown]

worcej is my top scum suspect based on what appeared to be an attempt to avoid hard claiming town.

What incentive would scum have to avoid claiming to be town?

Bozo why are you so bad today?

Are you familiar with worcej's history of saying he never fake claims?

[Nephthys]

The problem is that these clues often get picked up by scum before the PR flips.

Forgive me for being naive but how?
Surely keeping it simple and in a reads list would keep things from being noticed to easily?
If that truly is the case then, your idea may have more validity than I initially thought.

As an example, a cop is likely to scan someone he has publicly scum read, and if he gets an innocent scan, he may then make his scan target one of his top town reads to make his scan obvious if he gets NKed. Scum looking for PRs might pick up on read changes like this.

Hmmm while I do see where you are coming from, for the reason alone would the PR not be better to go for a null, unless they were the only person scum reading the person and were sure.

It seems to me that you could easily just adapt your play style to ensure that scum can't tell what you are doing?

That being said I do have some more understanding of your position now.

[bozotheclown]

Seriously, Bozo, walk us through scum Worcej's thought process, if he was indeed unwilling to say if he was town or not.

Since worcej has maintained in past games that he never makes fake claims, he may have tried to avoid making a fake town claim until is was obvious he would keep getting pressured until he made the claim.

[bozotheclown]

Forgive me for being naive but how?
Surely keeping it simple and in a reads list would keep things from being noticed to easily?
If that truly is the case then, your idea may have more validity than I initially thought.

As an example, a cop is likely to scan someone he has publicly scum read, and if he gets an innocent scan, he may then make his scan target one of his top town reads to make his scan obvious if he gets NKed. Scum looking for PRs might pick up on read changes like this.

Hmmm while I do see where you are coming from, for the reason alone would the PR not be better to go for a null, unless they were the only person scum reading the person and were sure.

It seems to me that you could easily just adapt your play style to ensure that scum can't tell what you are doing?

That being said I do have some more understanding of your position now.

A cop will typically try to catch a scum, which is why they will want to scan a top scum read. I suppose a cop could keep his top scum read hidden, but that then makes it harder to be sure of his innocent scans after he gets NKed.

[Nephthys]

@bozo, I see where you are coming from, thanks for the explanation <3

I need to think more on the hypo it seems. That being said, I think brain might be your hardest adversary to overcome in getting unanimous approval.