Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

yes, you were exceptionally sharp from the start of the game, you championed for people who were misvoted and were very loud and pushing for those who flipped mafia.

I called you out for that early on, but with how bo reacted to you I figured you are unlikely his partner. But looking back at that again, and seeing how the end plays out, with the hot potatoes and the couch potato, I wonder, has that all been in preparation for this? Like, was that just big maf-theatre and you had this big plan from the start, bussing your team hard?

Short answer, no

The way I went about it is different, and unlike my hellbussing game, I argued *against* town flips and defended them as well

Its different

Do you believe my town game resembles any of my scum games?

you are very hard to distinguish with your play, if you are mafia or town. You might think otherwise since you know your thoughts, but I don't. No one else does. And I got a very eerie feeling that you had a kind of mask off moment earlier, when you pushed for your idea.

Thinking of that, you had that idea very fast. Did you prepare all that in advance? That would explain a lot

Of course I thought of it all in advance. I’ve been doing so since the start of the last day and night and going over all the couch potato mechanics as well

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

If I am not townread off of what I’ve down this game, then im not sure what I can ever do to be townread. If my range is very high as mafia, then the only way you can read me is pointing out differences in my town and scum game

I dont buy you suddenly became hyper paranoid of me. Its not the town Kak I know.

I’m going to keep voting you, I’m gonna trust my gut

Apologies to dream and you if you are town

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Btw, if I’m mafia I nightkill dream and then vote you. Adding in an extra layer is not smart for me

Its up to you if you wanna throw the potatoes at me or rdr. I hope you make the right decision, but in the end I don’t trust you to be town so maybe it wont even be necessary

[DreamTrawler]

So who does need to add an extra layer?

Mafia Rivera kills me or Will, ties the vote Day 7, kills Kak Night 7, received the Couch Potato from town Kak, and then loses the vote Day 8 - except he could win with the right potato explosions.

Mafia Kak kills me or Will, the remaining one will most likely still be convinced it’s Rivera. Vote gets tied during Day 7, Kak gives Couch Potato to a remaining townie and kills the other at Night 7, then kills off townie 2 by voting on Day 8.

Mafia Will kills me, then ties the vote with Rivera on Day 7. Kak most likely gives Couch to Rivera, Will kills Kak Night 7 and votes out Rivera Day 8.

Mafia Dream kills Will, then either does similar moves to Mafia Will above or just pretends to be convinced by Rivera that it’s Kak and votekills Kak. I guess Will could do that too.

QED the only person that doesn’t have a clear path to victory is Mafia Rivera who is being primarily suspected. Therefore I think it’s still Rivera. The only way we vote Kak here is if Kak is sending the potatoes to Rivera, otherwise there’s no point.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

So who does need to add an extra layer?

Mafia Rivera kills me or Will, ties the vote Day 7, kills Kak Night 7, received the Couch Potato from town Kak, and then loses the vote Day 8 - except he could win with the right potato explosions.

Mafia Kak kills me or Will, the remaining one will most likely still be convinced it’s Rivera. Vote gets tied during Day 7, Kak gives Couch Potato to a remaining townie and kills the other at Night 7, then kills off townie 2 by voting on Day 8.

Mafia Will kills me, then ties the vote with Rivera on Day 7. Kak most likely gives Couch to Rivera, Will kills Kak Night 7 and votes out Rivera Day 8.

Mafia Dream kills Will, then either does similar moves to Mafia Will above or just pretends to be convinced by Rivera that it’s Kak and votekills Kak. I guess Will could do that too.

QED the only person that doesn’t have a clear path to victory is Mafia Rivera who is being primarily suspected. Therefore I think it’s still Rivera. The only way we vote Kak here is if Kak is sending the potatoes to Rivera, otherwise there’s no point.

Kak also has the motive of avoiding an autoloss if rdr explodes. Kak probably assumed if we all lived then we would vote rdr, but assumed wrong. If rdr exploded from potatoes, then kak assumed that he had a chance to survive by preying on your paranoia of me or something

[rdrivera2005]

So who does need to add an extra layer?

Mafia Rivera kills me or Will, ties the vote Day 7, kills Kak Night 7, received the Couch Potato from town Kak, and then loses the vote Day 8 - except he could win with the right potato explosions.

Mafia Kak kills me or Will, the remaining one will most likely still be convinced it’s Rivera. Vote gets tied during Day 7, Kak gives Couch Potato to a remaining townie and kills the other at Night 7, then kills off townie 2 by voting on Day 8.

Mafia Will kills me, then ties the vote with Rivera on Day 7. Kak most likely gives Couch to Rivera, Will kills Kak Night 7 and votes out Rivera Day 8.

Mafia Dream kills Will, then either does similar moves to Mafia Will above or just pretends to be convinced by Rivera that it’s Kak and votekills Kak. I guess Will could do that too.

QED the only person that doesn’t have a clear path to victory is Mafia Rivera who is being primarily suspected. Therefore I think it’s still Rivera. The only way we vote Kak here is if Kak is sending the potatoes to Rivera, otherwise there’s no point.

You are obsessed with me for some reason and making bad assumptions. If I were Mafia my best shot is kill you or Will and hope Kak explodes and send my HPs to the other. There is no point for me to keep one more town alive if I could o ly win by HPs.

And both me and Will explained why it makes sense for Kak to no-Kill.

[rdrivera2005]

Today is my brother birthday so I won't be around at EOD.

[DreamTrawler]

Seems like everyone’s votes are set so I will ##end again

If it’s Kak good job guys, if it’s not then I hope Kaka can throw the Couch to the right person

[Kakarroto]

If I am not townread off of what I’ve down this game, then im not sure what I can ever do to be townread. If my range is very high as mafia, then the only way you can read me is pointing out differences in my town and scum game

I dont buy you suddenly became hyper paranoid of me. Its not the town Kak I know.

I’m going to keep voting you, I’m gonna trust my gut

Apologies to dream and you if you are town

??? what? Then why are you even voting me? We both hat quite the similar reads in the game, and were on the same line of thought for the most of it, the only difference is that you are much more cleaner, especially early. The same happened last game where you townread players for not being here, like you knew their alignment before. And it turned out last game that you were, and I get more and more the feeling you are the last mafia, not RD

and no, apologies not granted if you are town, it is YOUR responsibility to vote correctly mafia out, I can't since I was robbed again of my vote, so if you are truly town, vote RD

[Kakarroto]

Btw, if I’m mafia I nightkill dream and then vote you. Adding in an extra layer is not smart for me

Its up to you if you wanna throw the potatoes at me or rdr. I hope you make the right decision, but in the end I don’t trust you to be town so maybe it wont even be necessary

yeah, I'm feeling more and more I do the right decision here, so no, I'm not gonna change. If RD is mafia, it was YOUR fault for not voting him, keeping voting for me is a mafclaim

and no, in that scenario you described I think you wouldn't vote me in that case, as you always could get the couch potato. There just has to be a tie or a no kill on that day, and then you'd lose the vote the following day if you would. That's probably why you needed that extra layer what you are always talking about, isn't it?

[Kakarroto]

Today is my brother birthday so I won't be around at EOD.

well happy birthday to your brother and have fun

in case I reach you before, in the case you are town, which I more and more getting the feeling with will that way, it would be great to switch to him. But not required as I'm sending the potato to him first

anyway, enjoy your time

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Vote count 7.3

Kakarroto (2): JustAGuyNamedWill rdrivera2005
rdrivera2005 (1): DreamTrawler*
No‑Kill (1): Kakarroto

Kakarroto leads the vote. Just over 20 minutes to go in the phase.

[Kakarroto]

dang, Will just being there, watching and going away. Yeah, pretty sure now it's just Will

at least you'll have a chance of voting him out tomorrow. Guess RD doesn't come back in time to save me. Ah well, good luck tomorrow, hope you can bring it home for us, Dream o7

[Spartaculous]

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[Spartaculous]

Preliminary vote count

Kakarroto (2): JustAGuyNamedWill rdrivera2005
rdrivera2005 (1): DreamTrawler*
No‑Kill (1): Kakarroto

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[Spartaculous]

GM UPDATE

I made myself potato curry today for lunch. It was tasty.

[Spartaculous]

Final vote count

Kakarroto (2): JustAGuyNamedWill rdrivera2005
rdrivera2005 (1): DreamTrawler*
No‑Kill (0): Kakarroto

[Spartaculous]

'Sméagol won't grub for roots and carrotses and - taters. What's taters, precious, eh, what's taters?'

'Po-ta-toes,' said Sam. 'The Gaffer's delight, and rare good ballast for an empty belly. But you won't find any, so you needn't look. But be good Sméagol and fetch me some herbs, and I'll think better of you. What's more, if you turn over a new leaf, and keep it turned, I'll cook you some taters one of these days. I will: fried fish and chips served by S. Gamgee. You couldn't say no to that.' 'Yes, yes we could. Spoiling nice fish, scorching it. Give me fish now, and keep nassty chips!'

'Oh, you're hopeless,' said Sam. 'Go to sleep!”

[Spartaculous]

Anyways:

Kakarroto has died. He was Blight Yam-gami of the mafia!

[Spartaculous]

DreamTrawler has survived. He was Samwise Gamgee of the town!
rdrivera2005 has survived. He was Mr. Potato Head of the town!
JustAGuyNamedWill has survived. He was Dan Quayle of the town!

Town has won!

GAME HAS ENDED

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