Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

##CALL GM

If player x is mafia, and gets voted out, and the remaining townspeople blow up from potatoes the same day, is it a draw?

Yes. More broadly speaking, if, after all day/night kills and potato kills are processed, no players are left alive, it would be a tie.

Hmmmm

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Interesting

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ok so there is a risk we just straight up tie the game

That sucks

[DreamTrawler]

gonna ##end

Don’t feel like we need the whole two days for this

Will check to see what Kaka says but I think there’s a good chance Mafia explodes whether it’s Kaka or Rivera, and then if it’s Rivera hopefully one of us can survive to the next day

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

gonna ##end

Don’t feel like we need the whole two days for this

Will check to see what Kaka says but I think there’s a good chance Mafia explodes whether it’s Kaka or Rivera, and then if it’s Rivera hopefully one of us can survive to the next day

We should first wait until Kak wakes up and confirms they submitted the pass of the Couch Potato and HPs to rdr

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

But yeah, I will end once that happens

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@kak if you *are* mafia, then concede to end the game early
If you arent, then send the potatoes
Either way, I want to end this phase early because we dont need 48 hours to discuss this

[DreamTrawler]

@Rdrivera if we are voting Kak today who do you have your potato set to throw to?

[Kakarroto]

So who passed Bo the SP again?

Mimi->Bozo->Bunny->Mimi->Rivera->Dream->Bunny->Dip->Bo->Dip

Bo sending it back to Dip is a huge red flag. You sending it to Bunny is a minor one.

Anyway, I need to think who I send my HPs tomorrow.

bo flipped mafia, did you already forget that?

[Kakarroto]

Ok so if no one explodes tonight then town can possibly win.

If Mafia explodes town wins.

If town explodes Mafia wins.

Darkest timeline Rivera explodes, isn’t Mafia, and I have to choose between Will and Kaka again.

Likely that won’t happen, since if rdr explodes, then whoever Kak doesn’t nightkill will end up being the deciding vote to kill Kak

this post makes me mega jittery. Have I been wrong and it's actually Will as mafia here?

[Kakarroto]

If I’m mafia I always kill Dream there and then pit rdr and Kak against each other, and then kill kak, subsequently NKing rdr

That is very true, and yet I’m scared I’m getting played.

I have scumread and cased all 3 of the mafia we’ve flipped so far when there was no reason to do so

Bozo wasn’t dying (thank god for the HP blowing up), and I was on to Control V from day 2. I also cased Bo when there was no reason to, after people starting townreading him

yes, you were exceptionally sharp from the start of the game, you championed for people who were misvoted and were very loud and pushing for those who flipped mafia.

I called you out for that early on, but with how bo reacted to you I figured you are unlikely his partner. But looking back at that again, and seeing how the end plays out, with the hot potatoes and the couch potato, I wonder, has that all been in preparation for this? Like, was that just big maf-theatre and you had this big plan from the start, bussing your team hard?

[Kakarroto]

@kak if you *are* mafia, then concede to end the game early
If you arent, then send the potatoes
Either way, I want to end this phase early because we dont need 48 hours to discuss this

uuhh, this post oozes of giddyness and anticipation. This is a post you make when you think you are so close to win a game as mafia. When you think that all goes according to plan and you don't want anyone rethink the status quo.

hmm, maybe you can make that post as town too, but I'm very spooked with your reactions the past day.

I know I'm town, so if we're wrong on RD, then we're probably going to lose if you misvote me, if we don't get lucky with a potato explosion. Will pushing this misvote and calling to send the couch potato to RD could very well be his scheme to win here. I feel we're close of making a huge mistake if we fully follow his plan here.

Gonna throw the couch potato to Will, and RD as second target, and similar my hot potatoes. Not going to risk Will winning in such an underhanded way

also ##vote no-kill

maybe I'm just anxious and see things, but I'm not gonna risk the game after what I've just seen.

[rdrivera2005]

@Rdrivera if we are voting Kak today who do you have your potato set to throw to?

It won't make any difference. If Kak is scum we win if he is town we lose because he will pass CP to me.

Anyway, I entered provisory order to pass to Kak and if he dies to you.

[rdrivera2005]

@kak if you *are* mafia, then concede to end the game early
If you arent, then send the potatoes
Either way, I want to end this phase early because we dont need 48 hours to discuss this

uuhh, this post oozes of giddyness and anticipation. This is a post you make when you think you are so close to win a game as mafia. When you think that all goes according to plan and you don't want anyone rethink the status quo.

hmm, maybe you can make that post as town too, but I'm very spooked with your reactions the past day.

I know I'm town, so if we're wrong on RD, then we're probably going to lose if you misvote me, if we don't get lucky with a potato explosion. Will pushing this misvote and calling to send the couch potato to RD could very well be his scheme to win here. I feel we're close of making a huge mistake if we fully follow his plan here.

Gonna throw the couch potato to Will, and RD as second target, and similar my hot potatoes. Not going to risk Will winning in such an underhanded way

also ##vote no-kill

maybe I'm just anxious and see things, but I'm not gonna risk the game after what I've just seen.

Honestly, I also have doubts but at this point Will and Just are so convinced that it's either me or you that I can't see other outcome for today. And I don’t have the time to dig the thread.

So, if you want to try to convince us, be my guest, I will give you this time before voting end.

[rdrivera2005]

Mimi->Bozo->Bunny->Mimi->Rivera->Dream->Bunny->Dip->Bo->Dip

Bo sending it back to Dip is a huge red flag. You sending it to Bunny is a minor one.

Anyway, I need to think who I send my HPs tomorrow.

bo flipped mafia, did you already forget that?

Sorry for my bad English as usual. It WAS a red flag.

[Kakarroto]

Yeah that usually doesn't work, convincing others of being town and stuff. People usually ignore that. So as far as I see it, as you'll probably decide to misvote me, I then have about a 50/50 shot in throwing the couch potato to the correct one of you and win us the game. Then,

@RD what makes you town? Why shouldn't I throw the couch potato to you?

@Will the same for you, what makes you town? Why should I throw the couch potato to RD instead of you?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Kak

If I was mafia why would I not kill Dream and then kill you the next day?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

You have to understand that me and Dream never make this kill in a million years

And its mechanically our best shot. If me or Dream died, the vote would be between you and rdr anyway. No Killing is just adding an extra layer for me or Dream to hurdle in order to win

@Kak do you think that if I’m town, then this plan is the mechanically best option?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

That is very true, and yet I’m scared I’m getting played.

I have scumread and cased all 3 of the mafia we’ve flipped so far when there was no reason to do so

Bozo wasn’t dying (thank god for the HP blowing up), and I was on to Control V from day 2. I also cased Bo when there was no reason to, after people starting townreading him

yes, you were exceptionally sharp from the start of the game, you championed for people who were misvoted and were very loud and pushing for those who flipped mafia.

I called you out for that early on, but with how bo reacted to you I figured you are unlikely his partner. But looking back at that again, and seeing how the end plays out, with the hot potatoes and the couch potato, I wonder, has that all been in preparation for this? Like, was that just big maf-theatre and you had this big plan from the start, bussing your team hard?

Short answer, no

The way I went about it is different, and unlike my hellbussing game, I argued *against* town flips and defended them as well

Its different

Do you believe my town game resembles any of my scum games?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Okay Kak I know you are paranoid of me. But the game is on the line (unless you’re mafia) because you likely die here

There is some world where my gameplay comes from mafia, sure. But the one where rdr is mafia is *much* more likely

At the end of the day, the decision is up to you. But I urge you to make the smart decision, not the one bred of paranoia and one which has little to back it up