Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[DreamTrawler]

Cos I now think scum is in {Bunny, Chaqa, Dip?, you, yav, rdr}

You don't find Bunny's SP throw to be towny?

As scum it would be a safe place to send. Not bringing anyone else in. As scum you don't want to create 2 townclears do you?

Scum!Bunny would be generating 2 townclears regardless of who he threw it to. Except Bozo. Throwing it to Bozo would have been scummy

[Kakarroto]

Also these wagons are terrible lol

Wtf happened to the votes for Red, Chaqa, Will

I think Kaka and Dip are pretty townie, especially Dip. Seems like a lot of other people think that so why are they two of the leading wagons?

votes for Damo - why?

And Dip is voting Bozo?? Come onnn

who ever is saying Dream is mafia must be taking the wrong meds

[yavuzovic]

I believe I called your post out in real time, but I forget. Either way, the fact that it wasn’t a good case doesn’t make it a call out. It just makes it easier for Will to laugh off, which he didn’t do.

Mimi is on Will and Bunny and I are on Kak. Making both of them wagons puts scum in a tight spot. Feel free to make it so.

Makes sense I guess. Though I think we are letting Damo slip away again

##vote JustAGuyNamedWill

Then you can pin that directly on me because Damo has been leading all day long without much resistance and that’s not how obvscum wagons tend to go.

How would obvscum wagons tend to go? I can totally see damo being scum and now the town is being distracted away. At strongest he was only a 5-voter wagon and Bunny IMMEDIATELY switched back, from that point damo wagon only lost voters.

[Kakarroto]

Red is the obvious choice. Damo should not be a wagon.

I totally agree here. What was the reason for voting damo? Because he's unsure who's mafia? That was it?

you should look at the votes damo makes, that is much more revealing above him

I mean, I find it strange that, of all people, brain is pointing that out, but maybe it's just pocketing?

[Kakarroto]

I just read this again, are you actually trying to convince me that the fact that you aren’t giving any effort AT ALL to find scum is town indicative?

Just because I haven't found anything strong enough to scumread anyone does not imply a lack of effort.

Be careful dismounting that overly tall equine.

I don’t think your read post sans a scumread is indicative of your lack of effort on its own. I find that, in conjunction with the fact that you are not hunting, investigating, or questioning anything - other than your wagon - indicative of a lack of effort. But I also find your confidence in your dogshit play endearing enough to leave it alone for the moment because Dream annoyed me.

##VOTE Dream

The group I am willing to vote in today is Chaqa, damo, Dream, Red, and Will. Conveniently, several of those names are options. Let’s make Dream one too.

from that group, bo picks out the very most town here. That's disturbing. He also voted for damo for that stupid reason. Did brain bus bo there?

[Kakarroto]

Bo is basically running the game however and isnt getting much support from anyone. So if hes a pack mafia leader this is a serious pathetic game from town

Hence id never advocate for bo to die. Ghug biting the dust with a strong townread on bo is a good look for bo as well

and now retracting that bus? Hmmm

[Kakarroto]

Four scum.

Hmmm. This gives me a slight Jamie-brain scumpair feel. I would expect Jamie to berate brain for not reading the set up.

I have learned that berating Brainbomb while he is scumreading me leads to pages of awful, circular, disagreement which are annoying to participate in, and even worse for other people to have to read. Give me credit for trying to be nice some of the time, eh?

yeah, wasn't smart of me, but something just hit me the way he all puts it, like, how can he be so wrong, and trying to turn and twist my stuff

[Kakarroto]

Passing off blame for stuff you did

Be more specific.

I already did, and nobody seemed to care, which makes me even more suspicious!

But I have a birthday thing to go to and will probably miss EOD so I guess I should ##VOTE Chaqa because that’s who I actually want today and he has once again vanished since his wagon vanished.

hmm, Chaqa-bo probably not paired

[Kakarroto]

Kak is being very abrasive this phase.

Calling Yavuzovic "stupid".

Berating Brainbomb for deciding to claim the Couch Potato.

This isn't Kak's usual tone, in my recollection.

yeah, I know, sorry again, I just got too emotional. And brain has a tendency of lightly agitating me, and I know it's just how he is sometimes, but he really hit a spot with his constant twisting of me and how he framed stuff in a bad way that I always do.

And I think I haven't called yavu directly that, just a thing he did. Like, I didn't want to degrade his intelligence or insult him, just point out a wrong thing. Like, I myself do stupid stuff, more often than I want to accept, probably, so I hope it wasn't taken as such.

If anyone was offended in my outburst (or even with other things), I'm sorry, I like playing here and sometimes I take stuff too hard, and normally I can control myself before and self-censor me, but sometimes stuff just slips through. So I really hope that no one takes that stuff personally, because it isn't meant that in any way. Stuff like that more like a disagreement from my side because I can't think (so probably it's more my fault then?) of stuff being correct.

So, please don't feel insulted, and if you do, or did, I deeply apologize and I hope you can forgive me.

[DreamTrawler]

Just because I haven't found anything strong enough to scumread anyone does not imply a lack of effort.

Be careful dismounting that overly tall equine.

I don’t think your read post sans a scumread is indicative of your lack of effort on its own. I find that, in conjunction with the fact that you are not hunting, investigating, or questioning anything - other than your wagon - indicative of a lack of effort. But I also find your confidence in your dogshit play endearing enough to leave it alone for the moment because Dream annoyed me.

##VOTE Dream

The group I am willing to vote in today is Chaqa, damo, Dream, Red, and Will. Conveniently, several of those names are options. Let’s make Dream one too.

from that group, bo picks out the very most town here. That's disturbing. He also voted for damo for that stupid reason. Did brain bus bo there?

Unless I'm misunderstanding the lingo, how can a townie "bus" someone?

[Kakarroto]

Oh yes you have the Couch Potato don't you.
Thanks for the reminder.

Your vote still matters as a lasting indication of your suspicions, however.

I disagree. We will know he had couch potato. We will inspect his reads not his votes on D2. I support brain and all future couch potatoes to vote nokill

Like this post. People in general try to focus too much on votes and not on substance. Vote analysis is best done when it's done holistically and examining how wagons develop, not necessarily where someone's vote ends up at the EOD

true, EoD also have a lot of consolidation, and while you can gain some information on whom people consolidate, it's only limited.

[Kakarroto]

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The blue and purple are very hard to read on Dark Mode btw. The other colors were fine

sorry, but there are also colours that are hard to read on light mode, and the overlap between them isn't too big.

Maybe I should use another way to respond to posts like these, but didn't think of one at the time

[Kakarroto]

Red Neurax in 90 minutes be like:

Editing posts is scummy.

you did literally this exact thing to me

I'm pretty sure Jamie is fully aware of that, and that's the joke (which I find hilarious, btw)

[Kakarroto]

Tinfoil theory.

Bozo and Dip cooked up this plan in scumchat so that sacrificing Dip makes Bozo quasi clear?

if dip is mafia here, I'll eat a broom (figuratively, not literally)

[Kakarroto]

GM POST

Vote count 2.9

damo666 (4): rdrivera2005, Control V, Chaqa, Jamiet99uk
Red Neurax (3): DreamTrawler, DiplomacyandWarfare, damo666
Kakarroto (2): JustAGuyNamedWill, miminena
DiplomacyandWarfare (2): bozotheclown, yavuzovic
brainbomb (2): BunnyGo* Kakarroto*
Chaqa (1): bo_sox48
No‑Kill (1): brainbomb

damo666 would look pretty good wrapped in newsprint with some fish.

Red Neurax must vote. 30 minutes to go

yeah, that looks pretty bad

four people on damo for practically nothing

two people on practically conf-town dip

I guess I can give a pass on Will and mimi for voting me, but they are still wrong

bo on a single vanity wagon? What the heck?

at least Dream and dip show a pretty good vote, damo more or less, but don't know how much it's just self preserving. He doesn't choose dip or me at least, so even when he doesn't vote brain, it's not bad

[Kakarroto]

Why are both Brainbomb voters endvoting?

well, mine was for emphasize

Bunny's a bit too, but maybe more of some other thing, he said he won't change since he's missing EoD, so kinda emphasize, I guess?

[Kakarroto]

GM POST

Vote count 2.10 - final one of the day

damo666 (4) rdrivera2005 Control V Chaqa Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto (2) JustAGuyNamedWill miminena
DiplomacyandWarfare (2) bozotheclown yavuzovic
brainbomb (2) BunnyGo* Kakarroto*
Red Neurax (2) DreamTrawler DiplomacyandWarfare
Chaqa (1) bo_sox48
No‑Kill (1) brainbomb
Jamiet99uk (1) damo666

damo666 is on the menu.

Red Neurax must vote.

15 minutes or so to go.

yeah, I do not believe that maf-damo switches away to a single wagon to make it a two-vote difference to any other wagon when he is in the lead

dip Dream damo are town

[Kakarroto]

Im happy with kak/brain/chaqa/red wagons

I’d rather not vote damo

Well Kak ain't gonna fly

something something Red Bull is an Austrian company

[Kakarroto]

shortly here to look how the vote is and weigh in if necessary.

Hows it looking right now? Hope you aren't considering dip?

This is what scum kak does btw

everything I do is mafia to you.

you even put down that my flavour post I wrote before I got my role PM is. You are twisting anything to fit that propaganda of yours

[Kakarroto]

Kak isnt town!!!!!!
Kak isnt town!!!!!!
Kak isnt town!!!!!!
Kak isnt town!!!!!!

DESTROY

ok Ghandi


For those who don't know, that is supposed to be a CIV joke