Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

And also if damo is scum I will consider Rivera very strongly town

Why?

[yavuzovic]

I don’t believe scum saved damo. Town saved damo, and unfortunately ended up on another townie. An stagnant VC like the one yesterday really indicates scum didnt need to do anything, and I think it’s indicative of TvT

I Don't think the VC was stagnant on Damo. I'm not sure if no wolves saving Damo sounds at all likely either.

It was not stagnant on damo. It was stagnant between damo and red. Scum would have moved a lot more and tehre woulda been more chaos

I’m not saying *no* wolves were involved, I’m saying wolves had no real stake

There were equally potential wagons until the last hour. If I'm right and damo is scum, other scums just need to develop one of the wagons against him. It doesn't matter if its stagnant between them in the last hour, it matters to have all hands in the deck to push the town wagon.

And also if damo is scum I will consider Rivera very strongly town

Why?

Normally it is a pretty nice spot to end the day as mafia, a wagon of 67% confirmed towns. But rivera voted pretty early and didn't leave when damo was the top wagon. If damo is indeed scum, this doesn't confirm Rivera is town but pretty nice work he did.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

##VOTE BOZO i forget if i was already voting him

Doesnt rly matter tho

[miminena]

##VOTE KAK

how do you think this fits in if bb was indeed the nk with a rotten potato? in my mind you/kak/bo/ctrl should be saved for later since you're slightly cleared (not entirely but enough that i'd prefer to not kill in that pool today)

[miminena]

Why are people not voting obvscumDip?

i still scum read you slightly more than dip but it is weird that he's getting a good bit of shade but not many votes

[miminena]

I think the Damo wagon is towny but Dream/Yazu might contain one still.

Damo/Bozo might make sense if it's pure though tbh as the gamestate feels weird with this many wolves.

dream is likely scum in a damo/dw t/t world, and also likely in a damo scum world imo. he's been pushing in such a way to be voting damo but still shading dw which could either be scum trying to get bus credit but still having an escape valve if it seems hopeful that damo can be saved, or scum trying to keep the wagons t/t. i still think damo is better to resolve today though.

tentative towncore atm is me, rivera, bozo, ctrl, kak, bo, and will. the first four are strong town reads and the last four are more likely town than not given the bb flip. if i had to distill it it would be me, rivera, bozo, and ctrl, with bozo and ctrl potentially scum but easier to solve w/ a flip

[DreamTrawler]

I think the Damo wagon is towny but Dream/Yazu might contain one still.

Damo/Bozo might make sense if it's pure though tbh as the gamestate feels weird with this many wolves.

dream is likely scum in a damo/dw t/t world, and also likely in a damo scum world imo. he's been pushing in such a way to be voting damo but still shading dw which could either be scum trying to get bus credit but still having an escape valve if it seems hopeful that damo can be saved, or scum trying to keep the wagons t/t. i still think damo is better to resolve today though.

tentative towncore atm is me, rivera, bozo, ctrl, kak, bo, and will. the first four are strong town reads and the last four are more likely town than not given the bb flip. if i had to distill it it would be me, rivera, bozo, and ctrl, with bozo and ctrl potentially scum but easier to solve w/ a flip

Why am I paired with Damo? Because I questioned the Damo wagon yesterday?

And if I'm so likely to be scum regardless of Damo's alignment why not vote me?

[miminena]

I don’t believe scum saved damo. Town saved damo, and unfortunately ended up on another townie. An stagnant VC like the one yesterday really indicates scum didnt need to do anything, and I think it’s indicative of TvT

I Don't think the VC was stagnant on Damo. I'm not sure if no wolves saving Damo sounds at all likely either.

It was not stagnant on damo. It was stagnant between damo and red. Scum would have moved a lot more and tehre woulda been more chaos

I’m not saying *no* wolves were involved, I’m saying wolves had no real stake

the damo wagon actually didn't have much potential in the first place so saving him if he's scum wasn't really necessary

i do think that there was scum on red or else the team is all encapsulated within bo/bunny/bozo/will/rivera which i find very unlikely but i also agree that damo wasn't necessarily saved

[DreamTrawler]

Really wish Bunny would tell us who the 4th SP holder is. Or they could tell us themselves.

[miminena]

I think the Damo wagon is towny but Dream/Yazu might contain one still.

Damo/Bozo might make sense if it's pure though tbh as the gamestate feels weird with this many wolves.

dream is likely scum in a damo/dw t/t world, and also likely in a damo scum world imo. he's been pushing in such a way to be voting damo but still shading dw which could either be scum trying to get bus credit but still having an escape valve if it seems hopeful that damo can be saved, or scum trying to keep the wagons t/t. i still think damo is better to resolve today though.

tentative towncore atm is me, rivera, bozo, ctrl, kak, bo, and will. the first four are strong town reads and the last four are more likely town than not given the bb flip. if i had to distill it it would be me, rivera, bozo, and ctrl, with bozo and ctrl potentially scum but easier to solve w/ a flip

Why am I paired with Damo? Because I questioned the Damo wagon yesterday?

And if I'm so likely to be scum regardless of Damo's alignment why not vote me?

i explained in the post but to restate, you started the day shading dw with damo but switched very quickly to damo when he started to get pressure. thus in a world where you two are paired you are trying to get bus credit while still pushing his worldview

as to why i want to flip damo over you, flipping damo is more conducive to helping resolve dw and bozo, who are both rather enigmatic this game. you, on the other hand, don't really help to resolve that much from what i've seen

[miminena]

Really wish Bunny would tell us who the 4th SP holder is. Or they could tell us themselves.

bunny said he will catch up in 24 hours from when he made the post, around 1 and a half hours from now

[miminena]

@control v

could you condense your thoughts on everyone? you're one of the people i trust the most atm so i would like to know your general worldview

[miminena]

@control v

could you condense your thoughts on everyone? you're one of the people i trust the most atm so i would like to know your general worldview

would also appreciate this from rivera and bozo

[DreamTrawler]

dream is likely scum in a damo/dw t/t world, and also likely in a damo scum world imo. he's been pushing in such a way to be voting damo but still shading dw which could either be scum trying to get bus credit but still having an escape valve if it seems hopeful that damo can be saved, or scum trying to keep the wagons t/t. i still think damo is better to resolve today though.

tentative towncore atm is me, rivera, bozo, ctrl, kak, bo, and will. the first four are strong town reads and the last four are more likely town than not given the bb flip. if i had to distill it it would be me, rivera, bozo, and ctrl, with bozo and ctrl potentially scum but easier to solve w/ a flip

Why am I paired with Damo? Because I questioned the Damo wagon yesterday?

And if I'm so likely to be scum regardless of Damo's alignment why not vote me?

i explained in the post but to restate, you started the day shading dw with damo but switched very quickly to damo when he started to get pressure. thus in a world where you two are paired you are trying to get bus credit while still pushing his worldview

as to why i want to flip damo over you, flipping damo is more conducive to helping resolve dw and bozo, who are both rather enigmatic this game. you, on the other hand, don't really help to resolve that much from what i've seen

I could easily have unvoted instead of voting Damo, Dip even asked me to do so after explaining. But it seems like you're strongly convinced so I'll drop it for now.

[miminena]

Why am I paired with Damo? Because I questioned the Damo wagon yesterday?

And if I'm so likely to be scum regardless of Damo's alignment why not vote me?

i explained in the post but to restate, you started the day shading dw with damo but switched very quickly to damo when he started to get pressure. thus in a world where you two are paired you are trying to get bus credit while still pushing his worldview

as to why i want to flip damo over you, flipping damo is more conducive to helping resolve dw and bozo, who are both rather enigmatic this game. you, on the other hand, don't really help to resolve that much from what i've seen

I could easily have unvoted instead of voting Damo, Dip even asked me to do so after explaining. But it seems like you're strongly convinced so I'll drop it for now.

this is precisely why i read you as paired with damo. i think you're trying to ride on bus credit since earlier when you did a similar flip-flop vote on worcej, who has now flipped town, you unvoted. when it comes down to it though 90% of the time i'm voting damo or dw today, most likely sticking on damo

[DreamTrawler]

So if Damo flips town, what does that mean for me?

[miminena]

dt if you had to give a solve rn what would it be?

[miminena]

So if Damo flips town, what does that mean for me?

also potentially scum but i would have to re-eval my worldview in that case

[DreamTrawler]

dt if you had to give a solve rn what would it be?

1. Damo
2. Will
3. Control V or rdrivera maybe
4. ??? Kakarroto? Bunny? Yavuz? Bozo?

The last phase really upended all my reads besides that you are town. I was strongly townreading Bozo until now.

[Control V]

@control v

could you condense your thoughts on everyone? you're one of the people i trust the most atm so i would like to know your general worldview

My worldview isn't completely stable but Dip is probably town off something Bozo said, Damo feels not town, gth Will appears to be confbiased on Damo being town.

You are probably town. Yavu seems towny today. Bunny felt towny early in the game but I can't be confident without them posting more.

Dream also has gotten a lot better imo but I could be recency biased.

The rest Is PoE gth.