Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[bozotheclown]

Dream is moving ever so slightly up my readslist. Still not out of the woods but looking mildly better

I’m going to move rdr out of my townreads because I put him there and haven’t found anything particularly towny from him since

potential pocketing of DreamTrawler

[bozotheclown]

Yes 100% yes

Okay if I choose to believe you what was he doing with the potato claim?

I still have no idea but it was incredibly towny. Mafia dip would never try something (and ig still trying something) like that and would coast instead

With the theory that Just is mafia and DiplomacyandWarfare is town, Just seems to not only be pocketing DiplomacyandWarfare, but positioning himself to look "correct" about DiplomacyandWarfare if DiplomacyandWarfare gets DKed.

##VOTE Just

[yavuzovic]

Undesirable posts by bozo: I don't like how bozo is reading the game in the last page. He isn't looking for clues to find the scum, but rather looking for clues to accuse Just. Mafia tunnelling? I doubt that Just is town but I don't like how focused bozo is rn.

[bozotheclown]

I gave my two hot potatoes away to Will and Rivera.

I have not had anything but hot potatoes this game.

Who did you pass your 2 N1 HPs to?

[bozotheclown]

Undesirable posts by bozo: I don't like how bozo is reading the game in the last page. He isn't looking for clues to find the scum, but rather looking for clues to accuse Just. Mafia tunnelling? I doubt that Just is town but I don't like how focused bozo is rn.

I was trying to provide examples of why I suspect Just.

[yavuzovic]

Undesirable posts by bozo: I don't like how bozo is reading the game in the last page. He isn't looking for clues to find the scum, but rather looking for clues to accuse Just. Mafia tunnelling? I doubt that Just is town but I don't like how focused bozo is rn.

I was trying to provide examples of why I suspect Just.

Whom else do you suspect?

[bozotheclown]

My accurate potato information is as follows:

d1: zero potatoes
n1: one hot potato, thrown to JAMIET99UK
d2: zero potatoes
n2: one hot potato, thrown to YAVUZOVIC

Why did you throw a potato to me specifically?

For tracking accuracy, he didn't throw me a hot potato. I don't have a hot potato. I was trying to make him talk about his lie before I saw that he was already caught.

Did you have an HP N2? DiplomacyandWarfare later said this:

I would be happy to tell most of the people here the truth. I will not, however, be telling you the truth.

could you at least make this clear, since it's very helpful to a solve: did you have a hot potato on d2, and if so who did you pass it to?

...fine, I can give you that piece of information
I had one hot potato d2. I passed it to yavuzovic.

[yavuzovic]

Why did you throw a potato to me specifically?

For tracking accuracy, he didn't throw me a hot potato. I don't have a hot potato. I was trying to make him talk about his lie before I saw that he was already caught.

Did you have an HP N2? DiplomacyandWarfare later said this:

could you at least make this clear, since it's very helpful to a solve: did you have a hot potato on d2, and if so who did you pass it to?

...fine, I can give you that piece of information
I had one hot potato d2. I passed it to yavuzovic.

I had zero potato during D1, N1, D2 and N2. For D3, I will keep this information hidden until I'm convinced otherwise. So the above claim is incorrect.

[bozotheclown]

Undesirable posts by bozo: I don't like how bozo is reading the game in the last page. He isn't looking for clues to find the scum, but rather looking for clues to accuse Just. Mafia tunnelling? I doubt that Just is town but I don't like how focused bozo is rn.

I was trying to provide examples of why I suspect Just.

Whom else do you suspect?

I still suspect DiplomacyandWarfare, although it seems unlikely he is mafia with Just. By POE I think BunnyGo, Chaqa, Control V, and rdrivera are reasonable scum candidates.

[bozotheclown]

For tracking accuracy, he didn't throw me a hot potato. I don't have a hot potato. I was trying to make him talk about his lie before I saw that he was already caught.

Did you have an HP N2? DiplomacyandWarfare later said this:

...fine, I can give you that piece of information
I had one hot potato d2. I passed it to yavuzovic.

I had zero potato during D1, N1, D2 and N2. For D3, I will keep this information hidden until I'm convinced otherwise. So the above claim is incorrect.

Why do you think DiplomacyandWarfare has now twice falsely claimed to have passed you an HP?

[bozotheclown]

Dip you’re sorely mistake ifyou think I’m gonna try and figure out your real plan I’m lowkey too lazy

Who do you think was the NK? I personally think it was Jamie. What conclusions if any did you draw from it?

can someone please explain to me why jamie being killed and bb exploding is more likely than bb just having told the truth and was targeted by scum to get two players out? it feels well within the idea of him being prone to fakeclaim that he would honestly claim to have the rotten potato but lie about who he was targeting to try to bait scum

I think you could be correct about what happened, Jamie said he had the RP D2, and that he had 1 HP N2, so someone would have received the RP from him N2, brainbomb did not say who he passed he D2 HP to, and no one else has claimed to pass a D2 HP to Jamie. However, there are 2 unaccounted for D2 HPs D2, so someone else could have taken the RP from Jamie, and brainbomb and Jamie both had HPs N2, so it is also possible one was PKed.

[damo666]

Confusion arises due to lack of information. Revealing spud info is towny. Not revealing or lying about it is scummy.

Fwiw I now think brain gave Jamie a HP and received the RP in return and he was NKd by scum (to frame his scumreads) and ironically he had J as his RP nomination. It would make sense to be consistent with passing an HP and RP nomination.

[damo666]

I do have the rotten potato

So mafia heres your chance

If my reads are that terrible, id take will, kak, bo or control v out with me

Fire away

This would be typical of bb if he did have the RP, not mention his true nomination Jamie.

Looks good for Will, Kak, bo, CV.

[bozotheclown]

D1:
BunnyGo: HP, Chaqa
Chaqa: HP, Jamie
DreamTrawler: HP, Control V
ghug: HP, ?
Jamie: HP, Chaqa
Kakarroto: CP, brainbomb
miminena: SP, bozo
Red Neurax: HP, damo

N1:
bozo: SP, BunnyGo
brainbomb: CP
Chaqa: 2 HPs
Control V: 1 HP, miminena
damo: 1 HP, random player
Jamie: 2 HPs, brainbomb, DiplomacyandWarfare

D2:
brainbomb: CP, 1 HP
BunnyGo: SP
DiplomacyandWarfare: 1 HP
Jamie: RP, 1 HP
Just: 2 HPs, brainbomb
miminena: 1 HP, Chaqa

N2:
Chaqa: 2 HPs, Just, rdrivera
Jamie: 1 HP
Just: CP
rdrivera: 1 HP, damo

This is the information I have seen so far. I have removed all DiplomacyandWarfare claims because they have been proven to be unreliable. DiplomacyandWarfare having an HP D2 is based on Jamie saying he passed him one. There is now 1 HP unclaimed for D1, N1, and D2.

[damo666]

@bozo sorry to be a nuisance but probably value to also list zero potato claimants.

[damo666]

I currently have 2 HPs so I think it likely I got Jamie's D2 HP

[bozotheclown]

@bozo sorry to be a nuisance but probably value to also list zero potato claimants.

Yes, I dropped it for phases I thought we had all HPs accounted for, I will add it back when I get a chance.

[bozotheclown]

I currently have 2 HPs so I think it likely I got Jamie's D2 HP

Do you mean his N2 HP?

[bozotheclown]

@bozo sorry to be a nuisance but probably value to also list zero potato claimants.

Yes, I dropped it for phases I thought we had all HPs accounted for, I will add it back when I get a chance.

It is possible that DiplomacyandWarfare had all the missing HPs, though.

[damo666]

I currently have 2 HPs so I think it likely I got Jamie's D2 HP

Do you mean his N2 HP?

Yes, sorry