Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[damo666]

First, is there no clear town motivation for me loudly claiming to have an important plan yesterday, when I was a wagon and red had called me out on throwing him a potato?
Second, I was already caught lying once, and even you didn't heavily push me after that. What's changed this time? Are you simply more certain you can miskill me?

So are you now saying that the entire plan thing was just to avoid the dk?

That avoiding dying was part of it? Yes, absolutely.
That avoiding dying was all of it? No, not quite.
also, you seem very determined to avoid answering questions along the lines of #2

What's changed? You failed to post EON as promised. You've been caught out lying a SECOND time. Am I more certain I can mk you? No, I don't know your alignment. However as we stand you seem as good a kill as any.

Although tbf this could be a stupid TvT argument scum are enjoying watching.

[damo666]

Bo Chaqa CV Will Kak yet to post D3. At least 2 scum in there.

I would suggest at least one scum in there

Obviously I don't disagree!

[DreamTrawler]

I had the sweet potato day 2. I made a brilliant pass. The best pass. What a pass.

Sorry I’m not around much. Currently stepping out from second Seder but will catch up in 24 hours

Would love to know where to!

[Chaqa]

I gave my two hot potatoes away to Will and Rivera.

I have not had anything but hot potatoes this game.

[DreamTrawler]

I think starting this round we need to start mass-potatoing people. At EoD there will be 3-4 active potatoes.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

This is obviously too llittle too late but I just quickly skimmed the night posts, and I was kind of coming around to Brain being town due to his obsession with my alignment

I was going to come into this day mildly townreading brain and mostly ignoring him so I could focus on other slots. I apologize to the town for getting caught up in defense of myself rather than trying to solve the game

Kak and Mimi look ironically better if Brain was killed by the mafia (I believe it was too obvious a kill for Mimi/Kak to make. However Brain claimed to get a bajillion potatoes (2 of which were from me), so I am leaning toward Jamie being NKed.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Dip having this elaborate unnecessary plan is so uber townie from him and I won’t reeval that for at least a day or two

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

So are you now saying that the entire plan thing was just to avoid the dk?

That avoiding dying was part of it? Yes, absolutely.
That avoiding dying was all of it? No, not quite.
also, you seem very determined to avoid answering questions along the lines of #2

What's changed? You failed to post EON as promised. You've been caught out lying a SECOND time. Am I more certain I can mk you? No, I don't know your alignment. However as we stand you seem as good a kill as any.

Although tbf this could be a stupid TvT argument scum are enjoying watching.

actually, I didn't lie. I even softed that I was decei-
(checks bot for pages for quotes)
(facepalm)
actually, I unintentionally lied. What I was trying to do is claim that the information was in the 'great plan', and that I was going to reveal the 'great and esoteric plan' (aka fake plan) at EoN (note that I missed EoN because I fucking missed EoN, this was not part of any of the fake plans, nor the real one), and then I could point out that I had softed the difference between these two plans
and then I said the wrong things about each of them:

...wow
that's on red then
the great plan shall be revealed at the End of the Night

nobody is going to night kill me when I am going to end up dead, either from the hot potatoes I am holding or from the daykill tomorrow.
All it would accomplish is maybe destroying my potato information, which I softed anyways

I doubt you'll be the DK tomorrow. Depends on what you tell us at EON about your grand plan I guess.

You doubt I will be the day-kill because you have not seen the Great and Esoteric Plan
and also because you were expecting red neurax to flip town, unlike me

technically I could fix this line of reasoning by saying that revealing the Great and Esoteric plan has drawn suspicion to me, but I think the version of the plan that I revealed already outted that this was playing scum to kill me, and also because that particular lie would not be worth it in terms of value added in not getting me killed vs confusion and pointless arguments about what I had vs had not said
also, I am like 90% sure I haven't lied yet in this post and I don't feel like ruining it

I am now going to post this because I believe revealing this will show that I am trying to not only survive, but win this for the town as well
definitely that
I definitely don't just not want to delete this post after spending several minutes writing it

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Dip having this elaborate unnecessary plan is so uber townie from him and I won’t reeval that for at least a day or two

try again. You may have found one of the false plans I've been softing, but I severely doubt anyone, including jamie, ever figured out my real plan.

[DreamTrawler]

So, can someone fill me in on what scum!Dip is normally like?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Dip you’re sorely mistake ifyou think I’m gonna try and figure out your real plan I’m lowkey too lazy

Who do you think was the NK? I personally think it was Jamie. What conclusions if any did you draw from it?

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

So, can someone fill me in on what scum!Dip is normally like?

I hate bussing, if that's relevant to whatever potato cuisine you're cooking up

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

So, can someone fill me in on what scum!Dip is normally like?

Reactive and not proactive

So basically the antithesis to what is happening right here

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Dip as town will go

“Wow Jamie is mafia for this beacuse A, B, C, and D”

Dip as scum will see a post saying “Jamie is scum for A, B, C, and D” and respond with “yeah I agree” as his read

Dip has unique and interesting ideas as town, and as mafia he is much more sheepish

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Dip you’re sorely mistake ifyou think I’m gonna try and figure out your real plan I’m lowkey too lazy

Who do you think was the NK? I personally think it was Jamie. What conclusions if any did you draw from it?

(a) Someone is worried about jamie's d2 claim to know what the hell I was doing (he probably guessed the Esoteric Plan)
(b) Respect kill / fear kill / kill of an active player
(c) one of jamie's scumreads killing jamie?

b and c could also apply for brainbomb

ima go check who those two scumread

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Dream is moving ever so slightly up my readslist. Still not out of the woods but looking mildly better

I’m going to move rdr out of my townreads because I put him there and haven’t found anything particularly towny from him since

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

@bozo
you should stop pretending not to be online (you posted one time in the middle of this argument), and say the following:

Why is damo the main wagon instead of dip when dip has been blatantly lying?
%%vote diplomacyandpotatoes

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Dream is moving ever so slightly up my readslist. Still not out of the woods but looking mildly better

I’m going to move rdr out of my townreads because I put him there and haven’t found anything particularly towny from him since

good catch
@rdr
do something
preferably not vote me, but who am I to judge?
I'll just probably write a fake plan claiming the entire thing was motivated by a scumread on you and post it at EoN3 if you do vote me.

[damo666]

I think starting this round we need to start mass-potatoing people. At EoD there will be 3-4 active potatoes.

Potatoes become active at night. There are currently only 2 active HPs (or 1 if one exploded last night).

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I think starting this round we need to start mass-potatoing people. At EoD there will be 3-4 active potatoes.

Potatoes become active at night. There are currently only 2 active HPs (or 1 if one exploded last night).

there were 2 active HPs
50% chance exactly one explodes (barring sweet potato and whatever)
how does that compare to the chance the rotten potato activated?
wait
didn't jamie claim to have had the rotten potato?