Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[miminena]

i doubt though that yesterday's main wagons (will, kak, dw, damo) are all town esp since red flipped town

to elaborate there was a lot of suspicious movement around that wagon that could be intention to save a mafia member. bb/worcej could also be implicated on second thought, but i think will/kak/damo are more likely than dw/bb

purely mechanically though with the assumption that red was pushed to save a scum kak and bb seem the worst, since the main damo/red pushes that went into eod started around the time that kak and bb were peaked. this also looks good for damo imo, since the push on him started around the same time as the one on red and they were pushed in parallel for a while, so the red wagon to save damo doesn't make as much sense to me as the others

[brainbomb]

I think you have alot of faith in the idea that any of the wagons were scum. I do not have any such faith. The kak push was mostly kept alive by you and will - who didnt clamor for why it was kak

In fact will spent all his energy lurking or claiming im mafia and never explained why kak was

[brainbomb]

Damo posts near end of day arent great. The rest of what hes done was okay I suppose.

[miminena]

I think you have alot of faith in the idea that any of the wagons were scum. I do not have any such faith. The kak push was mostly kept alive by you and will - who didnt clamor for why it was kak

In fact will spent all his energy lurking or claiming im mafia and never explained why kak was

yeah i'm trying to figure stuff out here though so i'm working off assumptions. even if you disagree i think it's reasonable for me to think that there was scum within the wagons

[brainbomb]

Its very reasonable for you to think that. This is true.

[DreamTrawler]

The last time I said this Control V latched onto it as a way to say me and Damo are paired, but I’ll ask again - what even was the rationale behind the Damo wagon?

[Jamiet99uk]

I think you have alot of faith in the idea that any of the wagons were scum. I do not have any such faith. The kak push was mostly kept alive by you and will - who didnt clamor for why it was kak

In fact will spent all his energy lurking or claiming im mafia and never explained why kak was

Someone else was very strongly pushing for Kak.

Can anyone remember who it was....?

OH YEAH I remember! It was this guy:

Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak

shortly here to look how the vote is and weigh in if necessary.

Hows it looking right now? Hope you aren't considering dip?

This is what scum kak does btw

Kill the kak

Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kaK
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak

Scum kak pretends to be offline and waits to end of days to pop in

He doesnt do it as town
He lingers he watches from shadows

He shows up and gets away with it

This must die

Do not let kak live

Now Brainbomb seems to suggest he does not think Kak was scum, and is associating the Kak wagon with Mimi and Will, while distancing himself from it (by saying that they were pushing Kak, and not mentioning how hard he was doing that exact thing himself).

Hmmmm.

[miminena]

The last time I said this Control V latched onto it as a way to say me and Damo are paired, but I’ll ask again - what even was the rationale behind the Damo wagon?

my vote was mostly bc he seemed somewhat implicated from the ghug kill, and i just forgot to move off until way too close to eod

rdr just voted there without reasoning. not necessarily scummy but it shows that the wagon at 2 people was very weak so i find it interesting that it took off

bo and ctrl seemed to not like his reads list (#1652)

everyone else seemed to more or less be bandwagoning

i might be accidentally misrepping people here so obvioulsy trust their accounts over mine

[brainbomb]

I think you have alot of faith in the idea that any of the wagons were scum. I do not have any such faith. The kak push was mostly kept alive by you and will - who didnt clamor for why it was kak

In fact will spent all his energy lurking or claiming im mafia and never explained why kak was

Someone else was very strongly pushing for Kak.

Can anyone remember who it was....?

OH YEAH I remember! It was this guy:

Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak

shortly here to look how the vote is and weigh in if necessary.

Hows it looking right now? Hope you aren't considering dip?

This is what scum kak does btw

Kill the kak

Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kaK
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak

Scum kak pretends to be offline and waits to end of days to pop in

He doesnt do it as town
He lingers he watches from shadows

He shows up and gets away with it

This must die

Do not let kak live

Now Brainbomb seems to suggest he does not think Kak was scum, and is associating the Kak wagon with Mimi and Will, while distancing himself from it (by saying that they were pushing Kak, and not mentioning how hard he was doing that exact thing himself).

Hmmmm.

No I still think hes scum.

[bozotheclown]

I know a number of players said they had HPs during D2, but I am not sure if all of those were real claims, so I would like to request everyone state the number of HPs they had on D2, and the players who had HPs on N1, state who they passed them to.

Here are the claimed N1 HPs:
Chaqa: 2 HPs
Control V: 1 HP
damo: 1 HP
DiplomacyandWarfare: 1 HP
Jamie: 2 HPs

I did not have any HPs D2. I will state who I passed the N1 SP before N2 is over. Anyone holding a N1 HP can wait until EON to say who they passed it to if they prefer, although I don't think it matters much for the HPs. The information could have some implications for the CP, though.

The info I provided was accurate.

Did you say who you passed your 2 N1 HPs to?

[brainbomb]

Its pretty distorted to imply I wasnt voting kak there

Theres a very good reason I wasnt voting kak

[miminena]

I think you have alot of faith in the idea that any of the wagons were scum. I do not have any such faith. The kak push was mostly kept alive by you and will - who didnt clamor for why it was kak

In fact will spent all his energy lurking or claiming im mafia and never explained why kak was

Someone else was very strongly pushing for Kak.

Can anyone remember who it was....?

OH YEAH I remember! It was this guy:

Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak

This is what scum kak does btw

Kill the kak

Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kaK
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak
Vote kak

Scum kak pretends to be offline and waits to end of days to pop in

He doesnt do it as town
He lingers he watches from shadows

He shows up and gets away with it

This must die

Do not let kak live

Now Brainbomb seems to suggest he does not think Kak was scum, and is associating the Kak wagon with Mimi and Will, while distancing himself from it (by saying that they were pushing Kak, and not mentioning how hard he was doing that exact thing himself).

Hmmmm.

No I still think hes scum.

wait if you think he's scum then why do you not have faith in there having been a scum wagon?

[Jamiet99uk]

<examples of Brainbomb pushing Kak at EoD2>

No I still think hes scum.

Then why did you say Mimi and Will were mostly the people pushing Kak when actually you yourself were probably the loudest voice?

[Jamiet99uk]

Its pretty distorted to imply I wasnt voting kak there

Theres a very good reason I wasnt voting kak

I didn't say "voting", I said "pushing". You were pushing Kak hard and loudly encouraging votes on him as I just showed.

I know you claim your vote didn't count, which is what you are now referring to. But you were still a loud "vote for Kak" voice.

[brainbomb]

Meh you both have fair points. I was debating on if id just hard tunneled kak or if there was something authentically evil about him

[Jamiet99uk]

No I still think hes scum.

wait if you think he's scum then why do you not have faith in there having been a scum wagon?

This is a *great* question.

[brainbomb]

I lack faith in thinking there was a scum wagon because I lack faith this town and its occupants were playing well enough to have done so. Self included

[bozotheclown]

I know a number of players said they had HPs during D2, but I am not sure if all of those were real claims, so I would like to request everyone state the number of HPs they had on D2, and the players who had HPs on N1, state who they passed them to.

Here are the claimed N1 HPs:
Chaqa: 2 HPs
Control V: 1 HP
damo: 1 HP
DiplomacyandWarfare: 1 HP
Jamie: 2 HPs

I did not have any HPs D2. I will state who I passed the N1 SP before N2 is over. Anyone holding a N1 HP can wait until EON to say who they passed it to if they prefer, although I don't think it matters much for the HPs. The information could have some implications for the CP, though.

I did not have any potatoes during D2, I had them during Night 1.

I do have two hot potatoes again now.

Are you going to provide who you passed your 2 N1 HPs to?

[Jamiet99uk]

I lack faith in thinking there was a scum wagon because I lack faith this town and its occupants were playing well enough to have done so. Self included

So you don't think any of the wagons were scum, but you do think one of them was.

[brainbomb]

I lack faith in thinking there was a scum wagon because I lack faith this town and its occupants were playing well enough to have done so. Self included

So you don't think any of the wagons were scum, but you do think one of them was.

I dont know what I think