Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[bo_sox48]

Several wagons for town = high likelihood that mafia has to save or bus someone

[brainbomb]

Jamie can you give me a few hard fast rules you have for finding and identifying scum

What are three things that just make you suspect someone

[Jamiet99uk]

Bozo, you have two choices:
(a) continue on me. You have now successfully outted yourself as maf shitpushing me and as soon as I manage to convince everyone else you are lying, you will die. You will also receive a hot potato
(b) go shitpush someone else. You might survive a few days longer this way. I'll probably move my vote and throw the potato at someone else.

"Shitpush" is an amusing term.

[Jamiet99uk]

I dont even know how many scum are in this game and I assume its 4 based on the setup was 18 right?

So yea a number of jamie-bo-mimi-red-dream-kak-will arent mafia here

Four scum.

[damo666]

Look @Dip&War: Brainbomb is using code to communicate with his team-mates! If you can work out what the code "Pecan 62" means, you can solve the game.

ADCOCK PECANS is an anagram of scan code pack, surely a signal!

and 62 in base 5 is 222 - spooky

[bo_sox48]

Dip is tinfoily, ostrich is Kak, you are the other one lol

what the hell is tinfoil?

Or, more literally:

Aluminium foil (sometimes called "tin foil") is aluminium prepared in thin metal leaves. The foil is pliable and can be readily bent or wrapped around objects. Thin foils are fragile and are sometimes laminated with other materials such as plastics or paper to make them stronger and more useful.

Approximately 75% of aluminium foil is used for packaging of foods, cosmetics, and chemical products, and 25% is used for industrial applications (e.g., thermal insulation, electrical cables, and electronics).[2] It can be easily recycled.

Aluminium foil supplanted tin foil in the mid 20th century. In the United Kingdom and United States it is often informally called "tin foil", just as steel cans are often still called "tin cans". Metallised films are sometimes mistaken for aluminium foil, but are actually polymer films coated with a thin layer of aluminium.

I was watching an old episode of top gear last night and James kept saying aluminium and it wad hilarious

[bozotheclown]

so, let me see:

• brainbomb replaced worcej

• there are still only two votes on red

• chaqa is a wagon for decent reasons

• red neurax is still talking about having 'plans' instead of actually giving reads

• other than 'control V kinda suspicious'

• brainbomb... is doing nearly nothing

• bozo is keeping track of potatoes and doing basically nothing else

• I have somehow not yet been shitpushed today

Anything else I missed?

Yes, you again did not answer my questions about D1 EOD:

Did you ever answer this?

Why were you so concerned about the possibility that Kakarroto was fake claiming the CP?

##VOTE DiplomacyandWarfare

both of these have been answered.

##vote miminena
for the fabricated tie

(if you're unsure what I was talking about, you can find out by actually fucking reading my posts. I discussed what I thought was happening with the CP in some detail during N1)

i'm curious what motive would he have to lie about having the couch potato?

losing all accountability for his vote?

You stand accused of claiming I did not answer questions that I did, in fact, answer, as an excuse to shitpush me.
##vote bozotheclown
##end

My first question, which you chose not to answer on 2 occasions, was not answered by what you said at the time about forcing a tie to verify if Kakarroto was holding the CP, because what I was asking was why you would vote for miminena after they claimed to have the SP and risk destroying the SP.

Here is where you acknowledged miminena's claim, then voted for them, disregarding the risk of losing the SP to a DK attempt:

ok since nobody seems to understand my soft i currently hold the sweet potato and thus if i am voted out there will be no dk and we will lose the sweet potato

oh
well...

##vote miminena
for the fabricated tie

The SP has use in possibly clearing town players, but its second benefit to town is to possibly block a NK, or a town PK, so I was asking why you did not care about that risk.

The second question was not specifically answered by your response to miminena's question, because miminena asked what motivation you thought Kakarroto would have for fake claim the SP, and I asked why you were so concerned about the possibility. Thinking it is possible Kakarroto might fake claim the CP is different than being so concerned about it to try risk losing the SP or ending the DK vote on a tie to find out, especially since Kakarroto would have to pass it, and we could easily have verified his claim by having him announce who he passed it to before the new holder declared having it.

What I suspect is that you were concerned that after miminena's claim, miminena's voters could switch to you, putting you at risk of being the DK, because you still had 3 votes at the time of miminena's claim, only 2 behind ND, and that you were trying to keep the wagons ND vs. miminena instead of ND vs you.

Then, when I asked you about D1 EOD during N1, you ignored my question and added me to your scum reads, reinforcing my suspicion of you.

[damo666]

I dont even know how many scum are in this game and I assume its 4 based on the setup was 18 right?

So yea a number of jamie-bo-mimi-red-dream-kak-will arent mafia here

Four scum.

Hmmm. This gives me a slight Jamie-brain scumpair feel. I would expect Jamie to berate brain for not reading the set up.

[Jamiet99uk]

Okay bo is scum

So someone im scumreading is actually town

?

[Jamiet99uk]

I am still catching up.

[brainbomb]

Okay bo is scum

So someone im scumreading is actually town

?

He seems to be in that smooth operator position I would expect mafia to have. Some guy who wasnt doing well early who got himself out of an early jam

[Jamiet99uk]

Why did you claim it so early lmao

I dont know actually. Didnt seem like it mattered

You could make an argument that the dumbest thing you can do with the couch potato as a brand new player in the game is claim it and make yourself voteless on your first day. Are you the same player to everyone else without a vote as you are with a vote or did you simply mute your influence?

I don’t really think this is alignment indicative. Just a bad decision you made.

I think this is the correct take rather than Kak's response of scumreading him for it.

[bozotheclown]

All I know is the potatoes randomly activate on some night and have a 25% chance after that to explode

I assumed that happened before I passed them off? Did I kill ghug on accident ?

a) scum NKd ghug and no potato exploded (90%)

or

b) scum tried to kill Bozo and failed and ghug was killed by potato explosion (10%).

C) scum AND potato killed ghug?

We already have one extra HP claimed for D2, I doubt one has been eliminated.

[brainbomb]

Bo is basically running the game however and isnt getting much support from anyone. So if hes a pack mafia leader this is a serious pathetic game from town

Hence id never advocate for bo to die. Ghug biting the dust with a strong townread on bo is a good look for bo as well

[Jamiet99uk]

so im being voted by two scum, which is good (or at least better than being voted by two town)
Red Neurax is STILL coasting
kak, brainbomb and will are posting
damo is kind of...not
anyways im staying on bozo.
Bozo, you have two choices:
(a) continue on me. You have now successfully outted yourself as maf shitpushing me and as soon as I manage to convince everyone else you are lying, you will die. You will also receive a hot potato
(b) go shitpush someone else. You might survive a few days longer this way. I'll probably move my vote and throw the potato at someone else.

Dude if you think bozo is scum, why do you make an offer to leave him alone if he votes elsewhere?
Let's make peace between town and scum so everyone lives in peace?

This is a great observation from Yavuzovic.

"I've sure you're outted scum but if you stop pushing me I'll let you live" is a really sketchy take.

[bo_sox48]

Okay bo is scum

So someone im scumreading is actually town

?

He seems to be in that smooth operator position I would expect mafia to have. Some guy who wasnt doing well early who got himself out of an early jam

Your read is wrong and I wasn’t in an early jam to get out of, but I’m taking this as a compliment

[Jamiet99uk]

so im being voted by two scum, which is good (or at least better than being voted by two town)
Red Neurax is STILL coasting
kak, brainbomb and will are posting
damo is kind of...not
anyways im staying on bozo.
Bozo, you have two choices:
(a) continue on me. You have now successfully outted yourself as maf shitpushing me and as soon as I manage to convince everyone else you are lying, you will die. You will also receive a hot potato
(b) go shitpush someone else. You might survive a few days longer this way. I'll probably move my vote and throw the potato at someone else.

Dude if you think bozo is scum, why do you make an offer to leave him alone if he votes elsewhere?
Let's make peace between town and scum so everyone lives in peace?

This is a great observation from Yavuzovic.

"I've sure you're outted scum but if you stop pushing me I'll let you live" is a really sketchy take.

*I'm sure

EBWOP

[Jamiet99uk]

Can everyone please provide me with a person who you believe is just never mafia this game

All you have to do to help me here is give me one name. And I can decide based on this where to send my potatoes by going to the least townread people

My strongest townread is currently Yavuzovic.

[brainbomb]

Given that I also have a hot
Potato and worcej wasnt doing much to be townread

Being forthcoming with what I know and what I posess seemed fine. Without knowing if mafia sent me the couch potato it doesnt seem dumb to have claimed it.

I didnt actually know when I claimed that kak had sent it to me. Nor that he was scumreading me. I hadnt even read more then 20 pages of the game and I still havent and im probably not going too.

I told you im low investment and you should be grateful for this. Im
Not gonna flood the game with endless theory crafting. I have my scumreads; im
Sticking To them

[brainbomb]

The only way I could strategize differently would be if I just assumed scum didnt send me the couch potato. I saw no reason to assume that town sent it. I suppose its possible. Kak isnt very towny and had I known he sent it - id still have claimed