Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Vote count 2.5

Kakarroto (3) JustAGuyNamedWill, bo_sox48, Control V
brainbomb (3) BunnyGo, damo666, Kakarroto
damo666 (2) miminena, rdrivera2005
DiplomacyandWarfare (2) bozotheclown, yavuzovic
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) DreamTrawler
bozotheclown (1) DiplomacyandWarfare*
Jamiet99uk (1) brainbomb
Red Neurax (1) Jamiet99uk

No one is about to become gitterkartoffeln.

Chaqa and Red Neurax must cast votes.

Five and a half hours remain.

[yavuzovic]

and sorry if you're bad at the game and haven't identified at least one other town by now, but I'm pretty sure that dip and Dream are town, so eff off with your stupid implication that I'm mafia

Who are your scumreads? I want to know so I can remind you how flawed your (or anyone's) reads are in D2. We just started the game, you're supposed to know nothing, and if you really are town and still have townclears without a power role that gives information, you are the one who has low expectations from the players who play mafia.

[brainbomb]

I can't decide between the overly verbose one or the overlt tinfoily one but I ain't voting the somewhat verbose ostrich.

I guess based on the wagons and where you are voting you are calling me a overly tinfoily one?

What was tinfoil about my reads?

[Kakarroto]

What is why? I'm against keeping potatoes secret. I support revealing and tracking them. Mafia can't hold them forever and they must eventually get rid of them. Both couch and hot potatos. In my post I only want brain to vote somewhere else and implicitly defend revealing couch potato for future holders.

hypothetical

you've gotten the couch potato
you immediatly claim at the time you got the PM
everyone knows you can't do jack shit for the next day phase

what have we learned? What is the incentive to do anything for those phases? People will just ignore you, or at least feel no danger from you. You can't really impact decisions.

I'm not against revealing, and not against avoiding any ties. Feel free to vote 'no kill' after you've claimed.

But with the threat alone of your vote, and the information if people knew who shouldn't, you can get information about others. I don't say "do not claim". I'm saying "claim towards the end of the day". 15, 10 minutes before EoD would be great. Earlier if you can't be there for EoD. But it gives such a card blanc to just do nothing when you claim early

Yeah you got a point I must agree with this. Though then you stayed on a lead wagon, potentially impacting people's decisions.
Okay okay ka-karrot man, I must overcome my xenophobia. I'm going back to ##vote Diplomacy and warfare. He must go.

but dip is the most town of all the others. Vote for someone else than him. And me. Preferable Red, or Control V, or brain

[yavuzovic]

What makes dip towny. He is my top scumread. I want to kill him.

[Kakarroto]

So just to be clear

Your argument is that I am mafia and claimed having the cp so people
Would ignore my votes?

town brain would've kept that information hidden and pushed his maf reads, and if town brain would read me as mafia, would've also looked out who potentially knew and might be my partner.

[yavuzovic]

What makes dip towny. He is my top scumread. I want to kill him.

It is supposed to be a question

[Kakarroto]

You always have a plan. As both alignments

I might make it sound like I have a plan to look smart or intelligent, but mostly I wing it. Like maybe some rough outskirts, what if's, but a plan to follow? Nah

[brainbomb]

So just to be clear

Your argument is that I am mafia and claimed having the cp so people
Would ignore my votes?

town brain would've kept that information hidden and pushed his maf reads, and if town brain would read me as mafia, would've also looked out who potentially knew and might be my partner.

I think Jamie should weigh in on this actually

Because me keeping mech and information to myself is like “never” a thing. This has never been true for almost a decade and Jamie has famously said brain will cream his pants blurting out any form of information he has about the game without any consideration.

Please do point to a game that supports your argument. Id love to hear that one

[brainbomb]

You always have a plan. As both alignments

I might make it sound like I have a plan to look smart or intelligent, but mostly I wing it. Like maybe some rough outskirts, what if's, but a plan to follow? Nah

Yea it just exists in the headspace of my mind where worcej was a viable miskill and you effectively made his chances of voting a counterwagon to
Himself impossible.

You should really be arguing strongly why worcej was obv scum to you and why I still am

[Kakarroto]

and sorry if you're bad at the game and haven't identified at least one other town by now, but I'm pretty sure that dip and Dream are town, so eff off with your stupid implication that I'm mafia

Who are your scumreads? I want to know so I can remind you how flawed your (or anyone's) reads are in D2. We just started the game, you're supposed to know nothing, and if you really are town and still have townclears without a power role that gives information, you are the one who has low expectations from the players who play mafia.

I'm just much better at finding town than mafia. A lot of people are. You haven't played here in a while, I guess?

I'm most sus about Red, Will, Control V and brain right now. Probably haven't have the team there, but weeding out from here is a good start.

And I don't know why you suddenly talk about clears, we'll only have them with the help of the sweet potato. But you should have, as others, at least some who you are reasonable sure they are town, like dip. I mean, yeah, I could be wrong there, it's not my ultimative knowledge, but I don't think I'm so bad to get it wrong

[Kakarroto]

What makes dip towny. He is my top scumread. I want to kill him.

he has no malignent drive, there is just headless chicken chaos. Trying to find out stuff, going from one point to another, expermimenting. Nothing more than pure want to know more. No vitriol. That's so different from the times where he is mafia and tries to make bad stuff stick

[brainbomb]

Not sure if youre familiar with what one note scum play is

But the concept is you have an agenda and the best way to further that agenda is to just keep repeating it like an advertising slogan again and again in slightly different ways.

They do this down in georgia with billboards for pecan plantations. The first few billboards you see you laugh and say “we dont need pecans”

By the 30th billboard warning you that the exit for pecans is a mile away you not only want pecans, you have your wallet out; your wife is
Looking up their website. The kids wanna try the saltwater taffy and youre getting some Goddamn pecans.


That relates to this scenario in that you are a one note advertising campaign for that worcej was mafia; that bb misplayed claiming.

Soon the whole family will be taking exit brainbomb to try his tinfoil flavored pecans

[Kakarroto]

So just to be clear

Your argument is that I am mafia and claimed having the cp so people
Would ignore my votes?

town brain would've kept that information hidden and pushed his maf reads, and if town brain would read me as mafia, would've also looked out who potentially knew and might be my partner.

I think Jamie should weigh in on this actually

Because me keeping mech and information to myself is like “never” a thing. This has never been true for almost a decade and Jamie has famously said brain will cream his pants blurting out any form of information he has about the game without any consideration.

Please do point to a game that supports your argument. Id love to hear that one

I don't have the time ti visit past games, but I refuse to believe that town brain would squander that situation so much

[Kakarroto]

You always have a plan. As both alignments

I might make it sound like I have a plan to look smart or intelligent, but mostly I wing it. Like maybe some rough outskirts, what if's, but a plan to follow? Nah

Yea it just exists in the headspace of my mind where worcej was a viable miskill and you effectively made his chances of voting a counterwagon to
Himself impossible.

You should really be arguing strongly why worcej was obv scum to you and why I still am

do you even read what I'm saying? Worcej DECREASED after I thought about it more in his likeliness being mafia for me, at night. I thought for a bit I might've made a mistake giving him the potato, but you are really assuring me I was right to do so

[brainbomb]

[brainbomb]

Im reading your posts making the same conclusion that I am mafia because town brain would never claim to have a nullified vote.

Please tell me where to get some pecans. The kids are starving

[Kakarroto]

Not sure if youre familiar with what one note scum play is

But the concept is you have an agenda and the best way to further that agenda is to just keep repeating it like an advertising slogan again and again in slightly different ways.

They do this down in georgia with billboards for pecan plantations. The first few billboards you see you laugh and say “we dont need pecans”

By the 30th billboard warning you that the exit for pecans is a mile away you not only want pecans, you have your wallet out; your wife is
Looking up their website. The kids wanna try the saltwater taffy and youre getting some Goddamn pecans.


That relates to this scenario in that you are a one note advertising campaign for that worcej was mafia; that bb misplayed claiming.

Soon the whole family will be taking exit brainbomb to try his tinfoil flavored pecans

I pointed that stuff out in various games, that repetition of bad info. That was stuff that maf-dip did, a lot, and others too. I despice this in advertisments so much that I begin to hate a product and actively avoid buying it when I come across an overly offensive ad wave like that.

And it's disgusting how you twist my read, which changed from my suspiciouns of worcej to him being much more null, into me wanting to hammer him. Read me for real! But you are just picking out stuff that fits your narrative, it seems, and you are twisting what doesn't fit how you want to see it!

[Kakarroto]

Im reading your posts making the same conclusion that I am mafia because town brain would never claim to have a nullified vote.

Please tell me where to get some pecans. The kids are starving

##end

[brainbomb]

What is the term virtue signaling? False flagging?

I know this is a thing where you ferment a narrative to suit an agenda