Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

What I think of what?

What you think of the post that you quoted and said: “I’m going to stay on you for now”

Did my argument not change anything?

“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

You overestimate my abilities as mafia

But if you truly don’t believe me, I’d advise you look into my other town and mafia games on the bot we’ve coded. I am nothing like my mafia games

[brainbomb]

I didnt actually intend to vote will but his posts are still scummy so this is also okay

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I didnt actually intend to vote will but his posts are still scummy so this is also okay

So why did you end up voting me?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

You can’t get out of your misconstrued analysis of my game by saying ‘well i didnt mean to’

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Vote count 2.4

JustAGuyNamedWill (4): DreamTrawler, Kakarroto, DiplomacyandWarfare, brainbomb
DiplomacyandWarfare (3): yavuzovic, bozotheclown, Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto (2): JustAGuyNamedWill, bo_sox48
yavuzovic (1): rdrivera2005
damo666 (1): miminena

JustAGuyNamedWill is being marinated.

BunnyGo, Chaqa, Control V, damo666, and Red Neurax need to vote.

rdrivera2005 needs to post more.

Just under 17 hours remain in Day 2.

[brainbomb]

You can’t get out of your misconstrued analysis of my game by saying ‘well i didnt mean to’

Probably a broken quote.

[brainbomb]

Miscontrual analysis. Lmao; holy crap youre butthurt

[brainbomb]

Besides yourself who am I tunneling that just looks like
My scumgame?

[yavuzovic]

When I originally suggested immediately declaring HPs, there was some objection, so waiting a phase seemed to be the consensus. I don't see a significant town reason to keep them hidden.

I didn't want to say it for you personally. But fr let's declare who has hot potatoes as D2. I have none.

I was told that I have the couch potato and thus my vote is not going to count today I assume this should be helpful to avoiding potential ties.

Great, thanks for the information. Can you jump down the lead wagon so people can coordinate better, unlike D1. I don't quite remember but I think nokill was a valid option for EoD, can we agree to keep couch potato on nokill as it doesn't help them to vote anyway? We can still make use of scumreads, keep them coming.

it is also reasonably guessable that i would pass it to one of damo or bozo. the question is then whether scum having figured that out would want to take that risk n1

Why is that?

i had them as top town for most of d1 and n1 and it would be reasonable to assume that i would send the SP to someone i think is town

I see. Thank you. My scumread on mimi XOR bozo wasn't strong enough to vote them anyway. I will consider the N1 kill acceptable for both of these being town as long as further evidence doesn't show up against them.

[yavuzovic]

I’m probably not voting brain today over my previously stated targets because brain becomes more obvious if he truly is mafia

Unfortunately i may not stay alive that long so be warned

I’m tossing my potatoes to brain for funsies if I do end up leading near EOD

Brain won't be obvious if he truly is mafia. He's going to be scummy no matter the alignment.

[Control V]

Brainbomb does have the couch potato and I do not follow their progression onto their current worldview but I don't really see the pushes on either Dream or Kaka being partners.

##vote kaka

I Much prefer this over Will.

[BunnyGo]

...I'm pretty sure that someone who had a potato would have checked this by now and therefore chaqa is lying

All I know is the potatoes randomly activate on some night and have a 25% chance after that to explode

I assumed that happened before I passed them off? Did I kill ghug on accident ?

a) scum NKd ghug and no potato exploded (90%)

or

b) scum tried to kill Bozo and failed and ghug was killed by potato explosion (10%).

C) scum AND potato killed ghug?

[BunnyGo]

Brainbomb does have the couch potato and I do not follow their progression onto their current worldview but I don't really see the pushes on either Dream or Kaka being partners.

##vote kaka

I Much prefer this over Will.

Brain’s in the game now?!

[BunnyGo]

Why is everyone voting Just?

[BunnyGo]

I probably won’t have much attention the rest of day. But for now ##vote brain.

[BunnyGo]

Why is everyone voting Just?

One of Drunk Bunny’s (TM) only contributions was saying just was town. So I’ll probably vote anyone else.

[rdrivera2005]

Sorry for being absent but I have an unexpected visit at home and a tournament that started Friday night and will end on Sunday.

[rdrivera2005]

All I know is the potatoes randomly activate on some night and have a 25% chance after that to explode

I assumed that happened before I passed them off? Did I kill ghug on accident ?

a) scum NKd ghug and no potato exploded (90%)

or

b) scum tried to kill Bozo and failed and ghug was killed by potato explosion (10%).

C) scum AND potato killed ghug?

I said this before.

[rdrivera2005]

Mimi or Kaka to disrupt the information flow about the whereabouts of potatoes, or Bozo who was compiling the whereabouts of potatoes.

hmm, usually I'm not a nk target, mafia often thinks I can be misvoted. I guess they thought that mimi is new enough to fall in the same category?

Thinking about it, I was only nk'ed N1 (or rather doused and later set aflame) by brain because of Chaqa, in the game with many cops, because Chaqa thought I would notice that he was mafia that game. Guess it's a slight town point for him that it didn't happen this game? But he could've been overruled.

Anyway, bozo was probably a good target too. Maybe mafia guessed correctly that he would get the safe potato? (ugh, why did my brain automatically imagine a safe made out of potato when I wrote this? That's not a very good safe) Bozo was kinda high on the town list, I think, so maybe mafia didn't want to risk hitting the potato?

I mean, another option would be that bozo is mafia, but I kinda doubt that. I mean, he would probably get much towncred for a phase or two if they hit a teammate that has that potato, but if bozo keeps surviving afterwards, we would notice that pretty fast and just vote him out.

Hmm. Yeah, it is a bit strange, thinking about it, mafia would love to get that potato out of the game as early as possible, no? Like a townclear now is much less valuable than a townclear in the later stages. So avoiding bozo for fear of hitting the potato is kinda a wrong line of thought.

Maybe it was a read of someone that lead to ghug's demise? Or they just thought that ghug was scarier than others? Hmm

On the whole I’ve gotten a pretty fair town vibe from bozo and mimi alike, but this got me thinking about how the mafia team could intelligently, with full knowledge of the potato mechanics, could believe they can afford to fearkill ghug. I came up with four options:

a) the scumteam is comprised of some combination of people who aren’t thinking hard enough to realize that the only person that wasn’t potentially being saved was mimi, because mimi had the sweet potato and passed it to bozo.

b) the scumteam is made up of a group of people that decided they don’t care about the sweet potato.

c) mimi is scum, so the mafia team knew where the sweet potato was going and knew how to avoid it.

d) bozo is scum, so the mafia team knew where the sweet potato was and knew it was out of commission.

I could easily believe option a), especially in a game where more experienced folks like worcej or Chaqa just as two off the cuff examples haven’t really put in any effort but have the background here to fearkill and the experience to take the lead in those conversations. I don’t buy b) at all because it’s just stupid. The last two options also make some sense in a vacuum and, in either case, would explain why the scumteam felt comfortable fearkilling one of the more obvious targets in a game without PRs. Knowing where the sweet potato landed is a wealth of knowledge for one night.

I have another option.
E) Scum want to hit SP early in the game when they can afford a night without a kill. This just avoid the risk of giving clears to town later and having to deal with SP later. It's another version of b) scum just didn't mind SP because either the NK happen or SP is gone.

[rdrivera2005]

##CALL GM can the sweet potato be passed between mafia members? Maybe that is a dumb question idk

What? I am starting to believe the goldfish comment.