you missed me flailing around and trying to contribute when reasonably it's probably best for the town if i just sheep someoneDiplomacyandWarfare wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:11 pmso, let me see:
- brainbomb replaced worcej
- there are still only two votes on red
- chaqa is a wagon for decent reasons
- red neurax is still talking about having 'plans' instead of actually giving reads
- other than 'control V kinda suspicious'
- brainbomb... is doing nearly nothing
- bozo is keeping track of potatoes and doing basically nothing else
Anything else I missed?
- I have somehow not yet been shitpushed today
Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
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Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
Quoth the Penguin, "Noot Noot"
Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
I have alot more rereading to do but lets start here
What can I say? I'm survivin'
Crawling out these sheets to see another day
Crawling out these sheets to see another day
Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
Page 1 notes
Mimi posts dont look great. Bunny posts seem cheerful in P#11 and mimi posts like P#10 seem rushed to get something out there. I understand why town bunny would post playfully early. I dont understand why town mimi would need a vote on foodcoats.
P#19 is nothing of consequence. Suppose any align could say that. I dont understand this posts purpose in the big schema.
Dreams posts arent very thought out. Just seem a little meh. I do like P#20 for its casual interest in talking about potatoes. But its not really towny by any stretch of imagination. I can understand why dream would want to post about potatoes as any alignment.
page 2
P#21 post by kak is kind of hard to read. I dont understand the purpose of the post. Some story he is telling for himself I guess? This post doesnt seem very towny.
P#22 and P#23 by damo are okay. I dont understand the purpose of what he is doing. I could speculate that he wouldnt do this as mafia or that he wouldnt say this about his teammates but I just simply dont understand them. That said they are just okay ish.
P#24 not sure why dream defends mimi there. What was silly about voting food? I dont understand the purpose behind this defense.
P#26 kak is talking about food with dream t. Another NAI post. This is slightly better than the previous kak post as it actually gets into the foodie posting.
P#27 is mentioning a player who isnt here. I dont understand the purpose of this mimi post.
P#30 is pretty sudden snap into serious.
“hmm, it's pretty quiet
Bunny, what do you think of damo discrediting you (and mimi) without him voting you? Do you think he has ulterior motives here? Or do you think it's just a silly joke?”
Kak takes a very sharp angle of attack here which seems like a wedge effort on damo and bunny. Characterizing damo behavior here as a discredit when having reread P#23 I admit it feels lazy or a bit absurd but I simply dont see a discredit here. This feels like a reach by kak in my opinion.
P#31 by bo is right after and seems just as bad. Somehow bo agrees with the notion that bunny is bussing mimi and none of what bunny was doing looks like bussing to me at all.
Way too early scumleans are mimi-bo-kak and maybe dream but dream seems a bit more off the grid and whatever is happening around damo seems like dream is not consciously involved
P#32 bozo is just already town. Hes in his laser focus zone of setup angling and even though hes failed doing this as scum I like to just cement bozo in as townread #1.
Town
bozo
Probably Town
Bunny
Null damo, dream
Scummy
Mimi
Bo
Kak
P#39 talk between bo and damo seems like this isnt mafia talking in the thread as ive seen worse. Worth watching for later as damo is good at duping by defacto engagement. Bo looks a little less evil there.
Page 3
Bo post at top of page P#41 is very dire. P#42 is giving off very weird feelings. Right after bozo wants to talk mech bo seems to want to not do so? I do not understand these posts by bo.
P#46 and P#47 clarifying how many potato poppers seems ok. No opinion on if thats towny for dream but bozo still strikes a chord here as town.
P#48 is very gross. I dont understand bo comment to mimi and mimi response is very not towny looking. Highly concerning dialogue here.
P#50 another throwaway post by kak who feels really flat and not exuberant so far.
P#53 is just bo thanking mimi for pledging to try to scum harder? I dont see why this is a good exchange between the two.
P#55 and P#56 dream is staggering at coming up with thoughts about the game which its early, its shitposter time, its alrght this can happen. I dont understand the point of what he is doing yet.
P#57 and P#58 bozo just continues to shine as all around him seems very off and strange
P#60 is a great entry by Jamie. Hes cheerful and doesnt show up doing anything that annoys me.
P#62 is the best post from mimi so far and thats… idk. I finally see a post I understand its motivation!
P#66 and P#68 dip is ready to play he has a potato and hes here to get down to brass tax. But P#71 is a strange early needle at Jamie. I know from reading this game casually that this later blows up into something annoying that looks very v/v and its easy to forget this type of stuff but Dip is being annoying this game. But I understand that can be more like his town game in fact his town game is just far more grumpy and focused than his mafia style
P#72 bozo is just stuck in neutral on setup stuff hes still making sense and educating people and thats still good. Mimi is trying to feed off of that energy and seem like she cares about what he says in P#73. Now I could be wrong on mimi and im just not giving her a chance.
Mimi sweet potato claim, the nk on ghug and her comments about foodcoats being in wolfchat all feel like mimi just wants to openly wolf this game and ill make that argument later if it still feels true.
P#75 bunny is very town. And it is very common for town bunny to mistake scum talking to him
As also being on his side. Regardless this is not a dialogue that looks like two scum having a cup of tea in my opinion. Bunny is sharing his views while kak is not.
P#77 doesnt vibe with me. I dont know what bunny finds strong about dreams play.
P#79 spot on bunny. Bo is scummy and this is a correct argument.
P#80 is amusing and makes me think bunny is joking. But if serious I think bunny is also town for actually saying that. It is likely to incite Jamie who will demand to know why…
P#81 and P#82 is not bunnys scum style in my opinion. Bunny is joking or teasing people. Throwing things at folks in a chill way.
P#84 P#85 P#86 is just awful. Jamie is probably town but these arent good reactionary posts and this set himself up for a world of absurdity.
P#88 mimi still feels really flat here
P#89 bunny is having fun. Hes relaxed. Hes engagin people with humor.
P#97 red neurax wants to pass a potato to damo. This somewhat feels attached to bo-kak in the overt call outs on damo taking opposing stances on the same slot.
P#98 and P#99 are food entries. Doesnt seem scummy. It fits with how everyone who seems non evil has entered. Im biased, and probably making too many logical leaps now to really town this
So by p6 im at
Town
Bozo
Bunny
Damo
Dip and war for later fight w jamie
Jamie for later fight w dip
Food P#102 P#103 boost food above null for me
Dream
Red Neurax
Kak
Bo
Mimi
Page 6
Food makes a crude comment. Hes provocative and thats not his scum game as far as I recall.
P#116 is not great. We always kill red when hes town and somehow he may yet live when hes not. Cuz this aint it.
P#120 is a better post by Bo and hes grumpy. Usually grouchy bo is town bo. But I also dont think his posts are very towny. So this doesnt improve much in my opinion.
P#121 and P#122 bo is moving into Gran Torino mode telling kids to get off his lawn.
“Not exclaiming how upset you are to see me back in this hellhole again on your first post tells me that either you are scum or you finally developed some self control, and I don’t believe that is possible”
Bo strikes a chord to just pivot into grumpy play and it doesnt really seem to make sense what caused this.
Chaqa arrival
P#125 and P#126 nothing to glean from this. Hes playing a joust with mafia or pretending to play a joust with mafia. Will need to see how ghug read chaqa and if ghug didnt trust it then the nk on ghug incriminates chaqa sometimes. Otherwise this is NAI and i cant read into it.
P#133-P#135 damo is town. I think it looks like town because town damo
Likes mech and this is a good setup for a mech hoe like damo to work
The corner.
P#139 is really mapped out and somewhat scary as maf would try to path out their wincon. But Idk if that post helps maf in any way. And damo doesnt feel scummy for producing that.
P#141 is a good entry by control v. Already showing signs of having thoughts about players and their motives.
P#142 dream is quick to be reactive to control v pressure. I dont think dream is paranoid about being mentioned by mafia there it looks more like dream doesnt wanna have his name mentioned period.
Jamie is loud, Jamie is defensive here. Jamie is grumpy.
P#153 I actually like from rdr. Not bad and nothing forced.
I cant remember if rdr prioritizes ghug deaths early. I cant read rdr very well historically. But this is a decent start and id shake the mans hand.
Page 9
Everything bunny and damo and bozo do feels objectively town aligned and you can pry my corpse off their graves when my day comes but aint nobody touchin my rabbit friend this game. Damo and bozo are the mech hoes and this trend is usually a positive town result.
Jamie posts are really anger fueled and seemed annoyed at being here p#179 among numerous examples of just not wanting to spend posts questioning people. Its maybe putting jamie out of my townreads now.
P#183 is heavy handed from dip and seems jaded. Its annoying me and that probably means its a townie being a doof
P#185 is great however and dip may have a point
P#190 is not good from dip at all but he might really think its a good point.
P#198 Jamie is swimming off into a performative swimming pool of angst about anything mentioning his name that doesnt praise him and call him a hero. Its what I expect from Jamie as any alignment. And he still isnt very curious about people yet.
P#203 is a place town Jamie would express concern. And thats me now!
P#207 is a great look from damo who is taken aback by it. Great look because it makes sense damo would not be paranoid of worcej lurk factor
Jamie is seemingly just spamming the game with anything but solving and hes burning posts on trying to push a snarky vibe rather than hawkishly chasing down his scumreads or things he finds out of sync with his understanding
P#221 jamie does not give a fuck about anything but joking this game and is still wasting posts on jokes and crude angles to steer mech talk
P#224 jamie still wants dip to feel bad for talking about him. Bunny subtly defending jamie in P#223 but this is easy to be a real thought. I dont know if bunny is reacting to dips post because his name is on it or if its because the idea is tinfoil.
P#226 - #227 is jamie finally deciding to go hard back at dip. This feels barely towny from jamie as it finally isnt shitposts.
P#231 is a good question from Bunny but doesnt rule out being teamed to Jamie. Unlikely and it can just be real curiousity.
By this point im at
Bozo
Damo
Bunny
Food
Control V
Dip
Chaqa
Jamie
Dream
Bo
Red
mimi
P#249 is a better post by mimi. Problem is its the first post that is actually interesting. Before that nothing was all that moving or compelling.
P#273 by rdr is towny. Dont agree with the opinion per se but I can see town rdr saying it. Creeping out of the darkness he strikes. And town rdr usually is straightforward not waxxing.
Hi rdr! :)
Jamie and Dip battle is now a War
Jip and War keep quacking. People keep ignoring.
This is where I saw as a spectator what led me to think their battle was v/v and perhaps Jamie got it into that place but for whatever reason he seemed to have little desire to ask people questions up to that point.
I find mimi - bo - dream - red scummier than the loudness from
jamie. At least up to page 15.
Page 16 now
P#284 is rdr town imo again. Straightforward and his chime ins dont seem nefarious or ill begotten
p#294 from bo is okayish. I dont understand what scumslip occurred so its a reasonable ask.
P#300 is bo being frank and doesnt move anything for me.
P#301 why chaqa. This is interesting. I had forgotten chaqa existed by this point.
Bo actually looks better this page in calling everyone dumb.
Will posts are ok I guess?
p#316 feels like its late to the party where bo looked bad and wants bo to go back to the scummy looking crowd
P#322 will is mafia. Thats a shitty read. Will defends mimi in post p#319 and kak in P#320 and both feel deliberately forced to protect scum partners who are not shiny yet.
Will defends Jamie. Hammers away at dip and will does rise up to the task.
Now jamie mutes Dip
“Ok wait so Dip usually has very weird tinfoils that much is true but like I’ve never seen a tinfoil of his this tinfoilly
Usually when I see town dip doing his thing there is a method to teh madness but this is different. Maybe scum Dip trying to imitate his town game”
This is a little bit of will trying to fit the square peg in a round hole. Essentially saying this is scummy because “oh uhhh maybe dip got better at copying his towngame - yea lets go with that”
Dip calls will scum now in P#352 and im inclined to agree. Now im at
town
Bozo
Damo
Food
Bunny
Ctrl V
Dip
Jamie
Dream
Bo
Will
Red
Mimi
Bo moves up slightly Will begins to look evil. Jamie is ehhhhh
P#358 bo looks good and finally seems townyish
Page 19
Bo votes Bunny not sure why he votes Bunny now when it felt like he was about to vote will
Dip is loud
Everyone is loud
Mimi - dream - red are nowhere to be seen.
P#375 is not very good red still looks scummy
Page 20!
I read 20 pages now! Yay me.
P#398 ghug thinks bo seems fine. Maybe ghug is right.
P#411 by mimi aint that great again. Mimi just still feels like mafia
Mimi posts dont look great. Bunny posts seem cheerful in P#11 and mimi posts like P#10 seem rushed to get something out there. I understand why town bunny would post playfully early. I dont understand why town mimi would need a vote on foodcoats.
P#19 is nothing of consequence. Suppose any align could say that. I dont understand this posts purpose in the big schema.
Dreams posts arent very thought out. Just seem a little meh. I do like P#20 for its casual interest in talking about potatoes. But its not really towny by any stretch of imagination. I can understand why dream would want to post about potatoes as any alignment.
page 2
P#21 post by kak is kind of hard to read. I dont understand the purpose of the post. Some story he is telling for himself I guess? This post doesnt seem very towny.
P#22 and P#23 by damo are okay. I dont understand the purpose of what he is doing. I could speculate that he wouldnt do this as mafia or that he wouldnt say this about his teammates but I just simply dont understand them. That said they are just okay ish.
P#24 not sure why dream defends mimi there. What was silly about voting food? I dont understand the purpose behind this defense.
P#26 kak is talking about food with dream t. Another NAI post. This is slightly better than the previous kak post as it actually gets into the foodie posting.
P#27 is mentioning a player who isnt here. I dont understand the purpose of this mimi post.
P#30 is pretty sudden snap into serious.
“hmm, it's pretty quiet
Bunny, what do you think of damo discrediting you (and mimi) without him voting you? Do you think he has ulterior motives here? Or do you think it's just a silly joke?”
Kak takes a very sharp angle of attack here which seems like a wedge effort on damo and bunny. Characterizing damo behavior here as a discredit when having reread P#23 I admit it feels lazy or a bit absurd but I simply dont see a discredit here. This feels like a reach by kak in my opinion.
P#31 by bo is right after and seems just as bad. Somehow bo agrees with the notion that bunny is bussing mimi and none of what bunny was doing looks like bussing to me at all.
Way too early scumleans are mimi-bo-kak and maybe dream but dream seems a bit more off the grid and whatever is happening around damo seems like dream is not consciously involved
P#32 bozo is just already town. Hes in his laser focus zone of setup angling and even though hes failed doing this as scum I like to just cement bozo in as townread #1.
Town
bozo
Probably Town
Bunny
Null damo, dream
Scummy
Mimi
Bo
Kak
P#39 talk between bo and damo seems like this isnt mafia talking in the thread as ive seen worse. Worth watching for later as damo is good at duping by defacto engagement. Bo looks a little less evil there.
Page 3
Bo post at top of page P#41 is very dire. P#42 is giving off very weird feelings. Right after bozo wants to talk mech bo seems to want to not do so? I do not understand these posts by bo.
P#46 and P#47 clarifying how many potato poppers seems ok. No opinion on if thats towny for dream but bozo still strikes a chord here as town.
P#48 is very gross. I dont understand bo comment to mimi and mimi response is very not towny looking. Highly concerning dialogue here.
P#50 another throwaway post by kak who feels really flat and not exuberant so far.
P#53 is just bo thanking mimi for pledging to try to scum harder? I dont see why this is a good exchange between the two.
P#55 and P#56 dream is staggering at coming up with thoughts about the game which its early, its shitposter time, its alrght this can happen. I dont understand the point of what he is doing yet.
P#57 and P#58 bozo just continues to shine as all around him seems very off and strange
P#60 is a great entry by Jamie. Hes cheerful and doesnt show up doing anything that annoys me.
P#62 is the best post from mimi so far and thats… idk. I finally see a post I understand its motivation!
P#66 and P#68 dip is ready to play he has a potato and hes here to get down to brass tax. But P#71 is a strange early needle at Jamie. I know from reading this game casually that this later blows up into something annoying that looks very v/v and its easy to forget this type of stuff but Dip is being annoying this game. But I understand that can be more like his town game in fact his town game is just far more grumpy and focused than his mafia style
P#72 bozo is just stuck in neutral on setup stuff hes still making sense and educating people and thats still good. Mimi is trying to feed off of that energy and seem like she cares about what he says in P#73. Now I could be wrong on mimi and im just not giving her a chance.
Mimi sweet potato claim, the nk on ghug and her comments about foodcoats being in wolfchat all feel like mimi just wants to openly wolf this game and ill make that argument later if it still feels true.
P#75 bunny is very town. And it is very common for town bunny to mistake scum talking to him
As also being on his side. Regardless this is not a dialogue that looks like two scum having a cup of tea in my opinion. Bunny is sharing his views while kak is not.
P#77 doesnt vibe with me. I dont know what bunny finds strong about dreams play.
P#79 spot on bunny. Bo is scummy and this is a correct argument.
P#80 is amusing and makes me think bunny is joking. But if serious I think bunny is also town for actually saying that. It is likely to incite Jamie who will demand to know why…
P#81 and P#82 is not bunnys scum style in my opinion. Bunny is joking or teasing people. Throwing things at folks in a chill way.
P#84 P#85 P#86 is just awful. Jamie is probably town but these arent good reactionary posts and this set himself up for a world of absurdity.
P#88 mimi still feels really flat here
P#89 bunny is having fun. Hes relaxed. Hes engagin people with humor.
P#97 red neurax wants to pass a potato to damo. This somewhat feels attached to bo-kak in the overt call outs on damo taking opposing stances on the same slot.
P#98 and P#99 are food entries. Doesnt seem scummy. It fits with how everyone who seems non evil has entered. Im biased, and probably making too many logical leaps now to really town this
So by p6 im at
Town
Bozo
Bunny
Damo
Dip and war for later fight w jamie
Jamie for later fight w dip
Food P#102 P#103 boost food above null for me
Dream
Red Neurax
Kak
Bo
Mimi
Page 6
Food makes a crude comment. Hes provocative and thats not his scum game as far as I recall.
P#116 is not great. We always kill red when hes town and somehow he may yet live when hes not. Cuz this aint it.
P#120 is a better post by Bo and hes grumpy. Usually grouchy bo is town bo. But I also dont think his posts are very towny. So this doesnt improve much in my opinion.
P#121 and P#122 bo is moving into Gran Torino mode telling kids to get off his lawn.
“Not exclaiming how upset you are to see me back in this hellhole again on your first post tells me that either you are scum or you finally developed some self control, and I don’t believe that is possible”
Bo strikes a chord to just pivot into grumpy play and it doesnt really seem to make sense what caused this.
Chaqa arrival
P#125 and P#126 nothing to glean from this. Hes playing a joust with mafia or pretending to play a joust with mafia. Will need to see how ghug read chaqa and if ghug didnt trust it then the nk on ghug incriminates chaqa sometimes. Otherwise this is NAI and i cant read into it.
P#133-P#135 damo is town. I think it looks like town because town damo
Likes mech and this is a good setup for a mech hoe like damo to work
The corner.
P#139 is really mapped out and somewhat scary as maf would try to path out their wincon. But Idk if that post helps maf in any way. And damo doesnt feel scummy for producing that.
P#141 is a good entry by control v. Already showing signs of having thoughts about players and their motives.
P#142 dream is quick to be reactive to control v pressure. I dont think dream is paranoid about being mentioned by mafia there it looks more like dream doesnt wanna have his name mentioned period.
Jamie is loud, Jamie is defensive here. Jamie is grumpy.
P#153 I actually like from rdr. Not bad and nothing forced.
I cant remember if rdr prioritizes ghug deaths early. I cant read rdr very well historically. But this is a decent start and id shake the mans hand.
Page 9
Everything bunny and damo and bozo do feels objectively town aligned and you can pry my corpse off their graves when my day comes but aint nobody touchin my rabbit friend this game. Damo and bozo are the mech hoes and this trend is usually a positive town result.
Jamie posts are really anger fueled and seemed annoyed at being here p#179 among numerous examples of just not wanting to spend posts questioning people. Its maybe putting jamie out of my townreads now.
P#183 is heavy handed from dip and seems jaded. Its annoying me and that probably means its a townie being a doof
P#185 is great however and dip may have a point
P#190 is not good from dip at all but he might really think its a good point.
P#198 Jamie is swimming off into a performative swimming pool of angst about anything mentioning his name that doesnt praise him and call him a hero. Its what I expect from Jamie as any alignment. And he still isnt very curious about people yet.
P#203 is a place town Jamie would express concern. And thats me now!
P#207 is a great look from damo who is taken aback by it. Great look because it makes sense damo would not be paranoid of worcej lurk factor
Jamie is seemingly just spamming the game with anything but solving and hes burning posts on trying to push a snarky vibe rather than hawkishly chasing down his scumreads or things he finds out of sync with his understanding
P#221 jamie does not give a fuck about anything but joking this game and is still wasting posts on jokes and crude angles to steer mech talk
P#224 jamie still wants dip to feel bad for talking about him. Bunny subtly defending jamie in P#223 but this is easy to be a real thought. I dont know if bunny is reacting to dips post because his name is on it or if its because the idea is tinfoil.
P#226 - #227 is jamie finally deciding to go hard back at dip. This feels barely towny from jamie as it finally isnt shitposts.
P#231 is a good question from Bunny but doesnt rule out being teamed to Jamie. Unlikely and it can just be real curiousity.
By this point im at
Bozo
Damo
Bunny
Food
Control V
Dip
Chaqa
Jamie
Dream
Bo
Red
mimi
P#249 is a better post by mimi. Problem is its the first post that is actually interesting. Before that nothing was all that moving or compelling.
P#273 by rdr is towny. Dont agree with the opinion per se but I can see town rdr saying it. Creeping out of the darkness he strikes. And town rdr usually is straightforward not waxxing.
Hi rdr! :)
Jamie and Dip battle is now a War
Jip and War keep quacking. People keep ignoring.
This is where I saw as a spectator what led me to think their battle was v/v and perhaps Jamie got it into that place but for whatever reason he seemed to have little desire to ask people questions up to that point.
I find mimi - bo - dream - red scummier than the loudness from
jamie. At least up to page 15.
Page 16 now
P#284 is rdr town imo again. Straightforward and his chime ins dont seem nefarious or ill begotten
p#294 from bo is okayish. I dont understand what scumslip occurred so its a reasonable ask.
P#300 is bo being frank and doesnt move anything for me.
P#301 why chaqa. This is interesting. I had forgotten chaqa existed by this point.
Bo actually looks better this page in calling everyone dumb.
Will posts are ok I guess?
p#316 feels like its late to the party where bo looked bad and wants bo to go back to the scummy looking crowd
P#322 will is mafia. Thats a shitty read. Will defends mimi in post p#319 and kak in P#320 and both feel deliberately forced to protect scum partners who are not shiny yet.
Will defends Jamie. Hammers away at dip and will does rise up to the task.
Now jamie mutes Dip
“Ok wait so Dip usually has very weird tinfoils that much is true but like I’ve never seen a tinfoil of his this tinfoilly
Usually when I see town dip doing his thing there is a method to teh madness but this is different. Maybe scum Dip trying to imitate his town game”
This is a little bit of will trying to fit the square peg in a round hole. Essentially saying this is scummy because “oh uhhh maybe dip got better at copying his towngame - yea lets go with that”
Dip calls will scum now in P#352 and im inclined to agree. Now im at
town
Bozo
Damo
Food
Bunny
Ctrl V
Dip
Jamie
Dream
Bo
Will
Red
Mimi
Bo moves up slightly Will begins to look evil. Jamie is ehhhhh
P#358 bo looks good and finally seems townyish
Page 19
Bo votes Bunny not sure why he votes Bunny now when it felt like he was about to vote will
Dip is loud
Everyone is loud
Mimi - dream - red are nowhere to be seen.
P#375 is not very good red still looks scummy
Page 20!
I read 20 pages now! Yay me.
P#398 ghug thinks bo seems fine. Maybe ghug is right.
P#411 by mimi aint that great again. Mimi just still feels like mafia
What can I say? I'm survivin'
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Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
To which he would say something inconsequential as well.DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:46 pmI guess it was just poorly phrased then, but what I meant was more like "tell us why we shouldn't vote you off today"bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:43 pmWhat was he going to tell you from a question like "how does being scumread feel" that would have been impactful to you? I just don't get it. And I don't care for a valid line of questioning being dismissed, either.DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:37 pmI just wanted to hear his case for himself but if he doesn't care to make it then whatever
You voted for him, and you did so essentially when Kaka told you to change your vote. You didn't explain the change other than by noting that the rdr vote didn't gain the traction you wanted despite it being so early in the day. Why did you vote for Chaqa, and what makes Chaqa a better vote to you than rdr? You only voted for rdr for three hours before bailing, and didn't even stick with it for half the day. Why?DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:27 pmWell, even if it’s normal for him, it’s certainly unhelpful. Nevertheless there doesn’t seem to be any traction on this wagon, so I will ##vote Chaqa instead.Kakarroto wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:22 pmdon't think it'S RD. That behaviour is pretty normal for him, so that's very NAIDreamTrawler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:36 pm
This is the third time rdrivera has shown up, voted someone with minimal explanation, and then dipped. Feels sus.
##vote rdrivera2005
For what it's worth, I don't disagree with your assessment on rdr from what I remember of him, but like I told Kaka I should probably reread him again.
Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
##vote mimi
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Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
I'm still down to vote for most of these people. Specifically Will, Chaqa, Red, Rdrivera. If people think Rdrivera is just being his usual self (I wouldn't know) then I guess that's whatever but I have found his votes to be completely random (why Yavuzovic out of the 5 people he mentioned??).DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:15 pmI would like to vote within the following pool today: Will, Chaqa, Red, worcej, Bunny, rdrivera, yavuzovic.
I want to give Yavuzovic and Brainbomb at least a day to see how they act. And Bunny being on my list is mostly vibes based.
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Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
But anyway, I am changing my vote again, sorry Bo. I found your post at the top of page 48 to be well reasoned and I have felt suspicious of Will for a while.DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:35 pmI'm still down to vote for most of these people. Specifically Will, Chaqa, Red, Rdrivera. If people think Rdrivera is just being his usual self (I wouldn't know) then I guess that's whatever but I have found his votes to be completely random (why Yavuzovic out of the 5 people he mentioned??).DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:15 pmI would like to vote within the following pool today: Will, Chaqa, Red, worcej, Bunny, rdrivera, yavuzovic.
I want to give Yavuzovic and Brainbomb at least a day to see how they act. And Bunny being on my list is mostly vibes based.
Chaqa is kind of sus but partially due to low participation and not understanding mechanics. Will has not provided a good explanation for his D1 voting pattern (I thought Bunny was mafia is not a good answer) and he's continuing to switch votes as if to start random wagons of town.
And despite Control V's vendetta against me I don't think Control V is the best daykill here and I feel like people who are saying that are trying to earn my goodwill.
##vote JustAGuyNamedWill
Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
I feel brain is lurking. He isn't posting as much as usual ...brainbomb wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:20 pmPage 1 notes
Mimi posts dont look great. Bunny posts seem cheerful in P#11 and mimi posts like P#10 seem rushed to get something out there. I understand why town bunny would post playfully early. I dont understand why town mimi would need a vote on foodcoats.
P#19 is nothing of consequence. Suppose any align could say that. I dont understand this posts purpose in the big schema.
Dreams posts arent very thought out. Just seem a little meh. I do like P#20 for its casual interest in talking about potatoes. But its not really towny by any stretch of imagination. I can understand why dream would want to post about potatoes as any alignment.
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P#21 post by kak is kind of hard to read. I dont understand the purpose of the post. Some story he is telling for himself I guess? This post doesnt seem very towny.
P#22 and P#23 by damo are okay. I dont understand the purpose of what he is doing. I could speculate that he wouldnt do this as mafia or that he wouldnt say this about his teammates but I just simply dont understand them. That said they are just okay ish.
P#24 not sure why dream defends mimi there. What was silly about voting food? I dont understand the purpose behind this defense.
P#26 kak is talking about food with dream t. Another NAI post. This is slightly better than the previous kak post as it actually gets into the foodie posting.
P#27 is mentioning a player who isnt here. I dont understand the purpose of this mimi post.
P#30 is pretty sudden snap into serious.
“hmm, it's pretty quiet
Bunny, what do you think of damo discrediting you (and mimi) without him voting you? Do you think he has ulterior motives here? Or do you think it's just a silly joke?”
Kak takes a very sharp angle of attack here which seems like a wedge effort on damo and bunny. Characterizing damo behavior here as a discredit when having reread P#23 I admit it feels lazy or a bit absurd but I simply dont see a discredit here. This feels like a reach by kak in my opinion.
P#31 by bo is right after and seems just as bad. Somehow bo agrees with the notion that bunny is bussing mimi and none of what bunny was doing looks like bussing to me at all.
Way too early scumleans are mimi-bo-kak and maybe dream but dream seems a bit more off the grid and whatever is happening around damo seems like dream is not consciously involved
P#32 bozo is just already town. Hes in his laser focus zone of setup angling and even though hes failed doing this as scum I like to just cement bozo in as townread #1.
Town
bozo
Probably Town
Bunny
Null damo, dream
Scummy
Mimi
Bo
Kak
P#39 talk between bo and damo seems like this isnt mafia talking in the thread as ive seen worse. Worth watching for later as damo is good at duping by defacto engagement. Bo looks a little less evil there.
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Bo post at top of page P#41 is very dire. P#42 is giving off very weird feelings. Right after bozo wants to talk mech bo seems to want to not do so? I do not understand these posts by bo.
P#46 and P#47 clarifying how many potato poppers seems ok. No opinion on if thats towny for dream but bozo still strikes a chord here as town.
P#48 is very gross. I dont understand bo comment to mimi and mimi response is very not towny looking. Highly concerning dialogue here.
P#50 another throwaway post by kak who feels really flat and not exuberant so far.
P#53 is just bo thanking mimi for pledging to try to scum harder? I dont see why this is a good exchange between the two.
P#55 and P#56 dream is staggering at coming up with thoughts about the game which its early, its shitposter time, its alrght this can happen. I dont understand the point of what he is doing yet.
P#57 and P#58 bozo just continues to shine as all around him seems very off and strange
P#60 is a great entry by Jamie. Hes cheerful and doesnt show up doing anything that annoys me.
P#62 is the best post from mimi so far and thats… idk. I finally see a post I understand its motivation!
P#66 and P#68 dip is ready to play he has a potato and hes here to get down to brass tax. But P#71 is a strange early needle at Jamie. I know from reading this game casually that this later blows up into something annoying that looks very v/v and its easy to forget this type of stuff but Dip is being annoying this game. But I understand that can be more like his town game in fact his town game is just far more grumpy and focused than his mafia style
P#72 bozo is just stuck in neutral on setup stuff hes still making sense and educating people and thats still good. Mimi is trying to feed off of that energy and seem like she cares about what he says in P#73. Now I could be wrong on mimi and im just not giving her a chance.
Mimi sweet potato claim, the nk on ghug and her comments about foodcoats being in wolfchat all feel like mimi just wants to openly wolf this game and ill make that argument later if it still feels true.
P#75 bunny is very town. And it is very common for town bunny to mistake scum talking to him
As also being on his side. Regardless this is not a dialogue that looks like two scum having a cup of tea in my opinion. Bunny is sharing his views while kak is not.
P#77 doesnt vibe with me. I dont know what bunny finds strong about dreams play.
P#79 spot on bunny. Bo is scummy and this is a correct argument.
P#80 is amusing and makes me think bunny is joking. But if serious I think bunny is also town for actually saying that. It is likely to incite Jamie who will demand to know why…
P#81 and P#82 is not bunnys scum style in my opinion. Bunny is joking or teasing people. Throwing things at folks in a chill way.
P#84 P#85 P#86 is just awful. Jamie is probably town but these arent good reactionary posts and this set himself up for a world of absurdity.
P#88 mimi still feels really flat here
P#89 bunny is having fun. Hes relaxed. Hes engagin people with humor.
P#97 red neurax wants to pass a potato to damo. This somewhat feels attached to bo-kak in the overt call outs on damo taking opposing stances on the same slot.
P#98 and P#99 are food entries. Doesnt seem scummy. It fits with how everyone who seems non evil has entered. Im biased, and probably making too many logical leaps now to really town this
So by p6 im at
Town
Bozo
Bunny
Damo
Dip and war for later fight w jamie
Jamie for later fight w dip
Food P#102 P#103 boost food above null for me
Dream
Red Neurax
Kak
Bo
Mimi
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Food makes a crude comment. Hes provocative and thats not his scum game as far as I recall.
P#116 is not great. We always kill red when hes town and somehow he may yet live when hes not. Cuz this aint it.
P#120 is a better post by Bo and hes grumpy. Usually grouchy bo is town bo. But I also dont think his posts are very towny. So this doesnt improve much in my opinion.
P#121 and P#122 bo is moving into Gran Torino mode telling kids to get off his lawn.
“Not exclaiming how upset you are to see me back in this hellhole again on your first post tells me that either you are scum or you finally developed some self control, and I don’t believe that is possible”
Bo strikes a chord to just pivot into grumpy play and it doesnt really seem to make sense what caused this.
Chaqa arrival
P#125 and P#126 nothing to glean from this. Hes playing a joust with mafia or pretending to play a joust with mafia. Will need to see how ghug read chaqa and if ghug didnt trust it then the nk on ghug incriminates chaqa sometimes. Otherwise this is NAI and i cant read into it.
P#133-P#135 damo is town. I think it looks like town because town damo
Likes mech and this is a good setup for a mech hoe like damo to work
The corner.
P#139 is really mapped out and somewhat scary as maf would try to path out their wincon. But Idk if that post helps maf in any way. And damo doesnt feel scummy for producing that.
P#141 is a good entry by control v. Already showing signs of having thoughts about players and their motives.
P#142 dream is quick to be reactive to control v pressure. I dont think dream is paranoid about being mentioned by mafia there it looks more like dream doesnt wanna have his name mentioned period.
Jamie is loud, Jamie is defensive here. Jamie is grumpy.
P#153 I actually like from rdr. Not bad and nothing forced.
I cant remember if rdr prioritizes ghug deaths early. I cant read rdr very well historically. But this is a decent start and id shake the mans hand.
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Everything bunny and damo and bozo do feels objectively town aligned and you can pry my corpse off their graves when my day comes but aint nobody touchin my rabbit friend this game. Damo and bozo are the mech hoes and this trend is usually a positive town result.
Jamie posts are really anger fueled and seemed annoyed at being here p#179 among numerous examples of just not wanting to spend posts questioning people. Its maybe putting jamie out of my townreads now.
P#183 is heavy handed from dip and seems jaded. Its annoying me and that probably means its a townie being a doof
P#185 is great however and dip may have a point
P#190 is not good from dip at all but he might really think its a good point.
P#198 Jamie is swimming off into a performative swimming pool of angst about anything mentioning his name that doesnt praise him and call him a hero. Its what I expect from Jamie as any alignment. And he still isnt very curious about people yet.
P#203 is a place town Jamie would express concern. And thats me now!
P#207 is a great look from damo who is taken aback by it. Great look because it makes sense damo would not be paranoid of worcej lurk factor
Jamie is seemingly just spamming the game with anything but solving and hes burning posts on trying to push a snarky vibe rather than hawkishly chasing down his scumreads or things he finds out of sync with his understanding
P#221 jamie does not give a fuck about anything but joking this game and is still wasting posts on jokes and crude angles to steer mech talk
P#224 jamie still wants dip to feel bad for talking about him. Bunny subtly defending jamie in P#223 but this is easy to be a real thought. I dont know if bunny is reacting to dips post because his name is on it or if its because the idea is tinfoil.
P#226 - #227 is jamie finally deciding to go hard back at dip. This feels barely towny from jamie as it finally isnt shitposts.
P#231 is a good question from Bunny but doesnt rule out being teamed to Jamie. Unlikely and it can just be real curiousity.
By this point im at
Bozo
Damo
Bunny
Food
Control V
Dip
Chaqa
Jamie
Dream
Bo
Red
mimi
P#249 is a better post by mimi. Problem is its the first post that is actually interesting. Before that nothing was all that moving or compelling.
P#273 by rdr is towny. Dont agree with the opinion per se but I can see town rdr saying it. Creeping out of the darkness he strikes. And town rdr usually is straightforward not waxxing.
Hi rdr! :)
Jamie and Dip battle is now a War
Jip and War keep quacking. People keep ignoring.
This is where I saw as a spectator what led me to think their battle was v/v and perhaps Jamie got it into that place but for whatever reason he seemed to have little desire to ask people questions up to that point.
I find mimi - bo - dream - red scummier than the loudness from
jamie. At least up to page 15.
Page 16 now
P#284 is rdr town imo again. Straightforward and his chime ins dont seem nefarious or ill begotten
p#294 from bo is okayish. I dont understand what scumslip occurred so its a reasonable ask.
P#300 is bo being frank and doesnt move anything for me.
P#301 why chaqa. This is interesting. I had forgotten chaqa existed by this point.
Bo actually looks better this page in calling everyone dumb.
Will posts are ok I guess?
p#316 feels like its late to the party where bo looked bad and wants bo to go back to the scummy looking crowd
P#322 will is mafia. Thats a shitty read. Will defends mimi in post p#319 and kak in P#320 and both feel deliberately forced to protect scum partners who are not shiny yet.
Will defends Jamie. Hammers away at dip and will does rise up to the task.
Now jamie mutes Dip
“Ok wait so Dip usually has very weird tinfoils that much is true but like I’ve never seen a tinfoil of his this tinfoilly
Usually when I see town dip doing his thing there is a method to teh madness but this is different. Maybe scum Dip trying to imitate his town game”
This is a little bit of will trying to fit the square peg in a round hole. Essentially saying this is scummy because “oh uhhh maybe dip got better at copying his towngame - yea lets go with that”
Dip calls will scum now in P#352 and im inclined to agree. Now im at
town
Bozo
Damo
Food
Bunny
Ctrl V
Dip
Jamie
Dream
Bo
Will
Red
Mimi
Bo moves up slightly Will begins to look evil. Jamie is ehhhhh
P#358 bo looks good and finally seems townyish
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Bo votes Bunny not sure why he votes Bunny now when it felt like he was about to vote will
Dip is loud
Everyone is loud
Mimi - dream - red are nowhere to be seen.
P#375 is not very good red still looks scummy
Page 20!
I read 20 pages now! Yay me.
P#398 ghug thinks bo seems fine. Maybe ghug is right.
P#411 by mimi aint that great again. Mimi just still feels like mafia
(but seriously, how did you lose me in your reads?)
Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
I have no issue voting Will if it comes down to it but I prefer Chaqa. No need to apologize for changing your vote.DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:36 pmBut anyway, I am changing my vote again, sorry Bo. I found your post at the top of page 48 to be well reasoned and I have felt suspicious of Will for a while.DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:35 pmI'm still down to vote for most of these people. Specifically Will, Chaqa, Red, Rdrivera. If people think Rdrivera is just being his usual self (I wouldn't know) then I guess that's whatever but I have found his votes to be completely random (why Yavuzovic out of the 5 people he mentioned??).DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:15 pmI would like to vote within the following pool today: Will, Chaqa, Red, worcej, Bunny, rdrivera, yavuzovic.
I want to give Yavuzovic and Brainbomb at least a day to see how they act. And Bunny being on my list is mostly vibes based.
Chaqa is kind of sus but partially due to low participation and not understanding mechanics. Will has not provided a good explanation for his D1 voting pattern (I thought Bunny was mafia is not a good answer) and he's continuing to switch votes as if to start random wagons of town.
And despite Control V's vendetta against me I don't think Control V is the best daykill here and I feel like people who are saying that are trying to earn my goodwill.
##vote JustAGuyNamedWill
I don't know what this means. Can you explain it?
"I don't think Control V is the best daykill here and I feel like people who are saying that are trying to earn my goodwill."
Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
I have you as very clearly mafia kak
My scumreads are
Mimi
Red
Kakk
Dream
At the moment
It doesnt matter as my vote is powerless today anyway
My scumreads are
Mimi
Red
Kakk
Dream
At the moment
It doesnt matter as my vote is powerless today anyway
What can I say? I'm survivin'
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Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
2 ppl accusing me of lurking lol
Thats really amusing tbh
Thats really amusing tbh
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Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
Control V’s biggest impact on the game has been scumreading me. The wagon against CV feels a bit forced, especially with Red Neurax saying CV is sus and then dipping. It feels like at least one of the people scumreading or voting for Control V is trying to get me to join the wagon on a misguided townie.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:44 pmI have no issue voting Will if it comes down to it but I prefer Chaqa. No need to apologize for changing your vote.DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:36 pmBut anyway, I am changing my vote again, sorry Bo. I found your post at the top of page 48 to be well reasoned and I have felt suspicious of Will for a while.DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:35 pm
I'm still down to vote for most of these people. Specifically Will, Chaqa, Red, Rdrivera. If people think Rdrivera is just being his usual self (I wouldn't know) then I guess that's whatever but I have found his votes to be completely random (why Yavuzovic out of the 5 people he mentioned??).
I want to give Yavuzovic and Brainbomb at least a day to see how they act. And Bunny being on my list is mostly vibes based.
Chaqa is kind of sus but partially due to low participation and not understanding mechanics. Will has not provided a good explanation for his D1 voting pattern (I thought Bunny was mafia is not a good answer) and he's continuing to switch votes as if to start random wagons of town.
And despite Control V's vendetta against me I don't think Control V is the best daykill here and I feel like people who are saying that are trying to earn my goodwill.
##vote JustAGuyNamedWill
I don't know what this means. Can you explain it?
"I don't think Control V is the best daykill here and I feel like people who are saying that are trying to earn my goodwill."
Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
well, thanks for clarifying. I'm pretty sure you are wrong about most, though Red is a good candidate, so 1 out of 4 is fine for the start. Hope you catch up with the rest of the game fast
also
mine was purely comedical

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Why am I wrong about them?
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Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
hmm, how sure are you we have another Antonius?DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:50 pmControl V’s biggest impact on the game has been scumreading me. The wagon against CV feels a bit forced, especially with Red Neurax saying CV is sus and then dipping. It feels like at least one of the people scumreading or voting for Control V is trying to get me to join the wagon on a misguided townie.bo_sox48 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:44 pmI have no issue voting Will if it comes down to it but I prefer Chaqa. No need to apologize for changing your vote.DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:36 pm
But anyway, I am changing my vote again, sorry Bo. I found your post at the top of page 48 to be well reasoned and I have felt suspicious of Will for a while.
Chaqa is kind of sus but partially due to low participation and not understanding mechanics. Will has not provided a good explanation for his D1 voting pattern (I thought Bunny was mafia is not a good answer) and he's continuing to switch votes as if to start random wagons of town.
And despite Control V's vendetta against me I don't think Control V is the best daykill here and I feel like people who are saying that are trying to earn my goodwill.
##vote JustAGuyNamedWill
I don't know what this means. Can you explain it?
"I don't think Control V is the best daykill here and I feel like people who are saying that are trying to earn my goodwill."
should Cicero follow Metellus Cimber, this time around?
guess I should as I'm the writer of The Willippics
##vote JustAGuyNamedWill
Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
well, I'm town, for starters
and I think both mimi and Dream have a high chance of being town too
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Why
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Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
This and your vote will probably continue to make Control V think we are paired, but I agree, I have you and Mimi as my second and third highest townreads after Bozo. I think you both handled the EoD and nighttime situations with your special potatoes in a townie way.
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yay will wagon
##vote will
will tried to push me yesterday
##vote will
will tried to push me yesterday
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Re: Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)
Dream is pretty similar to last game, I don't see any abnormalities or maliciousness from him. A bit more silent, like maybe on 90 or 95% of the settings, but with the same parameter.
I also don't see any agenda or the like from mimi, and how the wagon formed I don't think mafia would gain that traction. Sure a little nervousness at the beginning, but that's probably because of the potato miim had
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