Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[Kakarroto]

yeah im not sharing my other thoughts right now im not gonna play all my cards this early

When are you going to reveal your cards?

idk man. i have revealed my suspicions of control v but i don't think there's much to go off on anybody as of right now. for me at least, i don't have a real idea of what a good plan is

I think most of us don't have any plan, we just wing it. The more you let go of some restraints you have, the more natural and intuitive the game becomes. Maybe that's not your style for the game, but going away from having strict thought out plans to just be natural helped my game (at least i think it did)

haven't seen much of paste too, as a new player here (though experienced on other platforms), so how would you go on to have a deeper look? Mine is normally just asking that person, but I think you should do more too if someone is sus to you.

So in that thought of train: @Control V what are your thoughts about Red's suspicion of you? Do you think Red is more likely mafia or town? And, since I can't remember you saying anything in that regard, what are your top town and/or (best and) mafia reads, currently?

[Kakarroto]

Drunk Bunny (TM) is back!

I had 3 beets after 7 months of no drinking and I’m here to solve th game!

yay, drunk bunny is back \o/

[Kakarroto]

Is anyone else unable to access the bot on their phones btw?

Try typing this:
https://mafia.peterlund.se

I can only access when https:// is included.

offtopic, but I just noticed that we have now (at least) 4 players that are on a supply center (well, maybe we need to move Jamie a bit to the north) on the diplomacy board. Room for more in the pool that haven't disclosed their location

Now I kinda want a diplomacy game where we start with only that one supply center we're living in and play from there (probably need a 'choose your unit' for the starting phase)

anyway, have you read the game yet, yav? Anything special you've noticed?

[Kakarroto]

Wait...Why did you make no impression on my day 1?

Subbed in for foodcoats.

NICE!

Why did food makeno impression? I need toreread him...

are you caught up?

yeah, I got the same out of food. Don't know what's going on, but I kinda lean towards whatever that was that had him sub out probably caused the result of food having no impression. So I hope yav can clear up that spot (yav, if you are mafia, you can just claim, we won't vote you out ... at least today >:-) )

[Kakarroto]

About in order from most to least (with a bunch of null or nullish):

D&W - I think his chaotic and irretic behaviour here is a good sign that he is town. It doesn't feel like there is an agenda behind his postings or anything hidden. Maybe not lockdown, but very high.

Dream - he's similar to the last game I played with him. A little less maybe, but the big picture strokes are the same. Wouldn't vote for Dream tomorrow

Jamie - haven't seen a sign of maf-Jamie here, feel pretty good about him. Still I don't want to throw caution into the wind, he's good at hiding as mafia.

RD - I like what RD is posting, feels like logical town RD here.

bozo - his math expedition with damo makes it so they aren't mafia together, and while he feels a bit detached, that's normal for bozo. Should have a look later how he voted and stuff, that would probably reveal much more about his alignment.

damo - had damo higher at first, but after ghug noted that damo had this spreadsheet info for the potatos before, I'm now much more skeptical about him, since bad math is a sign of mafia damo. It could be just an honest mistake, twice, but that made me cautious here. At least I think he isn't mafia with bozo together, I think, or they wouldn't both have posted that kind of math.

mimi - the wagon forming on mimi makes me think that mimi is town, and behaviour looks ok too.

bo - a bit of his behaviour had me questioning him, looks solid enough

Bunny - posts much, don't feel too sure here, but probably town

food - I have no impression of foods game, he was the eptitome of null to me here. That substitution surprised me though, but I guess yavu has gotten a blank slate?

ghug - feels a bit retracted from what I know from him, but I haven't played with ghug in a while, so maybe it's just him changing. Don't feel malice here, but I can't say I feel especially town about him either.

Control V - might be because he's new here, but I haven't gained much from 'Paste'. As usual I give new people the first day off, but that is over now. Want to get to know much more here.

Chaqa - not much to see here, Chaqa here is very null. The early low posting however is something town Chaqa does, I do not want to give him credit for because maf-Chaqa knows that and will hide behind that. In my PoE until he proves he is town.

worcej - I had worse in memory than what he actually posted, much more null than sus in retrospect. First impression of him was that he was hiding, but in retrospect, he's more like detached and maybe bored, which can be town worcej.

Will - feels like he can change his opinion here on a dime. He early declared a (probably soft) town read for Bunny and me, and after a bit that completely vanished. Other examples of that is all over his game. Sure, it's good to not tunnel and have an open mind, but Will seems to be another extreme from his last game, where his reads looked pretty frozen. I think he very well could've changed his approach from last game so to not fall into the same track.

Red - I don't like how he blocks all information from his reads, that's either unhelpful town or a mafia tactic.

goddamn it kaka! did you kill ghug so he couldn't yell at you about this?!

no? I only had the couch potato and I didn't give it to ghug, so I couldn't kill him either way

[Kakarroto]

I think the CP should be tracked the same way as the SP and HPs, I don't see why we would want to lose track of it.

then, should the one holding the couch potato, in the last ten minutes or so, or when the holder can't be at EoD, before they go, vote "no kill" or themselves or something? That way we should practically always be sure who holds it and have no need for any crumbs or outings from the sender

and if people don't do stuff like that, or at least officially claim, then we have a clear pool of people who is mafia? Like, if the one I send it is mafia and they nk me tonight, and keep quiet to disentangle any information, at least we would have an idea where they hiding? Because town wouldn't have any incentive to keep quiet about it or not to comply with that kind of tracking?

I think is is a good idea for the CP holder to reveal they have it before EOD, because town not being sure of the real vote count can only help the mafia. If they don't, I think the one who passed it to them should reveal who has before EOD. I think it can wait until close to EOD so the player does not have to go the entire day with everyone knowing their vote does not count.

yeah sounds good to me too. Will have a look to inform if my target failed to report, probably like 5 minutes before EoD or so. That should give at least some info

[Kakarroto]

What happens if someone is holding potatoes and they die, and they still have unexploded potatoes. Do they take the potatoes with them or are them thrown somehere?

if I'm not wrong, if they had it already in the phase they die, they get sent to their chosen targets. If a potato is thrown to a person that is slotted to die, they go either to a secondary target (if prior chosen by the thrower), or if there is no secondary target, or that secondary target dies too, it gets randomized by the GM

[Kakarroto]

D1:
BunnyGo: HP, Chaqa
Chaqa: HP
DiplomacyandWarfare: HP, Red Neurax
DreamTrawler: HP
ghug: HP, ?
Jamie: HP
Kakarroto: CP
miminena: SP, bozo
Red Neurax: HP

N1:
bozo: SP, no HPs
bo_sox: ?
BunnyGo: ?
Chaqa: 2 HPs
Control V: ?
damo: 1 HP
DiplomacyandWarfare: ?
DreamTrawler: ?
Jamie: 2 HPs
Just: ?
Kakarroto: ?
miminena: ?
rdrivera: ?
Red Neurax: ?
worcej: ?
yavuzovic: ?

Can everyone please provide their N1 HP possession status (no targets yet), and D1 HP holders provide your D1 targets, if you have not already done so. Sorry if I missed anyone's information.

sadly, I got the munchies and ate my stashed rations of potato salad, so after I threw away the couch potato, and nobody donated one to me for the night, I had none left

I might or might not have one right now

[damo666]

Wait so what happens to the hot potato I gave him

Also Bo I hope you enjoy your present

...I'm pretty sure that someone who had a potato would have checked this by now and therefore chaqa is lying

All I know is the potatoes randomly activate on some night and have a 25% chance after that to explode

I assumed that happened before I passed them off? Did I kill ghug on accident ?

a) scum NKd ghug and no potato exploded (90%)

or

b) scum tried to kill Bozo and failed and ghug was killed by potato explosion (10%).

[rdrivera2005]

I didn't have any potato on D1 and N1.

I like the three current wagons, Red have been avoiding giving opinions educational is scummy. And Chaqa and Worcej didn't made anything to get a townread which they usually do as town.

I would add Control and Yav to my vote list for today.

##vote Yav

[rdrivera2005]

...I'm pretty sure that someone who had a potato would have checked this by now and therefore chaqa is lying

All I know is the potatoes randomly activate on some night and have a 25% chance after that to explode

I assumed that happened before I passed them off? Did I kill ghug on accident ?

a) scum NKd ghug and no potato exploded (90%)

or

b) scum tried to kill Bozo and failed and ghug was killed by potato explosion (10%).

I think Bozo would have disclosed the b) so it's a) or b)Ghug was double killed by scum and HP.

[yavuzovic]

D1:
BunnyGo: HP, Chaqa
Chaqa: HP
DiplomacyandWarfare: HP, Red Neurax
DreamTrawler: HP
ghug: HP, ?
Jamie: HP
Kakarroto: CP
miminena: SP, bozo
Red Neurax: HP

N1:
bozo: SP, no HPs
bo_sox: ?
BunnyGo: ?
Chaqa: 2 HPs
Control V: ?
damo: 1 HP
DiplomacyandWarfare: ?
DreamTrawler: ?
Jamie: 2 HPs
Just: ?
Kakarroto: ?
miminena: ?
rdrivera: ?
Red Neurax: ?
worcej: ?
yavuzovic: ?

Can everyone please provide their N1 HP possession status (no targets yet), and D1 HP holders provide your D1 targets, if you have not already done so. Sorry if I missed anyone's information.

I don't have any potato, and I think I should ask GM about what happened to my potato last night. I'm not informed about any potato.

[damo666]

All I know is the potatoes randomly activate on some night and have a 25% chance after that to explode

I assumed that happened before I passed them off? Did I kill ghug on accident ?

a) scum NKd ghug and no potato exploded (90%)

or

b) scum tried to kill Bozo and failed and ghug was killed by potato explosion (10%).

I think Bozo would have disclosed the b) so it's a) or b)Ghug was double killed by scum and HP.

Yes, you are right. Bozo would have been informed and since scum would already know he would immediately have disclosed so we know ghug was NKd and there are either 6 or 7 potatoes left.

[yavuzovic]

D1:
BunnyGo: HP, Chaqa
Chaqa: HP
DiplomacyandWarfare: HP, Red Neurax
DreamTrawler: HP
ghug: HP, ?
Jamie: HP
Kakarroto: CP
miminena: SP, bozo
Red Neurax: HP

N1:
bozo: SP, no HPs
bo_sox: ?
BunnyGo: ?
Chaqa: 2 HPs
Control V: ?
damo: 1 HP
DiplomacyandWarfare: ?
DreamTrawler: ?
Jamie: 2 HPs
Just: ?
Kakarroto: ?
miminena: ?
rdrivera: ?
Red Neurax: ?
worcej: ?
yavuzovic: ?

Can everyone please provide their N1 HP possession status (no targets yet), and D1 HP holders provide your D1 targets, if you have not already done so. Sorry if I missed anyone's information.

I don't have any potato, and I think I should ask GM about what happened to my potato last night. I'm not informed about any potato.

Sorry, I meant last day. I was only told that I don't hold any potato when I joined. And because the phase immediately changed as I joined I got confused.

[damo666]

@Bozo for your list Chaqq says he sent pot to ghug

[damo666]

@GM if a player subs in are they informed about their potato history. I assume yes otherwise they would be disadvantaged.

[yavuzovic]

@GM if a player subs in are they informed about their potato history. I assume yes otherwise they would be disadvantaged.

I asked with a direct message. I will claim once I'm informed.

[yavuzovic]

Can somebody summarize the fabricated tie you tried to make on D1. I tried to read but it's impossible to read the entire day in one sitting. I read kak's couch potato claim and and end of day messages, I can understand why you would tie it but it seems like there was no consensus for it.
Given Kak's vote was null, Dip's switch near the EoD breaks the tie and makes ND the lead, and only leaving to someone else after ND wagon attracts another player. This is strange behavior especially since himself is the second leading wagon.

[Jamiet99uk]

Anyone laid down some mechanics ideas yet?

Or are we doing the whole “don’t talk about the mechanics and just find scum” thing?

worcej has not indicated any interest in the answer to this.

##Vote Worcej

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote miminena
for the fabricated tie

Why did you vote for miminena after they claimed to have the SP?

Did you ever answer this?

D&W doesn't answer questions much. Only makes accusations.