Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[bozotheclown]

Bozo do you have any townreads, and do you have any scumreads?

The players I think are most likely to be town are DiplomacyandWarfare, miminena, DreamTrawler, damo, bo_sox, Chaqa, and you. For a number of the others, there is little to go on, but I don't have any strong scum reads yet.

like this post, but @bozo, why Chaqa? The rest I get (whether or not I agree).

It was based on I think only 2 posts, but immediately declaring to have a HP seemed like a town thing to do.

[Jamiet99uk]

The players I think are most likely to be town are DiplomacyandWarfare, miminena, DreamTrawler, damo, bo_sox, Chaqa, and you. For a number of the others, there is little to go on, but I don't have any strong scum reads yet.

like this post, but @bozo, why Chaqa? The rest I get (whether or not I agree).

It was based on I think only 2 posts, but immediately declaring to have a HP seemed like a town thing to do.

What about fake-claiming a HP?

It would be a very easy thing to fake as multiple HPs get passed around all the time.

[Red Neurax]

what was the reason for voting ND anyways

Isn’t it a little hypocritical for you to ask this having refused to contribute your own thoughts at all

yes, probably. but i didn't vote anybody out

[bo_sox48]

There has been some discussion about my late vote switch to red.

I moved off dip because he moved off mimi as I had said I would and also had as a by product the benefit of making a tie unlikely (even an accidental one).

I didn't want to vote any of the major wagons and in particular didn't want to vote ND because a) I didn't think he was scum & b) I think some of his voters were motivated by out of game reasons and I strongly think this is against the spirit of the game and was a way of registering my protest.

Picking Red to switch to was inconsequential.

I gave you an out with a better explanation and you didn’t take it. Town damo good

[Spartaculous]

##CALL GM: Is the rotten potato removed from the game if the holder gets killed?

Yes.

[bo_sox48]

The players I think are most likely to be town are DiplomacyandWarfare, miminena, DreamTrawler, damo, bo_sox, Chaqa, and you. For a number of the others, there is little to go on, but I don't have any strong scum reads yet.

like this post, but @bozo, why Chaqa? The rest I get (whether or not I agree).

It was based on I think only 2 posts, but immediately declaring to have a HP seemed like a town thing to do.

What exactly does claiming a hot potato do for town in the middle of D1? Until he reveals who he gave it to we don’t get any information from that. Is that a valid substitution for actually attempting to scumhunt?

[bo_sox48]

what was the reason for voting ND anyways

Isn’t it a little hypocritical for you to ask this having refused to contribute your own thoughts at all

yes, probably. but i didn't vote anybody out

I like you, you’re just the kind of absurdly self absorbed egomaniac I look for in a politician

[Chaqa]

I now have two hot potatoes

Nobody wants to share with me.

If I can split them up next time I'll give you one

[Chaqa]

what was the reason for voting ND anyways

I wouldn't want to speak ill of the dead

You called him a tool while he was alive.

Why did you vote him?

So ND stands for Notre Dame which is an Irish school in the US and in a potato game the Fighting Irish is too dangerous to live

[Chaqa]

like this post, but @bozo, why Chaqa? The rest I get (whether or not I agree).

It was based on I think only 2 posts, but immediately declaring to have a HP seemed like a town thing to do.

What about fake-claiming a HP?

It would be a very easy thing to fake as multiple HPs get passed around all the time.

Interested to see Bozo's response to this

[damo666]

like this post, but @bozo, why Chaqa? The rest I get (whether or not I agree).

It was based on I think only 2 posts, but immediately declaring to have a HP seemed like a town thing to do.

What about fake-claiming a HP?

It would be a very easy thing to fake as multiple HPs get passed around all the time.

What would be the scum advantage?

[bozotheclown]

like this post, but @bozo, why Chaqa? The rest I get (whether or not I agree).

It was based on I think only 2 posts, but immediately declaring to have a HP seemed like a town thing to do.

What about fake-claiming a HP?

It would be a very easy thing to fake as multiple HPs get passed around all the time.

If everyone provides the information on whether they were holding a HP D1, we have a good chance of knowing if anyone was fake claiming, with only a lack of information from ND making it not certain. I think a mafia member would be taking an unnecessary chance fake claiming it, so even if Chaqa was fake claiming, it still seems more likely to come from town than mafia. I am not saying it is conclusive, though, I was just answering BunnyGo's question about why I had Chaqa on my town reads list at the time.

[bozotheclown]

what was the reason for voting ND anyways

Isn’t it a little hypocritical for you to ask this having refused to contribute your own thoughts at all

yes, probably. but i didn't vote anybody out

Were you holding an HP on D1? I am not asking you to say who you passed it to if you did.

[bozotheclown]

like this post, but @bozo, why Chaqa? The rest I get (whether or not I agree).

It was based on I think only 2 posts, but immediately declaring to have a HP seemed like a town thing to do.

What exactly does claiming a hot potato do for town in the middle of D1? Until he reveals who he gave it to we don’t get any information from that. Is that a valid substitution for actually attempting to scumhunt?

It may not do anything for town immediately, but it is my opinion that keeping track of the HPs will benefit town in the long run, by preventing the mafia from secretly passing HPs to players they want to get rid of. For example, if we are able to clear any players with the SP, the mafia can't try to take them out with HPs without us knowing about it.

As for your second question, it seemed to me the a mafia holding a HP on D1 would want to keep it hidden until some consensus was reached on how to reveal the information.

Can you let us know if you were holding a HP D1?

[Red Neurax]

It was based on I think only 2 posts, but immediately declaring to have a HP seemed like a town thing to do.

What exactly does claiming a hot potato do for town in the middle of D1? Until he reveals who he gave it to we don’t get any information from that. Is that a valid substitution for actually attempting to scumhunt?

It may not do anything for town immediately, but it is my opinion that keeping track of the HPs will benefit town in the long run, by preventing the mafia from secretly passing HPs to players they want to get rid of. For example, if we are able to clear any players with the SP, the mafia can't try to take them out with HPs without us knowing about it.

As for your second question, it seemed to me the a mafia holding a HP on D1 would want to keep it hidden until some consensus was reached on how to reveal the information.

Can you let us know if you were holding a HP D1?

i was in fact holding a potato

[bozotheclown]

What exactly does claiming a hot potato do for town in the middle of D1? Until he reveals who he gave it to we don’t get any information from that. Is that a valid substitution for actually attempting to scumhunt?

It may not do anything for town immediately, but it is my opinion that keeping track of the HPs will benefit town in the long run, by preventing the mafia from secretly passing HPs to players they want to get rid of. For example, if we are able to clear any players with the SP, the mafia can't try to take them out with HPs without us knowing about it.

As for your second question, it seemed to me the a mafia holding a HP on D1 would want to keep it hidden until some consensus was reached on how to reveal the information.

Can you let us know if you were holding a HP D1?

i was in fact holding a potato

Thank you for the information.

[bozotheclown]

Unless I missed it, bo_sox, Control V, foodcoats, ghug, rdrivera, and worcej have not indicted if they were holding an HP on D1. Please let us know before N1 is over, or let us know if you have an objection to revealing this information. To be clear, if you had one, I am not asking you to reveal who you passed it to yet.

[Red Neurax]

where is control V?

[bozotheclown]

Oh I'm down for that. I wanted to give it to ND so it might blow up in his face but I think I'll settle for just voting him out.

##Vote ND

Reasoning?

He's a tool

If DreamTrawler had not asked you that, would you have failed to meet the posting requirement, or were you aware that you needed a fifth post?

[DreamTrawler]

Foodcoats has also been absent for a while.