Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Vote count 1.7

ND (4): Kakarroto, DreamTrawler, bozotheclown, Chaqa
DiplomacyandWarfare (3): foodcoats, Red Neurax, damo666
miminena (3): ghug, BunnyGo, DiplomacyandWarfare
DreamTrawler (2): Control V, ND
worcej (2): Jamiet99uk, miminena
Jamiet99uk (1): worcej
rdrivera2005 (1): bo_sox48
BunnyGo (1): JustAGuyNamedWill
bo_sox48 (1): rdrivera2005

ND is sitting on a baking sheet.

About 45 minutes remain.

[Kakarroto]

The trend toward only looking into and voting for high volume posters and ignoring lurkers even when half the roster is barely contributing if they are even meeting minimum requirements has me just about ready to townread everyone who is actually trying

yeh, I'm kinda guilty of that too. Hadn't fully recovered and was just mostly in bed yesterday when I came home, and in the morning my PC was down due to some uncalled update, so could only check in now, really.

So, anything you'd want to know?

Other than why you happened to show up and play when there was a wagon growing on you and more importantly why the people who were wagoning you magically decided you were all clear now when you showed up, no

coincidence. As people know I despise using the bot, using it makes me play worse, I've come to see. I was catching up for hours before I even came to that part, people could probably see since I don't hide my online status. I mean that thing in itself is not reliable, but I was here since before 3 pm my time and I came to that part around ... 6 pm I think? Did just take a while to ketch up

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

hi, im back

GM POST

Vote count 1.7

ND (4): Kakarroto, DreamTrawler, bozotheclown, Chaqa
DiplomacyandWarfare (3): foodcoats, Red Neurax, damo666
miminena (3): ghug, BunnyGo, DiplomacyandWarfare
DreamTrawler (2): Control V, ND
worcej (2): Jamiet99uk, miminena
Jamiet99uk (1): worcej
rdrivera2005 (1): bo_sox48
BunnyGo (1): JustAGuyNamedWill
bo_sox48 (1): rdrivera2005

ND is sitting on a baking sheet.

About 45 minutes remain.

now I don't have to check the bot

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why is ND a wagon?

[Kakarroto]

The trend toward only looking into and voting for high volume posters and ignoring lurkers even when half the roster is barely contributing if they are even meeting minimum requirements has me just about ready to townread everyone who is actually trying

yeh, I'm kinda guilty of that too. Hadn't fully recovered and was just mostly in bed yesterday when I came home, and in the morning my PC was down due to some uncalled update, so could only check in now, really.

So, anything you'd want to know?

Other than why you happened to show up and play when there was a wagon growing on you and more importantly why the people who were wagoning you magically decided you were all clear now when you showed up, no

oh and why people decided to leave? Probably they thought my posts were good enough to not get me D1, but you should ask that Will and Jamie

[worcej]

Oh I'm down for that. I wanted to give it to ND so it might blow up in his face but I think I'll settle for just voting him out.

##Vote ND

Reasoning?

He's a tool

How dare you want to kill the beloved ND!

I cannot and shan't let it happen.

##vote miminena

[Kakarroto]

Damo's doing weird Math is usually a towny sign.

Buy I guess it makes some sense and I don't have the time to check it.

I do concur with the first statement.

However when damo does false math it's usually a mafia sign. And I'm not getting why the chance goes down so much on D2, even lower the origin percentage ... and he said himself he didn't put the saving potato into account ... I really do want to see the math behind it

then again bozo has the same 19% for D2? Bozo, damo, how does that work?

The chance of an explosion drops D2 because there is a 25% chance that the only active potato will have already exploded N1.

thanks, others explained it too, noticed where I went wrong

[Kakarroto]

Has bozo talked about anything but mechs is the question

haven't noticed much. If I don't remember wrong, he has mimi as a townread?

but yeah @bozo who are your three highest maf-reads, currently?

@Will why don't you ask bozo more instead of just pointing that stuff out?

[DreamTrawler]

hi, im back

GM POST

Vote count 1.7

ND (4): Kakarroto, DreamTrawler, bozotheclown, Chaqa
DiplomacyandWarfare (3): foodcoats, Red Neurax, damo666
miminena (3): ghug, BunnyGo, DiplomacyandWarfare
DreamTrawler (2): Control V, ND
worcej (2): Jamiet99uk, miminena
Jamiet99uk (1): worcej
rdrivera2005 (1): bo_sox48
BunnyGo (1): JustAGuyNamedWill
bo_sox48 (1): rdrivera2005

ND is sitting on a baking sheet.

About 45 minutes remain.

now I don't have to check the bot

...
why is ND a wagon?

Low activity plus they were third on the wagon for me because I talked about game mechanics, but somehow didn't say anything about Damo and Bozo, who were discussing mechanics even more.

Also I personally am getting townie vibes from Mimi and you and would rather vote someone else D1.

[miminena]

Reasoning?

He's a tool

How dare you want to kill the beloved ND!

I cannot and shan't let it happen.

##vote miminena

oh hi worcej nice to see you here

any reasoning behind your vote on me or your earlier vote on jamie?

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Vote count 1.8

ND (4): Kakarroto, DreamTrawler, bozotheclown, Chaqa
miminena (4): ghug, BunnyGo, DiplomacyandWarfare, worcej
DiplomacyandWarfare (3): foodcoats, Red Neurax, damo666
DreamTrawler (2): Control V, ND
worcej (2): Jamiet99uk, miminena
rdrivera2005 (1): bo_sox48
BunnyGo (1): JustAGuyNamedWill
bo_sox48 (1): rdrivera2005

No one is about to be cooked.

About 25 minutes remain. This will likely be the penultimate vote count.

[Kakarroto]

hi, im back

GM POST

Vote count 1.7

ND (4): Kakarroto, DreamTrawler, bozotheclown, Chaqa
DiplomacyandWarfare (3): foodcoats, Red Neurax, damo666
miminena (3): ghug, BunnyGo, DiplomacyandWarfare
DreamTrawler (2): Control V, ND
worcej (2): Jamiet99uk, miminena
Jamiet99uk (1): worcej
rdrivera2005 (1): bo_sox48
BunnyGo (1): JustAGuyNamedWill
bo_sox48 (1): rdrivera2005

ND is sitting on a baking sheet.

About 45 minutes remain.

now I don't have to check the bot

...
why is ND a wagon?

Low activity plus they were third on the wagon for me because I talked about game mechanics, but somehow didn't say anything about Damo and Bozo, who were discussing mechanics even more.

Also I personally am getting townie vibes from Mimi and you and would rather vote someone else D1.

this post was edited

editing is not allowed even if for things like grammar or spelling

however, as Dream is a new player, I think that was just not known, but please, anyone, do NOT edit your posts, even when you think there is something you think you need to correct

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

quoting all of red neurax's posts in one post because they are horrible and also to point out how absurd it is that I can reasonably do so

Is there any reason to keep the identity of the holders of regular potatoes hidden?

What if we just all gave our potatoes to one person and then they'd be guaranteed to die the next day?

pass it to damo

...ok, mediocre first post. Red scumreads damo. Why? We don't know. Surely red will elaborate on damo's scummy play...

pass it to damo

Solid opening.

Sadly I think Red is scum…

And I refuse to vote him today if he keeps this up.

all i did was say we collectively eliminate damo

Red reacted incredibly negatively to bunny's townread for some reason?
to be fair, this is a horrible post by bunny. "I want damo dead" is not a particularly town-indicative post at start of d1

l think Dam0 has somehow calculated on the basis of one(1) or more potatoes exploding more than 0nce.

giving all the potatos to one person is basically just 2 votes a day so thats why we should give them all to damo

...yes but WHY do we want to kill damo? Surely the wise and omnipotent red will reveal this factoid...

@Dip

generally player's legitimate comments don't have the start of every word capitalized
or so I thought
there's a post somewhere that pointed out that jamie does this often, so this, at least, was probably just jamie being jamie
this point is dropped
however, foodcoats' reaction towards it, which was very aggressive, is still scummy

i dont think capitalization is a solid indicator

oh look, it's red's wisdom of saying something that everyone (including me, as I mentioned in the post RED quoted!) agrees on.
How can we ever aspire to achieve this level of insight?

The trend toward only looking into and voting for high volume posters and ignoring lurkers even when half the roster is barely contributing if they are even meeting minimum requirements has me just about ready to townread everyone who is actually trying

this is never a good strategy

apparently, the path to wisdom is paved with not caring about lurkers. This basically amounts to 'do not scumread me'.

this is never a good strategy

Of course it’s not. But when nearly half the roster - yourself included - is at risk of failing to meet (the generously low) minimum requirements halfway through day 1 you can’t blame me for being annoyed by it. It’s not like I have time to post this much every day, so I get it.

That said, you’re here. Do you have any other thoughts or is that all we get?

yeah im not sharing my other thoughts right now im not gonna play all my cards this early

red is refusing to share any opinions or information. HOW is everyone okay with this?

Guys…can we not do the “vote red for scummy lurker” day 1 again?!?

He’s got like triple the posts he normally does.

He’s interacting a little and trying a little.

And we as a group kinda promised we’d reward that with letting him live till day 2 and try and see how to turn it around.

I agree. I wanna vote him too. But cmon. This is sooooo lazy, and we’re all gonna learn nothing.

So…##vote mimi.

thank you i dont want to get voted out again. i will provide useful insights later

these insights have yet to be revealed

##vote DiplomacyandWarfare

oh look, I'm being voted. Not even damo, who red has an established scumread on, if for nonexistent reasons. This is literally a pure bandwagon vote.


so in conclusion, red is maf coasting and refusing to form reads or express opinions

[Kakarroto]

why aren't you voting Red then?

[DreamTrawler]

hi, im back


now I don't have to check the bot

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why is ND a wagon?

Low activity plus they were third on the wagon for me because I talked about game mechanics, but somehow didn't say anything about Damo and Bozo, who were discussing mechanics even more.

Also I personally am getting townie vibes from Mimi and you and would rather vote someone else D1.

this post was edited

editing is not allowed even if for things like grammar or spelling

however, as Dream is a new player, I think that was just not known, but please, anyone, do NOT edit your posts, even when you think there is something you think you need to correct

Gotcha, thank you. For transparency I had not realized I was quoting Dip himself, and so changed the last couple words to say "you" and "vote someone else" rather than "Mimi and Dip".

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

hi, im back

GM POST

Vote count 1.7

ND (4): Kakarroto, DreamTrawler, bozotheclown, Chaqa
DiplomacyandWarfare (3): foodcoats, Red Neurax, damo666
miminena (3): ghug, BunnyGo, DiplomacyandWarfare
DreamTrawler (2): Control V, ND
worcej (2): Jamiet99uk, miminena
Jamiet99uk (1): worcej
rdrivera2005 (1): bo_sox48
BunnyGo (1): JustAGuyNamedWill
bo_sox48 (1): rdrivera2005

ND is sitting on a baking sheet.

About 45 minutes remain.

now I don't have to check the bot

...
why is ND a wagon?

Low activity plus they were third on the wagon for me because I talked about game mechanics, but somehow didn't say anything about Damo and Bozo, who were discussing mechanics even more.

Also I personally am getting townie vibes from Mimi and you and would rather vote someone else D1.

so, your vote hear is based on low activity and a bad vote from ND. Also, a desire to bandwagon a player other than yourself. Thank you.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

why aren't you voting Red then?

I was voting red earlier, before a number of idiots decided to bandwagon me and I hopped on the mimi wagon with more votes and fairly bad play

[DreamTrawler]

hi, im back


now I don't have to check the bot

...
why is ND a wagon?

Low activity plus they were third on the wagon for me because I talked about game mechanics, but somehow didn't say anything about Damo and Bozo, who were discussing mechanics even more.

Also I personally am getting townie vibes from Mimi and you and would rather vote someone else D1.

so, your vote hear is based on low activity and a bad vote from ND. Also, a desire to bandwagon a player other than yourself. Thank you.

That's correct, I think it is suspicious that rdrivera and ND hopped on Control V's bandwagon of me without actually agreeing with the points Control V raised and instead giving bad reasons. Of the two, ND seems the better vote.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

my thoughts on wagons and which ones I like
the miminena wagon did look good earlier but mimi has contributed a lot since.
the ND wagon is looking better and I will go there if I end up with more votes because it has 1 more than mimi (not counting my own vote)
I am town
dreamtrawler is town
worcej is lurking and is slightly more scummy than ND
rdr is also somewhat lurking but not as much
I'm not sure about bunny
bo_sox is towny

hmmm maybe I should go on ND regardless
that'll probably kill the mimi wagon though and, as much as I hate that, I hate the me wagon even more
ill wait I guess

[miminena]

##vote nd

i generally tr dw and would obviously rather not be the kill today myself

ftr these aren't really the best wagons imo

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

##vote nd

i generally tr dw and would obviously rather not be the kill today myself

ftr these aren't really the best wagons imo

hmmm
miminena shows up unannounced at just the right time to likely swing the wagon
I don't think I'm moving