Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[bo_sox48]

Idk, just wanted to get things moving. You’re here now so ##unvote

This is absolute fucking dogshit lmao

Me voting worcej is dogshit, or me unvoting is dogshit? Weren't you the one who said we should vote lurkers, and didn't you vote for Red just two posts before this?

It's dogshit when you vote worcej because he hasn't posted (and will be modkilled if he doesn't), then upon reading ONE post of his you unvote. The point of pushing on lurkers is to pressure them to play the game, not make one post and then say oh you're good now, carry on.

[damo666]

##vote Dip

move off mimi and I'll move off you

[bo_sox48]

The trend toward only looking into and voting for high volume posters and ignoring lurkers even when half the roster is barely contributing if they are even meeting minimum requirements has me just about ready to townread everyone who is actually trying

yeh, I'm kinda guilty of that too. Hadn't fully recovered and was just mostly in bed yesterday when I came home, and in the morning my PC was down due to some uncalled update, so could only check in now, really.

So, anything you'd want to know?

Other than why you happened to show up and play when there was a wagon growing on you and more importantly why the people who were wagoning you magically decided you were all clear now when you showed up, no

[bo_sox48]

Guys…can we not do the “vote red for scummy lurker” day 1 again?!?

He’s got like triple the posts he normally does.

He’s interacting a little and trying a little.

And we as a group kinda promised we’d reward that with letting him live till day 2 and try and see how to turn it around.

I agree. I wanna vote him too. But cmon. This is sooooo lazy, and we’re all gonna learn nothing.

So…##vote mimi.

I'm not aware that we, as a group made any such promises. I remember that one single person did that.

But yeah, I've noticed that he did post more, and more important, more game relevant stuff. I do not like that he blocks off any questions about his reads, this makes it too easy to hide behind that excuse as mafia. But I do concur that he does more than in the last game.

that said @Red Neurax since you don't seem willing sharing your thoughts about people at the current time, when do you plan to reveal such things?

Also, if you could get a potato of your choice, which one would it be, at the moment?

Hopefully this post is why they decided to move their votes away from you because that would be a goos justification

[bo_sox48]

Sup I have a hot potato and I'm gonna do some shit with it

So tell me... who is feeling lucky?

if you chip it up and throw it to me, I'll catch that potato chip ... and EAT IT

Kak doesn't post for 32 hours, and then as soon as there are two votes on Kak, bing, he appears in a flash.

Yeah, Jamie gets it.

##Vote Worcej

And then removes his vote.

[bo_sox48]

I scumread damo but I cant for the life of me figure out why

hmm towny post imo

will who are your trs?

How lmao

[bo_sox48]

I have a bunch of meetings today so I need to cast a vote now. Hope to be able to get back before EOD.

##vote DreamTrawler

I don't like the kill a lurker meme and his posts seems too fluffy, like he (or she) don't want to antagonize anyone.

Is Dream the only one whose posts seem fluffy like they don’t want to antagonize someone or is this a “better drop my vote on someone because I say I hope to be back for EOD but don’t really intend to be” vote?

I don't feel anyone being specially fluffy. And I need to cast a vote. And now I am back for half an hour. Any other question?

Bu the way, why are you defending Dream?

I'm not. I made it very clear that I find the votes against Dream weird but it's NAI for Dream. It is simply logical to conclude that the wagon against him was lazy or opportunistic, or both, and I believe we find scum between you and ND for wagoning on flimsy rationales such as "I need to cast a vote" and then vanishing.

[bo_sox48]

Is Dream the only one whose posts seem fluffy like they don’t want to antagonize someone or is this a “better drop my vote on someone because I say I hope to be back for EOD but don’t really intend to be” vote?

I don't feel anyone being specially fluffy. And I need to cast a vote. And now I am back for half an hour. Any other question?

Bu the way, why are you defending Dream?

"I need to cast a vote" is no reason at all

Did Dream just bus rdr back?

Oh boy

[bo_sox48]

Aint wrong though

[bo_sox48]

I don't feel anyone being specially fluffy. And I need to cast a vote. And now I am back for half an hour. Any other question?

Bu the way, why are you defending Dream?

"I need to cast a vote" is no reason at all

I gave my reason to vote you. This post is answering Bo post that seems targeted to get pressure of you by attacking your voters. I find really odd when someone start to say a wagon is bad even before that person have the chance to speak for himself. It's usually either scum buddying a town or scum tryng to save a partner.

##vote Bo

Yeah, back out when called out. Smart move

[DreamTrawler]

I don't feel anyone being specially fluffy. And I need to cast a vote. And now I am back for half an hour. Any other question?

Bu the way, why are you defending Dream?

"I need to cast a vote" is no reason at all

Did Dream just bus rdr back?

Oh boy

??? I literally just said what you said in your last post - that it's weird that rdrivera and ND jumped onto voting for me for basically no reason. I actually don't mind Control V voting for me as they gave clear reasons and were the first to do so.

[bozotheclown]

Expected hot potato deaths are as follows:-

D1 0%
N1 25%
D2 19%
N2 40%
D3 32%
N3 51%
D4 42%
N4 60%
D5 50%
N5 68%
D6 57%
N6 49%
D7 44%
N7 40%
D8 37%
N8 34%
D9 31%
N9 29%
D10 28%
N10 26%

Although I doubt the game will go beyond D7.

Damo's doing weird Math is usually a towny sign.

Buy I guess it makes some sense and I don't have the time to check it.

I do concur with the first statement.

However when damo does false math it's usually a mafia sign. And I'm not getting why the chance goes down so much on D2, even lower the origin percentage ... and he said himself he didn't put the saving potato into account ... I really do want to see the math behind it

then again bozo has the same 19% for D2? Bozo, damo, how does that work?

The chance of an explosion drops D2 because there is a 25% chance that the only active potato will have already exploded N1.

[DreamTrawler]

Bozo - you've posted a lot but haven't voted for anyone or even really pointed fingers at anyone. Who do you suspect right now?

[bo_sox48]

I know you said what I said. Saying what you said is what I would do if my teammate bussed me too. It could very well just be you being intelligent town too! As such, notice that I'm not voting for you, just leaving the possibility open that the wagon against you could have, as I said, either been entirely lazy - ND and rdr parking a vote on someone they don't think will fight back because they're town and they suck at this game - or a combination of lazy and opportunistic - one of ND and rdr did the above, and the other decided that parking their vote where it wasn't relevant for awhile would help them as mafia to stay under the radar. I doubt both are mafia. None of that has much to do with your alignment.

There's too much emotion in the thread right now and not enough people looking at the game logically.

[miminena]

I scumread damo but I cant for the life of me figure out why

hmm towny post imo

will who are your trs?

How lmao

idk just feels towny to me lol

[bozotheclown]

yeah, took a bit to read all that I've missed. Brain still a bit mushy, but I guess that's the best state in to answer questions, so if you have any, shoot them at me.

from all I've seen, I don't like ND's vote there so ##vote ND

while I concur with the thought that Dream is a little less obvious town as last game, I don't see anything eyecatching that would point to mafia on Dream; there were some people that talked way much mech, curious that ND didn't go for them, instead for a new player that is now in the lead (if I'm not wrong?) of the wagons. That's also a very usual place where mafia likes to pile on

this brings me to bozo and damo, which I'm not sure how to read here. Damo has corrected his numbers, but only after bozo posted his, and we haven't seen either maths. In the end they both kinda agreed to the same numbers (I still want to know how they get to lower than 25% on D2) so either both are mafia or those numbers are solid? I think?

I haven't noticed any correlation between them (well except the numbers) so I guess they aren't paired?

It is obvious through damo's iterations that he was doing the same thing I was, but had some errors somewhere. I just added the probabilities of each of the 7 potatoes exploding in each phase. The probability of an explosion is highest on N7, when the last potato activates (although there is less than 1% chance that the N1 potato is still around).

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Has bozo talked about anything but mechs is the question

[damo666]

yeah, took a bit to read all that I've missed. Brain still a bit mushy, but I guess that's the best state in to answer questions, so if you have any, shoot them at me.

from all I've seen, I don't like ND's vote there so ##vote ND

while I concur with the thought that Dream is a little less obvious town as last game, I don't see anything eyecatching that would point to mafia on Dream; there were some people that talked way much mech, curious that ND didn't go for them, instead for a new player that is now in the lead (if I'm not wrong?) of the wagons. That's also a very usual place where mafia likes to pile on

this brings me to bozo and damo, which I'm not sure how to read here. Damo has corrected his numbers, but only after bozo posted his, and we haven't seen either maths. In the end they both kinda agreed to the same numbers (I still want to know how they get to lower than 25% on D2) so either both are mafia or those numbers are solid? I think?

I haven't noticed any correlation between them (well except the numbers) so I guess they aren't paired?

It is obvious through damo's iterations that he was doing the same thing I was, but had some errors somewhere. I just added the probabilities of each of the 7 potatoes exploding in each phase. The probability of an explosion is highest on N7, when the last potato activates (although there is less than 1% chance that the N1 potato is still around).

Yes, 0.7919%

[damo666]

Has bozo talked about anything but mechs is the question

To be or not to be? That is the question.

[damo666]

I predict a lot of vote movement in the last half hour.