Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[Control V]

##vote DreamTrawler

I Don't think they believe their read on the game open. Don't see where it would come from at all. Very convienient to agree with joke reads instead of making your own tbh.

And I think Mimi should interact with my content since I oddly enough actually have content contrary to their implications.

Otherwise than that no more scumreads and Bo is likely spewed town.

Would like if people commented on my DreamTrawler read.

This one actually makes sense if you put it in a vacuum, but it’s still pretty bland. Where did Dream “agree with joke reads” and are you aware that this forum straight out of 2004 has a quote button?

I find Control V to be putting in the bare minimum effort right now so I would be happy to vote him later on. Seems as if he made one take and dipped

Not having a huge number of reads rn isn't exactly unexpected despite the number of wolves in game but is unfortunate, yes.

[DreamTrawler]

Why do you think this is a good idea and how do you know select the person fairly. Same question for the new guy who posted this exact same thing basically above your post.

I think once we get later into the game, like say Day 3, people will have a number of people they think are scum, and as Red said, mass potato throwing at one target is basically 2 votes a day.

but, as far as I understand it, the person that gets to be the target of the mass throw, is still able to throw the potatoes away, and even if one goes boom and we hit mafia, that person is able to throw all (non exploded) potatoes to someone else. And wouldn't that give mafia like a second nk?

I mean, that could go on for a bit, and if we get some mafia with that, great, but we should be aware that this accumulation could give mafia also a higher hit chance.

And if we are wrong a few times, that could go from town to town to town. We should be thoughtful who to target with stuff like that


hmm, there is a different benefit I just thought about, if everyone throws their potato on one person, and that person fans out the potatoes widely, so throws a single one only for a single target, that person can unpair with a whole lot of people. Then again, that's much more useful if mafia does that, and I don't see a way to guarantee mafia is doing such a thing. So maybe not a good idea.

But maybe I'm overlooking something and it's still overly beneficial doing it?

##CALL GM

If a player has multiple potatoes, can they throw them all to the same person?

[DreamTrawler]

##vote DreamTrawler

I Don't think they believe their read on the game open. Don't see where it would come from at all. Very convienient to agree with joke reads instead of making your own tbh.

And I think Mimi should interact with my content since I oddly enough actually have content contrary to their implications.

Otherwise than that no more scumreads and Bo is likely spewed town.

Would like if people commented on my DreamTrawler read.

This one actually makes sense if you put it in a vacuum, but it’s still pretty bland. Where did Dream “agree with joke reads” and are you aware that this forum straight out of 2004 has a quote button?

Post #244

Suspicions: mimi-Bunny opening could be planned mafia stuff as damo and bo asserted. On the flip side they also both came in pointing fingers, so I could see one of them being mafia. I also think mimi-foodcoats could be a thing, same logic as mimi-Bunny with the early vote. Lastly I think it's suspicious that bozo is advocating for potato holders to reveal themselves but that could just be a difference of strategy.

And I very much agree with Dream seeming to be floating by per say.

What would you like me to do to prove my towniness?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

The king has returned! ##UNVOTE

[Control V]

This one actually makes sense if you put it in a vacuum, but it’s still pretty bland. Where did Dream “agree with joke reads” and are you aware that this forum straight out of 2004 has a quote button?

Post #244

Suspicions: mimi-Bunny opening could be planned mafia stuff as damo and bo asserted. On the flip side they also both came in pointing fingers, so I could see one of them being mafia. I also think mimi-foodcoats could be a thing, same logic as mimi-Bunny with the early vote. Lastly I think it's suspicious that bozo is advocating for potato holders to reveal themselves but that could just be a difference of strategy.

And I very much agree with Dream seeming to be floating by per say.

What would you like me to do to prove my towniness?

Elaborate why you read the game open the way you did I suppose as I am not buying it at all.

[Jamiet99uk]

Sup I have a hot potato and I'm gonna do some shit with it

So tell me... who is feeling lucky?

if you chip it up and throw it to me, I'll catch that potato chip ... and EAT IT

Kak doesn't post for 32 hours, and then as soon as there are two votes on Kak, bing, he appears in a flash.

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Vote count 1.5

miminena (3): ghug, BunnyGo, DiplomacyandWarfare
DreamTrawler (3): Control V, rdrivera2005, ND
DiplomacyandWarfare (2): foodcoats, Red Neurax
BunnyGo (2): damo666, DreamTrawler
Kakarroto (1): Jamiet99uk
Control V (1): miminena
Jamiet99uk (1): worcej
rdrivera2005 (1): bo_sox48
ND (1): Kakarroto
Unvote (1): JustAGuyNamedWill

No one is scheduled to become toast. (Err, wrong food group.)

Chaqa, bozo, and Will must vote; Chaqa also needs to post more.

Four and a half hours remain.

[Spartaculous]

I think once we get later into the game, like say Day 3, people will have a number of people they think are scum, and as Red said, mass potato throwing at one target is basically 2 votes a day.

but, as far as I understand it, the person that gets to be the target of the mass throw, is still able to throw the potatoes away, and even if one goes boom and we hit mafia, that person is able to throw all (non exploded) potatoes to someone else. And wouldn't that give mafia like a second nk?

I mean, that could go on for a bit, and if we get some mafia with that, great, but we should be aware that this accumulation could give mafia also a higher hit chance.

And if we are wrong a few times, that could go from town to town to town. We should be thoughtful who to target with stuff like that


hmm, there is a different benefit I just thought about, if everyone throws their potato on one person, and that person fans out the potatoes widely, so throws a single one only for a single target, that person can unpair with a whole lot of people. Then again, that's much more useful if mafia does that, and I don't see a way to guarantee mafia is doing such a thing. So maybe not a good idea.

But maybe I'm overlooking something and it's still overly beneficial doing it?

##CALL GM

If a player has multiple potatoes, can they throw them all to the same person?

Yes.

[Kakarroto]

Damo's doing weird Math is usually a towny sign.

Buy I guess it makes some sense and I don't have the time to check it.

I do concur with the first statement.

However when damo does false math it's usually a mafia sign. And I'm not getting why the chance goes down so much on D2, even lower the origin percentage ... and he said himself he didn't put the saving potato into account ... I really do want to see the math behind it

then again bozo has the same 19% for D2? Bozo, damo, how does that work?

N1 survival 75% D2 Explode 25% 0.75*0.25=0.1875

(I still want to know how they get to lower than 25% on D2)

potatoes can only activate at the beginning of the night, so only one can be activated during d2, but that potato still might explode during n1, so there's a chance it isn't in play, thus the percentage goes down

ahh, I see, I kinda missed the night activation. Though you think "The hot potatoes will be labelled 1 to N" means that each of the potatoes is activated on a different number? Why not just write '1 to 7' then? Doesn't that mean, with that kind of phrasing, that two potatoes can still have the same night-activation?

##askGM do I misunderstand that or can two potatoes have the same number in the "1 to N" range?

[DreamTrawler]

Post #244


And I very much agree with Dream seeming to be floating by per say.

What would you like me to do to prove my towniness?

Elaborate why you read the game open the way you did I suppose as I am not buying it at all.

To be honest, part of it was me being dumb and forgetting Mafia couldn't communicate in their chat right now. I also thought Bunny voting Mimi right away and Mimi voting Foodcoats right away was weird but you're right, that was probably just jokes. I still think Damo and Bo were quick to hop on Mimi/Bunny, but I don't really think they are scum. Same with Bozo and I in fact agree with the sweet potato plan now. I currently am suspicious of Bunny for his votes and Rdrivera and ND for hopping on the wagon of voting me.

[Spartaculous]

I do concur with the first statement.

However when damo does false math it's usually a mafia sign. And I'm not getting why the chance goes down so much on D2, even lower the origin percentage ... and he said himself he didn't put the saving potato into account ... I really do want to see the math behind it

then again bozo has the same 19% for D2? Bozo, damo, how does that work?

N1 survival 75% D2 Explode 25% 0.75*0.25=0.1875

(I still want to know how they get to lower than 25% on D2)

potatoes can only activate at the beginning of the night, so only one can be activated during d2, but that potato still might explode during n1, so there's a chance it isn't in play, thus the percentage goes down

ahh, I see, I kinda missed the night activation. Though you think "The hot potatoes will be labelled 1 to N" means that each of the potatoes is activated on a different number? Why not just write '1 to 7' then? Doesn't that mean, with that kind of phrasing, that two potatoes can still have the same night-activation?

##askGM do I misunderstand that or can two potatoes have the same number in the "1 to N" range?

No two hot potatoes have the same number. I should have simply written "1 to 7" instead of "1 to N" (that was a leftover from the draft when I was unsure how many hot potatoes there would be).

Exactly one hot potato will activate at the beginning of each of night 1 through night 7.

[Kakarroto]

Sup I have a hot potato and I'm gonna do some shit with it

So tell me... who is feeling lucky?

if you chip it up and throw it to me, I'll catch that potato chip ... and EAT IT

Kak doesn't post for 32 hours, and then as soon as there are two votes on Kak, bing, he appears in a flash.

I think it took me around three hours to read all that I missed, maybe four, but if you consider that as a flash, you go.

I wasn't aware I had any vote on me until I read them just a few minutes ago

[damo666]

@Kak

I assumed he meant 1 to 7 but you make a valid point. Let's see what the GM says.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I scumread damo but I cant for the life of me figure out why

[Kakarroto]

N1 survival 75% D2 Explode 25% 0.75*0.25=0.1875

potatoes can only activate at the beginning of the night, so only one can be activated during d2, but that potato still might explode during n1, so there's a chance it isn't in play, thus the percentage goes down

ahh, I see, I kinda missed the night activation. Though you think "The hot potatoes will be labelled 1 to N" means that each of the potatoes is activated on a different number? Why not just write '1 to 7' then? Doesn't that mean, with that kind of phrasing, that two potatoes can still have the same night-activation?

##askGM do I misunderstand that or can two potatoes have the same number in the "1 to N" range?

No two hot potatoes have the same number. I should have simply written "1 to 7" instead of "1 to N" (that was a leftover from the draft when I was unsure how many hot potatoes there would be).

Exactly one hot potato will activate at the beginning of each of night 1 through night 7.

alright, thanks for clarification

[miminena]

I scumread damo but I cant for the life of me figure out why

hmm towny post imo

will who are your trs?

[Jamiet99uk]

Paste is coming in hot.

"Paste" ?

my guess is refering copy-paste from the shortcut Control+V (which is why I called that player 'Steuerung V' in the sign up, the word for the control key on the german keyboard)

But the V is a capital v so he's actually CTRL+SHIFT+v

[damo666]

I have no particular scumreads so my voting strategy will be

a) to save mimi

b) if mimi no longer in danger I will vote a lurker

[Kakarroto]

"Paste" ?

my guess is refering copy-paste from the shortcut Control+V (which is why I called that player 'Steuerung V' in the sign up, the word for the control key on the german keyboard)

But the V is a capital v so he's actually CTRL+SHIFT+v

true, I did miss that sneaky UMSCHALT

[Kakarroto]

I have no particular scumreads so my voting strategy will be

a) to save mimi

b) if mimi no longer in danger I will vote a lurker

you can do both by voting ND (well, if more people join, I guess)