Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[Red Neurax]

Guys…can we not do the “vote red for scummy lurker” day 1 again?!?

He’s got like triple the posts he normally does.

He’s interacting a little and trying a little.

And we as a group kinda promised we’d reward that with letting him live till day 2 and try and see how to turn it around.

I agree. I wanna vote him too. But cmon. This is sooooo lazy, and we’re all gonna learn nothing.

So…##vote mimi.

thank you i dont want to get voted out again. i will provide useful insights later

[Red Neurax]

##vote DiplomacyandWarfare

[bozotheclown]

##vote DiplomacyandWarfare

Is there a particular thing that someone has presented as a reason to suspect DiplomacyandWarfare that you agree with?

[bozotheclown]

I like this...I've voted both of them!

Why are they strong town?

The content of their posts obviously.

obviously!

I also do not want to vote miminena out, but they did say they were town reading me and damo, so it is possible we have been pocketed. Still, I don't see any reason to vote them over anyone else.

[bozotheclown]

Is there a case to be made for throwing all the hot potatoes at the most likely daykill with seconds left in D1, thus rendering the game a Vanilla game?

Ghug would probably go for that. He loves Vanilla.

This is the dull shit I'm talking about.

Unfortunately the GM has clarified that we can't do this in the way I envisaged.

Is there a reason you edited ghug's post?

[bozotheclown]

##vote DreamTrawler

I Don't think they believe their read on the game open. Don't see where it would come from at all. Very convienient to agree with joke reads instead of making your own tbh.

And I think Mimi should interact with my content since I oddly enough actually have content contrary to their implications.

Otherwise than that no more scumreads and Bo is likely spewed town.

Would like if people commented on my DreamTrawler read.

What are you referring to when you say "read on the game open"?

[Jamiet99uk]

Guys…can we not do the “vote red for scummy lurker” day 1 again?!?

He’s got like triple the posts he normally does.

He’s interacting a little and trying a little.

And we as a group kinda promised we’d reward that with letting him live till day 2 and try and see how to turn it around.

I agree. I wanna vote him too. But cmon. This is sooooo lazy, and we’re all gonna learn nothing.

So…##vote mimi.

thank you i dont want to get voted out again. i will provide useful insights later

Why not now tho?

[Jamiet99uk]

This is the dull shit I'm talking about.

Unfortunately the GM has clarified that we can't do this in the way I envisaged.

Is there a reason you edited ghug's post?

1. Shits
2. Giggles

[bozotheclown]

Guys…can we not do the “vote red for scummy lurker” day 1 again?!?

He’s got like triple the posts he normally does.

He’s interacting a little and trying a little.

And we as a group kinda promised we’d reward that with letting him live till day 2 and try and see how to turn it around.

I agree. I wanna vote him too. But cmon. This is sooooo lazy, and we’re all gonna learn nothing.

So…##vote mimi.

sure, I guess
##vote mimi

Are you scum reading miminena?

[bozotheclown]

Unfortunately the GM has clarified that we can't do this in the way I envisaged.

Is there a reason you edited ghug's post?

1. Shits
2. Giggles

Has doing this been ruled acceptable in mafia games?

[bozotheclown]

Guys…can we not do the “vote red for scummy lurker” day 1 again?!?

He’s got like triple the posts he normally does.

He’s interacting a little and trying a little.

And we as a group kinda promised we’d reward that with letting him live till day 2 and try and see how to turn it around.

I agree. I wanna vote him too. But cmon. This is sooooo lazy, and we’re all gonna learn nothing.

So…##vote mimi.

I think he has always interacted some and tried some, but it is definitely not true that has 3X the post as "normal". He is about on pace to reach his typical D1 post count of 10-15 posts.

[Jamiet99uk]

Is there a reason you edited Ghug's post?

1. Shits
2. Giggles

Has Doing This Been Ruled Acceptable in Mafia Games?

Has it been ruled unacceptable, O Robot Detective?

I have been doing it for several years, in nearly every game, Bozo. You cannot tell me this is the first time you have become aware of it. You are much more observant than that. I changed one word in Ghug's post to gently tease him about liking very Vanilla setups. Why are you choosing to focus on this detail, right now?

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Good morning everyone! It is time for breakfast.

Sparty's hash browns

1 2-lb bag of shredded hash browns
1/2 red onion, chopped
2 bell peppers, chopped (any color but green)
1/3 of a bag or so of frozen French cut green beans
Some olive oil
Jarred garlic
Paprika
Kashmiri chili powder
Salt
Black pepper
Salsa

1. Go to the store and buy the ingredients.
2. Chop the ingredients that should be chopped.
3. Put some oil in a pan and heat it up.
4. Put the onion, bell peppers, and green beans in the pan and cook.
5. Put some garlic in the pan.
6. Add the hash browns and cook them.
7. At some point, add some paprika and/or Kashmiri chili powder. Maybe also some salt and pepper.
8. Serve with salsa.

Makes 2 servings.

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Vote count 1.4

DiplomacyandWarfare (3): foodcoats Jamiet99uk Red Neurax
miminena (3): ghug BunnyGo DiplomacyandWarfare
DreamTrawler (2): Control V rdrivera2005
Control V (1): miminena
Jamiet99uk (1): worcej
Red Neurax (1): bo_sox48
BunnyGo (1): damo666
Unvote (1): DreamTrawler

Currently no one is set to become breakfast.

bozotheclown, Chaqa, JustAGuyNamedWill, Kakarroto, ND, and DreamTrawler all need to vote.

Chaqa needs to meet posting requirements.

Just over 7 hours remain on day 1.

[bozotheclown]

1. Shits
2. Giggles

Has Doing This Been Ruled Acceptable in Mafia Games?

Has it been ruled unacceptable, O Robot Detective?

I have been doing it for several years, in nearly every game, Bozo. You cannot tell me this is the first time you have become aware of it. You are much more observant than that. I changed one word in Ghug's post to gently tease him about liking very Vanilla setups. Why are you choosing to focus on this detail, right now?

I don't know, that is why I was asking. I am not up to date on mafia rulings. I know you have done it before, and I know players have objected to it before, so I thought maybe there was an official ruling by now. The reason I am asking about it "right now" is because of DiplomacyandWarfare's complaint of you doing it to him, and your response that you indicated you had edited his post. If editing posts is allowed, that's OK with me, but I don't think it is unreasonable for DiplomacyandWarfare to find it suspicious.

[Jamiet99uk]

Has Doing This Been Ruled Acceptable in Mafia Games?

Has it been ruled unacceptable, O Robot Detective?

I have been doing it for several years, in nearly every game, Bozo. You cannot tell me this is the first time you have become aware of it. You are much more observant than that. I changed one word in Ghug's post to gently tease him about liking very Vanilla setups. Why are you choosing to focus on this detail, right now?

I don't know, that is why I was asking. I am not up to date on mafia rulings. I know you have done it before, and I know players have objected to it before, so I thought maybe there was an official ruling by now. The reason I am asking about it "right now" is because of DiplomacyandWarfare's complaint of you doing it to him, and your response that you indicated you had edited his post. If editing posts is allowed, that's OK with me, but I don't think it is unreasonable for DiplomacyandWarfare to find it suspicious.

I am certain that it is allowed because I have never been sanctioned for it by any GM, nor by any Council ruling.

I am also not the only person that has ever done it, by the way; I'm just particularly prone to being tempted to do it. I personally find it an amusing feature of the way the WebDip Forum is designed.

[bozotheclown]

Has it been ruled unacceptable, O Robot Detective?

I have been doing it for several years, in nearly every game, Bozo. You cannot tell me this is the first time you have become aware of it. You are much more observant than that. I changed one word in Ghug's post to gently tease him about liking very Vanilla setups. Why are you choosing to focus on this detail, right now?

I don't know, that is why I was asking. I am not up to date on mafia rulings. I know you have done it before, and I know players have objected to it before, so I thought maybe there was an official ruling by now. The reason I am asking about it "right now" is because of DiplomacyandWarfare's complaint of you doing it to him, and your response that you indicated you had edited his post. If editing posts is allowed, that's OK with me, but I don't think it is unreasonable for DiplomacyandWarfare to find it suspicious.

I am certain that it is allowed because I have never been sanctioned for it by any GM, nor by any Council ruling.

I am also not the only person that has ever done it, by the way; I'm just particularly prone to being tempted to do it. I personally find it an amusing feature of the way the WebDip Forum is designed.

OK, thanks. It is an unusual feature and I think it unfortunately could be used maliciously, not just in a game of mafia.

[dargorygel]

Has Doing This Been Ruled Acceptable in Mafia Games?

Has it been ruled unacceptable, O Robot Detective?

I have been doing it for several years, in nearly every game, Bozo. You cannot tell me this is the first time you have become aware of it. You are much more observant than that. I changed one word in Ghug's post to gently tease him about liking very Vanilla setups. Why are you choosing to focus on this detail, right now?

I don't know, that is why I was asking. I am not up to date on mafia rulings. I know you have done it before, and I know players have objected to it before, so I thought maybe there was an official ruling by now. The reason I am asking about it "right now" is because of DiplomacyandWarfare's complaint of you doing it to him, and your response that you indicated you had edited his post. If editing posts is allowed, that's OK with me, but I don't think it is unreasonable for DiplomacyandWarfare to find it suspicious.

##KOUNCIL NOTE
The Kouncil has NOT ruled this illegal. That doesn't mean we, as a body, like it. But it wouldn't be wrong to say we have had discussions about it. And in THIS case I would argue on the Kouncil floor that Jamie made it clear (to me anyway) what he was doing. It is a 'presentation' thing, not a "making someone's words change' thing.

This is NOT to comment on Dip's suspicion, OR Jamie's defense of his succumbing to temptation.

But, simply put, it is NOT illegal.

[Jamiet99uk]

Thank you Darg.

The Ghug edit was just playing about; in no way could it be seen to be an attempt to frame Ghug as Mafia or some odd thing.

The D&W edit was 0bviously not skulduggery because I drew attention to the fact that I had done it. I could have achieved the same thing with a copy-and-paste. (This is why it is absurd that he is screaming and shouting about it).

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I need to reread Dream bc he has had significantly less impact on my worldview than last game