Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[DreamTrawler]

Is there a case to be made for throwing all the hot potatoes at the most likely daykill with seconds left in D1, thus rendering the game a Vanilla game?

Ghug would probably go for that. He loves Vanilla.

This seems very counterproductive. Also, don’t the potatoes get bounced back (or to others) if the target dies?

[bo_sox48]

The trend toward only looking into and voting for high volume posters and ignoring lurkers even when half the roster is barely contributing if they are even meeting minimum requirements has me just about ready to townread everyone who is actually trying

this is never a good strategy

Of course it’s not. But when nearly half the roster - yourself included - is at risk of failing to meet (the generously low) minimum requirements halfway through day 1 you can’t blame me for being annoyed by it. It’s not like I have time to post this much every day, so I get it.

That said, you’re here. Do you have any other thoughts or is that all we get?

[Jamiet99uk]

Is there a case to be made for throwing all the hot potatoes at the most likely daykill with seconds left in D1, thus rendering the game a Vanilla game?

Ghug would probably go for that. He loves Vanilla.

This seems very counterproductive. Also, don’t the potatoes get bounced back (or to others) if the target dies?

##CALL GM - can you clarify?

[Red Neurax]

The trend toward only looking into and voting for high volume posters and ignoring lurkers even when half the roster is barely contributing if they are even meeting minimum requirements has me just about ready to townread everyone who is actually trying

this is never a good strategy

Of course it’s not. But when nearly half the roster - yourself included - is at risk of failing to meet (the generously low) minimum requirements halfway through day 1 you can’t blame me for being annoyed by it. It’s not like I have time to post this much every day, so I get it.

That said, you’re here. Do you have any other thoughts or is that all we get?

yeah im not sharing my other thoughts right now im not gonna play all my cards this early

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

The trend toward only looking into and voting for high volume posters and ignoring lurkers even when half the roster is barely contributing if they are even meeting minimum requirements has me just about ready to townread everyone who is actually trying

Will is not going to like this.

Blasted!

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

bo_sox in 20 seconds be like:
"%%vote foodcoats
will, PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS OR I WILL VOTE FOR YOU"

He’ll ban me if I dont hes got my account by the potatoes

I'm not actually an admin and haven't been for years. Kestas drove the entire admin team and his former co-owner out in one dramatic evening way back when. Not the first time a regrettable power struggle in the back rooms of webDiplomacy marred what was otherwise a good thing for the site, one of which was my fault. Regardless, he never removed my forum label, and I cannot ban or punish any of you, nor would I have ever done so.

Uh oh! Like the Mark Zuckerberg?

[Spartaculous]

Is there a case to be made for throwing all the hot potatoes at the most likely daykill with seconds left in D1, thus rendering the game a Vanilla game?

Ghug would probably go for that. He loves Vanilla.

This seems very counterproductive. Also, don’t the potatoes get bounced back (or to others) if the target dies?

##CALL GM - can you clarify?

Does this clarify the situation for you?

Solution to the issue of what happens if a potato is tossed to someone who dies at the end of the phase:
Players will be allowed to, though not required to, nominate a second target in case the first one dies (but no more than two). (So, I could say my first target is Balki, and my second target, if Balki dies, is brainbomb.) If both of the targets die at the end of the phase (or the only player targeted dies), then the GM will toss the potato to a randomly-selected player (excluding the original tosser).

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

hmm ok here's where i'm at rn

dw/jamie feels t/t, maaaaybe s/s but unlikely. i doubt scum would be this aggressive with a town, and this sort of argument fits both of them in such a way i doubt it's otherwise ai. potentially it could be theater (unlikely imo), but i doubt they're on different teams

i think will is acting weird towards dw. #367 directed to bo is rather snarky, whereas #380 for example referencing his conversation w/ dw potentially is attempting to make it look like they're not at odds while still shading him in the conversation. obv this doesn't mean much but it's d1 so it's still enough for me to ##vote justaguynamedwill

bunny isn't a bad vote either imo but not really preferred. the rest of the people with votes i actively town read atm

Ok I have a few questions
1. Do you find my p#367 to be scummy? If so why?

Do you find me to be scummy in general? Do you think I more resemble my town game or scum game?

[miminena]

hmm ok here's where i'm at rn

dw/jamie feels t/t, maaaaybe s/s but unlikely. i doubt scum would be this aggressive with a town, and this sort of argument fits both of them in such a way i doubt it's otherwise ai. potentially it could be theater (unlikely imo), but i doubt they're on different teams

i think will is acting weird towards dw. #367 directed to bo is rather snarky, whereas #380 for example referencing his conversation w/ dw potentially is attempting to make it look like they're not at odds while still shading him in the conversation. obv this doesn't mean much but it's d1 so it's still enough for me to ##vote justaguynamedwill

bunny isn't a bad vote either imo but not really preferred. the rest of the people with votes i actively town read atm

Ok I have a few questions
1. Do you find my p#367 to be scummy? If so why?

not scummy per se, just weird how you seem to talk to dw differently than others. note that i'm just voting on a whim to see if anything comes from it; my town reads are much stronger than my scum leans

Do you find me to be scummy in general?

overall yeah, at least in relation to other high posters. out of low posters control v is weird for calling out someone for not contributing then proceeding to not contribute so honestly that might be scummier, but it kind of feels weird sring people who have barely been here to defend themselves. it's not like everyone is going to endvote immediately so idk why i'm hesitant abt it and honestly it might elicit more of a defense then waiting w/o voting

Do you think I more resemble my town game or scum game?

i've played one game with you so idrk (i mean i did host one but i didn't really pay attention that much to anyone)

[Jamiet99uk]

This seems very counterproductive. Also, don’t the potatoes get bounced back (or to others) if the target dies?

##CALL GM - can you clarify?

Does this clarify the situation for you?

Solution to the issue of what happens if a potato is tossed to someone who dies at the end of the phase:
Players will be allowed to, though not required to, nominate a second target in case the first one dies (but no more than two). (So, I could say my first target is Balki, and my second target, if Balki dies, is brainbomb.) If both of the targets die at the end of the phase (or the only player targeted dies), then the GM will toss the potato to a randomly-selected player (excluding the original tosser).

So it is impossible to just bury the potatoes on the dying DK.

Ok never mind about my idea then.

[miminena]

It felt like you're actively avoiding making game progressing content.

said the person who proceeded to make only two more posts...

tbh ig bo's reasoning around pushing lurkers makes sense and as weak as this case on cv is it's not any weaker than my case on will so i'll just ##vote control v for now

[ghug]

Ghug, you're a little bit under-the-radar today so far.

Indeed.

[ghug]

Is there a case to be made for throwing all the hot potatoes at the most likely daykill with seconds left in D1, thus rendering the game a Vanilla game?

Ghug would probably go for that. He loves Vanilla.

This is the cool shit I'm talking about.

[ghug]

He’ll ban me if I dont hes got my account by the potatoes

I'm not actually an admin and haven't been for years. Kestas drove the entire admin team and his former co-owner out in one dramatic evening way back when. Not the first time a regrettable power struggle in the back rooms of webDiplomacy marred what was otherwise a good thing for the site, one of which was my fault. Regardless, he never removed my forum label, and I cannot ban or punish any of you, nor would I have ever done so.

Uh oh! Like the Mark Zuckerberg?

webDip stopped fact checking.

For real though you're not truly a webDip admin until you're fixed unceremoniously by an asshole on a power trip. It is the way of things. (No offense darg)

[ghug]

hmm ok here's where i'm at rn

dw/jamie feels t/t, maaaaybe s/s but unlikely. i doubt scum would be this aggressive with a town, and this sort of argument fits both of them in such a way i doubt it's otherwise ai. potentially it could be theater (unlikely imo), but i doubt they're on different teams

i think will is acting weird towards dw. #367 directed to bo is rather snarky, whereas #380 for example referencing his conversation w/ dw potentially is attempting to make it look like they're not at odds while still shading him in the conversation. obv this doesn't mean much but it's d1 so it's still enough for me to ##vote justaguynamedwill

bunny isn't a bad vote either imo but not really preferred. the rest of the people with votes i actively town read atm

Ok I have a few questions
1. Do you find my p#367 to be scummy? If so why?

not scummy per se, just weird how you seem to talk to dw differently than others. note that i'm just voting on a whim to see if anything comes from it; my town reads are much stronger than my scum leans

Do you find me to be scummy in general?

overall yeah, at least in relation to other high posters. out of low posters control v is weird for calling out someone for not contributing then proceeding to not contribute so honestly that might be scummier, but it kind of feels weird sring people who have barely been here to defend themselves. it's not like everyone is going to endvote immediately so idk why i'm hesitant abt it and honestly it might elicit more of a defense then waiting w/o voting

Do you think I more resemble my town game or scum game?

i've played one game with you so idrk (i mean i did host one but i didn't really pay attention that much to anyone)

Dislike this post.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

hmm ok here's where i'm at rn

dw/jamie feels t/t, maaaaybe s/s but unlikely. i doubt scum would be this aggressive with a town, and this sort of argument fits both of them in such a way i doubt it's otherwise ai. potentially it could be theater (unlikely imo), but i doubt they're on different teams

i think will is acting weird towards dw. #367 directed to bo is rather snarky, whereas #380 for example referencing his conversation w/ dw potentially is attempting to make it look like they're not at odds while still shading him in the conversation. obv this doesn't mean much but it's d1 so it's still enough for me to ##vote justaguynamedwill

bunny isn't a bad vote either imo but not really preferred. the rest of the people with votes i actively town read atm

Ok I have a few questions
1. Do you find my p#367 to be scummy? If so why?

not scummy per se, just weird how you seem to talk to dw differently than others. note that i'm just voting on a whim to see if anything comes from it; my town reads are much stronger than my scum leans

Do you find me to be scummy in general?

overall yeah, at least in relation to other high posters. out of low posters control v is weird for calling out someone for not contributing then proceeding to not contribute so honestly that might be scummier, but it kind of feels weird sring people who have barely been here to defend themselves. it's not like everyone is going to endvote immediately so idk why i'm hesitant abt it and honestly it might elicit more of a defense then waiting w/o voting

Do you think I more resemble my town game or scum game?

i've played one game with you so idrk (i mean i did host one but i didn't really pay attention that much to anyone)

Ok. Follow up questions. Do I resemble my town game? And why do you find me scummy in general?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

##CALL GM - can you clarify?

Does this clarify the situation for you?

Solution to the issue of what happens if a potato is tossed to someone who dies at the end of the phase:
Players will be allowed to, though not required to, nominate a second target in case the first one dies (but no more than two). (So, I could say my first target is Balki, and my second target, if Balki dies, is brainbomb.) If both of the targets die at the end of the phase (or the only player targeted dies), then the GM will toss the potato to a randomly-selected player (excluding the original tosser).

So it is impossible to just bury the potatoes on the dying DK.

Ok never mind about my idea then.

Burying potatoes unfortunately typically results in more potatoes

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ok I have a few questions
1. Do you find my p#367 to be scummy? If so why?

not scummy per se, just weird how you seem to talk to dw differently than others. note that i'm just voting on a whim to see if anything comes from it; my town reads are much stronger than my scum leans

Do you find me to be scummy in general?

overall yeah, at least in relation to other high posters. out of low posters control v is weird for calling out someone for not contributing then proceeding to not contribute so honestly that might be scummier, but it kind of feels weird sring people who have barely been here to defend themselves. it's not like everyone is going to endvote immediately so idk why i'm hesitant abt it and honestly it might elicit more of a defense then waiting w/o voting

Do you think I more resemble my town game or scum game?

i've played one game with you so idrk (i mean i did host one but i didn't really pay attention that much to anyone)

Dislike this post.

Why?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

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[ghug]

not scummy per se, just weird how you seem to talk to dw differently than others. note that i'm just voting on a whim to see if anything comes from it; my town reads are much stronger than my scum leans



overall yeah, at least in relation to other high posters. out of low posters control v is weird for calling out someone for not contributing then proceeding to not contribute so honestly that might be scummier, but it kind of feels weird sring people who have barely been here to defend themselves. it's not like everyone is going to endvote immediately so idk why i'm hesitant abt it and honestly it might elicit more of a defense then waiting w/o voting



i've played one game with you so idrk (i mean i did host one but i didn't really pay attention that much to anyone)

Dislike this post.

Why?

The not scummy per se thing. Gives me playing scared vibes.