20 Questions Round 504

[DreamTrawler]

Primarily famous for politics, government, the military, or religion?

I suppose in this area of the world it’s especially worth clarifying that “military” is intended to be broader than just official uniformed armed forces and include irregulars, revolutionaries, etc.

Yes.

[Aristocrat]

Born after the death of Shaka (Zulu / kaSenzangakhona)?

[DreamTrawler]

Born after the death of Shaka (Zulu / kaSenzangakhona)?

Yes.

[Hominidae]

Is this a leader of an independent state?

[Jamiet99uk]

1,2,5. Born or intriduced in an African country that has NOT had a 20Q pick from it yet.
3. NOT a real human born in Eurasia, or fictional character first introduced in a movie.
4. NOT a fictional character.
6.7.10. Born after September 1828 but NOT alive in 1970.
8. Born in what is currently Nigeria, Guinea, Niger, Chad, Mali, South Sudan, Zambia, Tanzania, Angola, Eswatini, Somalia, or the Democratic Republic of the Congo (except not any of these which have already been the birthplace of a 20Q answer before).
9. Primarily famous for politics, government, the military, or religion.

[Jamiet99uk]

Has anyone taken the time to check whether a previous 20Q subject came from Nigeria or Guinea or Niger or Chad or Mali or Mongrovia or South Sudan or Zambia or Tanzania or Angola or Eswatini or Somalia or the Democratic Republic of the Congo?

[DreamTrawler]

Is this a leader of an independent state?

Yes.

[DreamTrawler]

Has anyone taken the time to check whether a previous 20Q subject came from Nigeria or Guinea or Niger or Chad or Mali or Mongrovia or South Sudan or Zambia or Tanzania or Angola or Eswatini or Somalia or the Democratic Republic of the Congo?

In the Google Sheets linked at the bottom of the rules, miminena has added a “Demographics” page which has a map of countries that have had a 20Q pick before. I believe all the countries mentioned have not had one.

[Hominidae]

Has anyone taken the time to check whether a previous 20Q subject came from Nigeria or Guinea or Niger or Chad or Mali or Mongrovia or South Sudan or Zambia or Tanzania or Angola or Eswatini or Somalia or the Democratic Republic of the Congo?

In the Google Sheets linked at the bottom of the rules, miminena has added a “Demographics” page which has a map of countries that have had a 20Q pick before. I believe all the countries mentioned have not had one.

And to be clear, this is based on general nationality/association, not birthplace.

[DarthPorg36]

Has this person featured in a major news source in the last year? (QM discretion)

[Hominidae]

Born in what is currently Guinea, Nigeria, Zambia, Somalia, Tanzania, or the Democratic Republic of the Congo?

[DreamTrawler]

Has this person featured in a major news source in the last year? (QM discretion)

Hmm… as you said, major is subjective. But from a cursory Google search - I guess I would say Yes?

[DreamTrawler]

Born in what is currently Guinea, Nigeria, Zambia, Somalia, Tanzania, or the Democratic Republic of the Congo?

Yes.

[Jamiet99uk]

1,2,5.8.13. Born in what is currently Guinea, Nigeria, Zambia, Somalia, Tanzania, or DR Congo.
3.4. Real human.
6.7.10. Born after September 1828 but NOT alive in 1970.
9. Primarily famous for politics, government, the military, or religion.
11. The leader of an independent state.
12. (Somewhat subjective) - featured in a major news source in the last year.

[Jamiet99uk]

Is this person currently alive?

[DreamTrawler]

Is this person currently alive?

No.

[Ernst_Brenner]

Patrice Lumumba

[DreamTrawler]

Patrice Lumumba

Correct! Pretty tragic what happened to him. And yes, I wanted to try and hit a location on the map that we haven't done for 20Q yet.

I watched a really great documentary last year called Soundtrack to a Coup d'Etat. Half of the movie is about the coup against Lumumba in the Congo, while the other half is about American jazz musicians and how they were used as pawns for soft power in the Cold War. It was really well made, highly recommend.

The news stories that popped up were either about the documentary or a false alarm that his tooth (the only remains of his that were left) was stolen from his mausoleum.