My town points on Will are just the inverse of what I said for you. Will is suspicious of me and rightly so - Will didn't vote Red - Will wanted it to be me rather than him when Ghug fake suspected us as the pair - Will was not afraid to implicate himself in my eyes.Kakarroto wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:14 pmTo 1. Yeah, there is some sus communication Day One, as I said before, between Bunny and you. But Bunny is often shading others when he is mafia, so he could've done all that just in an effort to bind you to himself. It's much easier to see who he wants to convince than what he wants others to be convinced of.DreamTrawler wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:41 pmWhy I think Kak is mafia:
1. Reading over the D1 discussion with the knowledge that Bunny is Mafia, there is one person here who comes across as very suspicious and connected to Bunny: myself. I voted the same way as Bunny, had long interactions with him in the form of being introduced to the game, and was explicitly called out by Red Neurax as part of a potential scumpair with Bunny. Despite all this, Kak repeatedly is saying I don’t seem paired with Bunny. I’m sure if Will was the active one and I was the AFK one he would find a way to say the opposite to Will. He also probably picked me as a newer player is easier to influence.
2. Kak was the second one on the Red Neurax train and stayed there all of D1. Will was not on the Red wagon.
3. Ghug thought Bunny-Kak was the likeliest pair. I think the whole ploy with the poll and the fact that me and Will were so at each others throats and wanting the other to be voted off first is, as Ghug said, surprisingly townie.
4. Will’s whole thing with “it isn’t Bunny-Kak” yesterday is just an insanely bold play if he’s Mafia. He had no guarantee that Ghug would listen to him over me.
5. It would be kind of lame if it was Bunny-Will since they were mostly absent D2 and Will has had long absences in general.
In favor of Kak being town: willingness to vote for Bunny, calling Bunny the most likely Mafia D2, being present and therefore opening himself to scrutiny
To 2. yeah, and it was still not a too bad vote. Didn't get a mason, removed a low information target and got a strong reaction of mafia out of it. So I'd call it a win
To 3. ghug very often suspects me. I don't know his odds, but it feels he is more often wrong than right.
To 4. yeah, sure, could be seen as bold. Will can be quite bold. It could also been something not thought through. Maybe he saw that I was leaning town on him, and thought he could make me vote you out if it comes to that?
To 5. yeah, it would be lame. But I had my fair share of 'being lame' as mafia. So while the other points you've presented I do think are valid (although wrong) (and maybe 3 isn't a too good one), this point here is really just a non-thing.
But yeah, definitely ditch that fifth point. It has nothing to say of alignment. If anything, it would be a harsh maf point because there is a meta of lurking as mafia here. So it's definitely in the realm of possibilities.
But yeah, that's your perspective about me. But what about the town points for Will?
Anyway, you made good points. That's why I'm like 2/3rds or maybe 3/4ths convinced it's you but not entirely. Let's see what Will has to say.
