M1035 - Julius Caesar Mafia - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

I think I understand the basics of the game. Still not super clear on D1 strategy - word count and such seem like an interesting tool but not anything concrete. I think interrogating lurkers makes sense but I have no idea how each player normally acts.

I think saying he won’t vote for me until D3 is… interesting. By D3 no one should be safe. Perhaps he’s trying to earn some goodwill (ha) from me? I appreciate one day of not being voted, but I don’t expect anything beyond that from anyone.

On that note, is it worth speculating who the Mafia will kill? Or is that just going to draw suspicion/influence their decisions?

And now Dream-kaka coaching?

why do you suddenly remember this word exists? You've spent some posts teaching Dream the game (as well did Jamie).

Why is it suddenly coaching from me?

Yes. Jamie and I did too. But I’m not a scum pair with dream.

[Kakarroto]

hmm, alright.

Just, what would it say about ghug and Jamie, if damo flipped town?

Jamie has been pointing at damo for a while so if damo was town I would become suspicious of Jamie. Ghug I’m not as sure.

@kaka

How did this sequence feel to you at the time? Did you learn anything by questioning him?

@Bunny

why are all, or at least most, of your comments 'fascinating' and 'interesting'? But with nothing of a thought of yourself behind? What exactly did you 'fascinating'? What was 'interesting'? What exactly want you to show the class with those posts, because I doubt they were for yourself.

And why are those posts made like machinegun fire? It's like you've prepared them and shot them out at the same time? Did you fear that someone would post inbetween them or what?

As for your questions: He stated that damo flipping mafia would mean jamie and ghug are town, he connected them this way. He also said that he strongly suspects damo would flip mafia. I wanted to see if the reverse was true too, or if that was just an independent read. Seems to me he connected damo stronger to jamie, than to ghug.

But for the feel? Don't know what you expect me to say here, but it felt ... like normal? A typical question in a game of mafia to deepen the information? It's a bit ago and it didn't imprint into my mind, so sorry for not being more detailed, but I didn't feel anything special here. Why would that be important?

[BunnyGo]

Jamie has been pointing at damo for a while so if damo was town I would become suspicious of Jamie. Ghug I’m not as sure.

@kaka

How did this sequence feel to you at the time? Did you learn anything by questioning him?

@Bunny

why are all, or at least most, of your comments 'fascinating' and 'interesting'? But with nothing of a thought of yourself behind? What exactly did you 'fascinating'? What was 'interesting'? What exactly want you to show the class with those posts, because I doubt they were for yourself.

And why are those posts made like machinegun fire? It's like you've prepared them and shot them out at the same time? Did you fear that someone would post inbetween them or what?

As for your questions: He stated that damo flipping mafia would mean jamie and ghug are town, he connected them this way. He also said that he strongly suspects damo would flip mafia. I wanted to see if the reverse was true too, or if that was just an independent read. Seems to me he connected damo stronger to jamie, than to ghug.

But for the feel? Don't know what you expect me to say here, but it felt ... like normal? A typical question in a game of mafia to deepen the information? It's a bit ago and it didn't imprint into my mind, so sorry for not being more detailed, but I didn't feel anything special here. Why would that be important?

The thoughts came later. But as I read, I was highlighting what stood out to me as possibly information and feels.

[Kakarroto]

I’m keeping my vote on you for now and want to hear what ghug thinks about your alignment. But if you want me to vote for Kak or Just (which very well could be the scumpair) then do this for me: don’t vote for one of them yet. I don’t want to do the mindgame of guessing if you are actually Mafia fake voting for your partner or an innocent voting for the Mafia or the Mafia voting for an innocent.

If ghug also thinks Kak-Just is good then I want to hear which one he would vote for first. And also I want to hear from Kak and Just lol

We will be voting whoever I say to vote for, which is why I'm not voting for anyone yet. Can you talk more about who you think might be paired with Bunny?

I think it’s Kak but I don’t have anything concrete. Reasoning is just

1. Will and Bunny both being afk for a while D2, even if it was for personal reasons, seems like a bad strat if they were both Mafia

2. Kakarroto is one of the people who mentioned BunnyGo as Mafia but only after me and Jamie did, but never voted for Bunny. Seems like a decent way to deflect

3. Long posts and leading the hunt for mafia is also a good way to deflect

But I could very well be wrong!

1. has happened before, and stranger things have also happened before. And it can very well be that both are absent due to RL even when both are mafia. Life happens for everyone.

2. I did vote for Bunny. Bunny was tied with damo for a time. In fact, the only ones I didn't vote for were you, jamie, damo, dip and myself.

3. Long posts are my thing though, I'm the one with the highest word count for posts, or at least one of the top 3. That's just my style. Ask ghug if you don't believe me. I think even Bunny has to yield that I'm prone to making big posts. This is NAI in the same line as it is NAI for Will to declare he wont vote for a new player at the start of the game.

Anything else you think suspicious of me?

[Kakarroto]

And now Dream-kaka coaching?

why do you suddenly remember this word exists? You've spent some posts teaching Dream the game (as well did Jamie).

Why is it suddenly coaching from me?

Yes. Jamie and I did too. But I’m not a scum pair with dream.

Well, good to know, I'm 100% guaranteed Vanilla Town™

so I can't be on a mafia team with Dream either

[Kakarroto]

@kaka

How did this sequence feel to you at the time? Did you learn anything by questioning him?

@Bunny

why are all, or at least most, of your comments 'fascinating' and 'interesting'? But with nothing of a thought of yourself behind? What exactly did you 'fascinating'? What was 'interesting'? What exactly want you to show the class with those posts, because I doubt they were for yourself.

And why are those posts made like machinegun fire? It's like you've prepared them and shot them out at the same time? Did you fear that someone would post inbetween them or what?

As for your questions: He stated that damo flipping mafia would mean jamie and ghug are town, he connected them this way. He also said that he strongly suspects damo would flip mafia. I wanted to see if the reverse was true too, or if that was just an independent read. Seems to me he connected damo stronger to jamie, than to ghug.

But for the feel? Don't know what you expect me to say here, but it felt ... like normal? A typical question in a game of mafia to deepen the information? It's a bit ago and it didn't imprint into my mind, so sorry for not being more detailed, but I didn't feel anything special here. Why would that be important?

The thoughts came later. But as I read, I was highlighting what stood out to me as possibly information and feels.

well, to me it seems like you chose selected posts and presented them to the group, without much commentary than "hmm yes good thing I noticed that". And it feels like you want to smear all dirt on me, without putting out, what that dirt actually is. And that reminds me heavily of other games like the pirate game, where you tried the same as mafia, with jamie as your partner there. Putting me out as a sacrifice for your win.

So tell me, why did you quote those posts, exactly, what where your thoughts on every single one of them?

[Kakarroto]

also, I'm not an expert, I think, but you both don't sound like you're making a theatre to me. If I didn't know that one of you HAS to be mafia, I could see this as a possible town vs. town exchange. I mean, ghug, you might want to veto me there, but I think that Bunny and Dream don't exactly look and feel like a team.

Which would mean, that Will is the mafia that's left over, at least from my view. I'm still leaning heavily that Bunny is the mafia between Dream and Bunny, with all his shading and stuff.

So if I had to bet, my coins would be on a Will-Bunny team. I mean, I had that already in as the more likely team, before I got spooked by ghug on day two, but it just looks to me that's the solution.

[BunnyGo]

@Bunny

why are all, or at least most, of your comments 'fascinating' and 'interesting'? But with nothing of a thought of yourself behind? What exactly did you 'fascinating'? What was 'interesting'? What exactly want you to show the class with those posts, because I doubt they were for yourself.

And why are those posts made like machinegun fire? It's like you've prepared them and shot them out at the same time? Did you fear that someone would post inbetween them or what?

As for your questions: He stated that damo flipping mafia would mean jamie and ghug are town, he connected them this way. He also said that he strongly suspects damo would flip mafia. I wanted to see if the reverse was true too, or if that was just an independent read. Seems to me he connected damo stronger to jamie, than to ghug.

But for the feel? Don't know what you expect me to say here, but it felt ... like normal? A typical question in a game of mafia to deepen the information? It's a bit ago and it didn't imprint into my mind, so sorry for not being more detailed, but I didn't feel anything special here. Why would that be important?

The thoughts came later. But as I read, I was highlighting what stood out to me as possibly information and feels.

well, to me it seems like you chose selected posts and presented them to the group, without much commentary than "hmm yes good thing I noticed that". And it feels like you want to smear all dirt on me, without putting out, what that dirt actually is. And that reminds me heavily of other games like the pirate game, where you tried the same as mafia, with jamie as your partner there. Putting me out as a sacrifice for your win.

So tell me, why did you quote those posts, exactly, what where your thoughts on every single one of them?

Jesus f***ing christ no. I read you guys in ISO and quoted things that stood out for interactions and actions that seemed surprising or insightful to me.

[Kakarroto]

The thoughts came later. But as I read, I was highlighting what stood out to me as possibly information and feels.

well, to me it seems like you chose selected posts and presented them to the group, without much commentary than "hmm yes good thing I noticed that". And it feels like you want to smear all dirt on me, without putting out, what that dirt actually is. And that reminds me heavily of other games like the pirate game, where you tried the same as mafia, with jamie as your partner there. Putting me out as a sacrifice for your win.

So tell me, why did you quote those posts, exactly, what where your thoughts on every single one of them?

Jesus f***ing christ no. I read you guys in ISO and quoted things that stood out for interactions and actions that seemed surprising or insightful to me.

ok then, it's hard to believe from my point of view, but alright, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

It still has a look of putting stuff out without explanation so people don't (exactly) know what point you are making. I mean, bozo does that too. But for the things you have posted, none of them are connections, at least mafia wise, because I ain't part of mafia this game. So if you are really town, you didn't make it seem to me.

[BunnyGo]

well, to me it seems like you chose selected posts and presented them to the group, without much commentary than "hmm yes good thing I noticed that". And it feels like you want to smear all dirt on me, without putting out, what that dirt actually is. And that reminds me heavily of other games like the pirate game, where you tried the same as mafia, with jamie as your partner there. Putting me out as a sacrifice for your win.

So tell me, why did you quote those posts, exactly, what where your thoughts on every single one of them?

Jesus f***ing christ no. I read you guys in ISO and quoted things that stood out for interactions and actions that seemed surprising or insightful to me.

ok then, it's hard to believe from my point of view, but alright, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

It still has a look of putting stuff out without explanation so people don't (exactly) know what point you are making. I mean, bozo does that too. But for the things you have posted, none of them are connections, at least mafia wise, because I ain't part of mafia this game. So if you are really town, you didn't make it seem to me.

That may be because you interacted with the remaining people A LOT.

In ways that seemed possibly alignment meaningful.

[ghug]

Is this scum theater?

[BunnyGo]

Is this scum theater?

Nope

[DreamTrawler]

Is this scum theater?

Good question. Really wish we had our 5th player here to give a more rounded picture.

[ghug]

Will, I'm telling you right now that I've been burned at LYLO before by someone ghosting the game and then giving a compelling sob story. Show up or you die.

[Kakarroto]

Jesus f***ing christ no. I read you guys in ISO and quoted things that stood out for interactions and actions that seemed surprising or insightful to me.

ok then, it's hard to believe from my point of view, but alright, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

It still has a look of putting stuff out without explanation so people don't (exactly) know what point you are making. I mean, bozo does that too. But for the things you have posted, none of them are connections, at least mafia wise, because I ain't part of mafia this game. So if you are really town, you didn't make it seem to me.

That may be because you interacted with the remaining people A LOT.

In ways that seemed possibly alignment meaningful.

I've tried to pull information from people that haven't done much, or impacted the game massively. Will was gone. You were gone. Dream laid back a lot. I didn't need to talk much to Jamie, he did send a lot. I did talk a bit with damo, and what I've seen there was rang in a good melody for me, his thoughts were similar in many regards. Maybe I've not pulled enough from ghug you could argue so I wouldn't misunderstand him.

But usually I try to get information from those that don't send them. At least when I'm town, that much you should know.

Now, is me doing what I normally do as town mafia indicative? I could understand that you wouldn't read me as town for it with the argument that as mafia I would try to emulate my town game. But surly you would see that me doing the thing I normally do, don't make me mafia, right?

[Kakarroto]

Is this scum theater?

Nope

I kinda believe that, I lean towards no theatre between Bunny and Dream.

I swear there is no possible mafia theatre between me and anyone in this game.

And with how things have developed, my best guess now is to vote out Will. It looks very much to me that Bunny and Dream aren't a team, so Will is the 100% maf option for me.

But that is all that I really can do, to give you my thoughts ghug. We need to rally behind you today, and as our townclear, I will vote everyone you deem to be mafia, except myself. I wont blame you (too much) if you get it wrong too.

And with that, I gonna go, will be back later. Monday morning and stuff.

[ghug]

Is this scum theater?

Nope

I kinda believe that, I lean towards no theatre between Bunny and Dream.

I swear there is no possible mafia theatre between me and anyone in this game.

And with how things have developed, my best guess now is to vote out Will. It looks very much to me that Bunny and Dream aren't a team, so Will is the 100% maf option for me.

But that is all that I really can do, to give you my thoughts ghug. We need to rally behind you today, and as our townclear, I will vote everyone you deem to be mafia, except myself. I wont blame you (too much) if you get it wrong too.

And with that, I gonna go, will be back later. Monday morning and stuff.

I clearly meant you and Bunny.

[ghug]

Nope

I kinda believe that, I lean towards no theatre between Bunny and Dream.

I swear there is no possible mafia theatre between me and anyone in this game.

And with how things have developed, my best guess now is to vote out Will. It looks very much to me that Bunny and Dream aren't a team, so Will is the 100% maf option for me.

But that is all that I really can do, to give you my thoughts ghug. We need to rally behind you today, and as our townclear, I will vote everyone you deem to be mafia, except myself. I wont blame you (too much) if you get it wrong too.

And with that, I gonna go, will be back later. Monday morning and stuff.

I clearly meant you and Bunny.

Fuck Kak this shit is how you trick me.

[BunnyGo]

Well, nothing that happened (or didn't happen) overnight has changed my mind. Will be fairly busy until close to EOD today.

kaka-Just seems right to me.

And either way ##vote Just for ghosting again.

[BunnyGo]

Will check in close to end to see if I need to move my vote.