M1035 - Julius Caesar Mafia - Game Thread

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

so I guess the best thing is for the mason themselves to decide if they want to claim or not. In my opinion, if they think mafia has found out who they are, due to the code (pretty sure D&W did explain that to his partner), and are at high risk of being the Night 2 NK, they should probably claim today, although on a later date, to see how the game develops. Maybe after the halfway point?

Well the same is true if somehow they are close to be voted out, as ghug said. Maybe wait a bit if the pressure dissipates, but not like five minutes before EoD.

But if they are pretty sure to be hidden, stay down and keep low, try to survive to the endgame, and give us a townclear at the end time. Think that sounds good?

In that sense, if they see mafia claiming to be the mason, they should probably wait for the end of the night, right? Or would a direct counter then better? Like a surehit on a mafia early for a trade as the NK? Or adding a living townclear at the later stage with a surviving mafia until then? Could maybe give more info for connections, but if handled badly, could mean loss of the mason with being hit by a random NK without their opinions shared.

Ah well, I guess it's the mason's choice to decide what to do. I think it wouldn't hurt if someone gave some advice for it, but don't force our PR in any direction, it's their choice.

Mason practically always should claim EON next night regardless

Or if they become the leading wagon

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

so I guess the best thing is for the mason themselves to decide if they want to claim or not. In my opinion, if they think mafia has found out who they are, due to the code (pretty sure D&W did explain that to his partner), and are at high risk of being the Night 2 NK, they should probably claim today, although on a later date, to see how the game develops. Maybe after the halfway point?

Well the same is true if somehow they are close to be voted out, as ghug said. Maybe wait a bit if the pressure dissipates, but not like five minutes before EoD.

But if they are pretty sure to be hidden, stay down and keep low, try to survive to the endgame, and give us a townclear at the end time. Think that sounds good?

In that sense, if they see mafia claiming to be the mason, they should probably wait for the end of the night, right? Or would a direct counter then better? Like a surehit on a mafia early for a trade as the NK? Or adding a living townclear at the later stage with a surviving mafia until then? Could maybe give more info for connections, but if handled badly, could mean loss of the mason with being hit by a random NK without their opinions shared.

Ah well, I guess it's the mason's choice to decide what to do. I think it wouldn't hurt if someone gave some advice for it, but don't force our PR in any direction, it's their choice.

Mason practically always should claim EON next night regardless

Or if they become the leading wagon

Leading wagon at EOD*

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I also want the input of people on my thoughts of the chance that Will&Bunny might be our mafia team, especially Jamie, damo and ghug.

Will was very protective of some people, and easily gave out townreads. Jamie, Red and dip if I remember correctly. Oh and Dream I think. Two of them already flipped correct.

Can you revisit their (Bunny&Will) discussion and give me a response how you think about that possible pairing? Am I just seeing things or did I actually notice a true connection?

Can you explain Bunny

Who would Bunny’s other partner be if I flip town

[Jamiet99uk]

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[JustAGuyNamedWill]

In that regard, Will, you did gave out some easy townreads. How did you get to them. You said for example on page 7 that Jamie is town, with much conviction. How can you be sure of that? Jamie is great at hiding his alignment when he is mafia.

You explained your dip read and Dream, so I wont question you about them, but what about Red? When did you read Red as town? How were you that sure?

I dont think I had conviction in my townreads. It was mild.

Yes, I can never be sure because I dont know his alignment. I just made an inference

Red was town because he was being wagoned for NAI stuff. That is *the* telltale sign of a town hang

Red being killed so that ‘game is better bc one less lurker’ is absolutely shitty logic because we only have 2 miskills and that was one of them

[Jamiet99uk]

Red being killed so that ‘game is better bc one less lurker’ is absolutely shitty logic because we only have 2 miskills and that was one of them

Who said the phrase you are quoting?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Hey yall, irl stuff came up

Will participate more soon

anchor post is anchory

Sorry lol

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Red being killed so that ‘game is better bc one less lurker’ is absolutely shitty logic because we only have 2 miskills and that was one of them

Who said the phrase you are quoting?

NObody said this. I’m saying in general because the last time red and I played he was killed for NAI stuff and that was the response. I have yet to see a good explanation for why people voted red

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Actually

Jamie you voted Red, right

Why

[Kakarroto]

Killing red for lurking again was dumb

Like i get killing lurkers in a larger game but we only have 2 miskills total

For the second game in a row we’ve killed someone for something that was NAI and surprise surprise it was a townie

well whoop dee fucking doo, Red should've played the game then. Doing bare nothing is just shite, and it needs to be carved out and stomped on and burned as fast and as often as we can.

And sorry if you are offended by that Red, that is not what I want, but I will not stop going for lurkers, because it's just so easy for mafia to hide in that.

Also Will, you could've said so earlier than, what, two seconds before phase change and fought it? But you never did.

You posted Red as third-last in your 'towny' readlist, and just popped in and suddenly sprouted your 'knowledge' before anyone could respond to that. When did that shift from "maf-PoE" to "town" for Red happen? Because he lurked more? Nah Will, you look very sus with that, and you failed to explain and answer the questions of why you read most of the people you town read.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ok I kind of had a thought

I assumed Dip was not the mason because his alleged codes were so brazen and obvious I felt he was trying to draw the NK

I dont think its a real code at all. The chance that the mason is the first and *only* person to crack it just isn’t very likely, and Dip knows that

My theory is Dip tried to make it appear he was trying to draw the NK, while actually *being* the PR

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Killing red for lurking again was dumb

Like i get killing lurkers in a larger game but we only have 2 miskills total

For the second game in a row we’ve killed someone for something that was NAI and surprise surprise it was a townie

*well whoop dee fucking doo, Red should've played the game then. Doing bare nothing is just shite, and it needs to be carved out and stomped on and burned as fast and as often as we can.*

And sorry if you are offended by that Red, that is not what I want, but I will not stop going for lurkers, because it's just so easy for mafia to hide in that.

1. Also Will, you could've said so earlier than, what, two seconds before phase change and fought it? But you never did.

You posted Red as third-last in your 'towny' readlist, and just popped in and suddenly sprouted your 'knowledge' before anyone could respond to that. When did that shift from "maf-PoE" to "town" for Red happen? 2. Because he lurked more? Nah Will, you look very sus with that, 3. and you failed to explain and answer the questions of why you read most of the people you town read.

1. Yes it was dumb, but Red didnt become a truly runaway wagon until last minute. And I was offline until then, so i couldnt have. But stuff like *your first paragraph* is reason to believe it wouldn’t have mattered anyway because people want to kill lurkers for lurking

2. No. Because he was wagoned for lurking. Lurking itself is NAI and pretty annoying. Being wagoned for lurking as a serial lurker as both alignments *is* towny, esp when they’re a runaway wagon

3. I must have not gotten to that, I’m still catching up. If you could link the questions you have, that would be helpful

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

im getting deja vu lolol

I’ve had this exact converstaion before

[Kakarroto]

I also want the input of people on my thoughts of the chance that Will&Bunny might be our mafia team, especially Jamie, damo and ghug.

Will was very protective of some people, and easily gave out townreads. Jamie, Red and dip if I remember correctly. Oh and Dream I think. Two of them already flipped correct.

Can you revisit their (Bunny&Will) discussion and give me a response how you think about that possible pairing? Am I just seeing things or did I actually notice a true connection?

Can you explain Bunny

Who would Bunny’s other partner be if I flip town

Bunny and damo comes to mind, though they are now voting both me, so that detracts from that. Also Jamie could be fooling me again and it's Bunny and Jamie, but then again, I'm not sure that it's Bunny.

But Bunny's sudden vanish after he came back for a second, voted me and finished his post-limit (which surprised me when our GM announced it so I double checked and he actually posted enough) has me sussing him. Like, if that doesn't make you wonder, what will?

[DreamTrawler]

I also want the input of people on my thoughts of the chance that Will&Bunny might be our mafia team, especially Jamie, damo and ghug.

Will was very protective of some people, and easily gave out townreads. Jamie, Red and dip if I remember correctly. Oh and Dream I think. Two of them already flipped correct.

Can you revisit their (Bunny&Will) discussion and give me a response how you think about that possible pairing? Am I just seeing things or did I actually notice a true connection?

Can you explain Bunny

Who would Bunny’s other partner be if I flip town

I would guess damo as they were defending each other at end of day 1

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Hi guys again I’m so sorry for not being online I’m just very occupied

Will be online tomorrow, if I’m not hammer me. Promise I’ll be online

You have eight hours.

it's good to hear that at least you, Will, plan to post. At this point, I'm quite worried about Bunny, seems like he has something very serious. Was about to suggest to maybe pause the game if one third of the player aren't able to play.

I'm also not sure a straight time limit is the way to go, Jamie. But maybe I'm just not strict enough.

Anyway, in case I miss your return Will, I want your thoughts about this game.

1. Especially, tell me why you are so sure about the alignment of some of the players.

2. Tell me who you think is mafia.

3. And why you would just go here and say to straight hammer you instead of asking of a sub out.

1. I am not sure on anyone. Why are you saying that?
2. I don’t know to be honest. If i had to pick one otoh I’d pick ghug. But I am genuinely unsure. ONce im done with my catchup im going to iso people and try and get a solid grasp
3. This was more to show that I *was* going to show up and that I truly was gone due to irl stuff. I was thinking about forcing myself to make content but I was just too busy to meaningfully interact with the game.

[Kakarroto]

In that regard, Will, you did gave out some easy townreads. How did you get to them. You said for example on page 7 that Jamie is town, with much conviction. How can you be sure of that? Jamie is great at hiding his alignment when he is mafia.

You explained your dip read and Dream, so I wont question you about them, but what about Red? When did you read Red as town? How were you that sure?

I dont think I had conviction in my townreads. It was mild.

Yes, I can never be sure because I dont know his alignment. I just made an inference

Red was town because he was being wagoned for NAI stuff. That is *the* telltale sign of a town hang

Red being killed so that ‘game is better bc one less lurker’ is absolutely shitty logic because we only have 2 miskills and that was one of them

"mild"?

I’m so glad I have not participated in the Roman flavor stuff

Jamie town

that doesn't look like 'mild' to me. You straight up declared that Jamie is town.

and no, the less lurker in a game, the more information there is from every other participant. That is flawless logic, and NOT shitty. Especially since there are enough people that potentially hide behind lurking when they are mafia.

[Kakarroto]

Red being killed so that ‘game is better bc one less lurker’ is absolutely shitty logic because we only have 2 miskills and that was one of them

Who said the phrase you are quoting?

NObody said this. I’m saying in general because the last time red and I played he was killed for NAI stuff and that was the response. I have yet to see a good explanation for why people voted red

I've explained it often enough, if you don't WANT to understand it, that's on you

[DreamTrawler]

Also, I have been unable to access the bot - no matter what browser I paste the link into it tells me "Not a secure connection" or "this site may be impersonating ... and trying to steal your information." Is there any other way I can access it?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I also want the input of people on my thoughts of the chance that Will&Bunny might be our mafia team, especially Jamie, damo and ghug.

Will was very protective of some people, and easily gave out townreads. Jamie, Red and dip if I remember correctly. Oh and Dream I think. Two of them already flipped correct.

Can you revisit their (Bunny&Will) discussion and give me a response how you think about that possible pairing? Am I just seeing things or did I actually notice a true connection?

Can you explain Bunny

Who would Bunny’s other partner be if I flip town

Bunny and damo comes to mind, though they are now voting both me, so that detracts from that. Also Jamie could be fooling me again and it's Bunny and Jamie, but then again, I'm not sure that it's Bunny.

But Bunny's sudden vanish after he came back for a second, voted me and finished his post-limit (which surprised me when our GM announced it so I double checked and he actually posted enough) has me sussing him. Like, if that doesn't make you wonder, what will?

I forgot about Bunny being gone lol

You and Bunny kinda meld in my mind due to the pfps lol