M1035 - Julius Caesar Mafia - Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

Just saw the last GM post again, Bunny, Will and Dream haven't met their 10-relevant-post limit yet. I guess Dream should be fine with a little bit more involvement, but Bunny and Will might just get replaced or modkilled.

If they are both town, we insta lose in the worst case, I really don't want that

And if they are really mafia (or one of them is) they should at least get their stuff together so we can have a good game.

The post minimum doesn't apply if the phase is hammered.

Could scum!damo be trying to protect his scum partner from being modkilled?

I don't and wouldn't play like that. It's tantamount to cheating.

However gonna ##unend.

Might be around EOD but if so I may be incoherent!

Don't kill me, I'm town.

I very much doubt all the Dip voters we're town which means at least one scum in {bunny, ghug, Dream} perhaps the latter is a dark horse.

Ok but you were also accusing Bunny and Will of doing something that I would regard as tantamount to cheating.

[damo666]

The post minimum doesn't apply if the phase is hammered.

Could scum!damo be trying to protect his scum partner from being modkilled?

I don't and wouldn't play like that. It's tantamount to cheating.

However gonna ##unend.

Might be around EOD but if so I may be incoherent!

Don't kill me, I'm town.

I very much doubt all the Dip voters we're town which means at least one scum in {bunny, ghug, Dream} perhaps the latter is a dark horse.

Ok but you were also accusing Bunny and Will of doing something that I would regard as tantamount to cheating.

No I did not. I just said they could be the scumpair.

[Jamiet99uk]

I don't and wouldn't play like that. It's tantamount to cheating.

However gonna ##unend.

Might be around EOD but if so I may be incoherent!

Don't kill me, I'm town.

I very much doubt all the Dip voters we're town which means at least one scum in {bunny, ghug, Dream} perhaps the latter is a dark horse.

Ok but you were also accusing Bunny and Will of doing something that I would regard as tantamount to cheating.

No I did not. I just said they could be the scumpair.

Did you not imply, in saying that, that one or both of them was lurking / low posting *on_purpose*?

If you did not mean to imply that, why did you interject an assertion that they could be the scum pair, at that point in the discussion?

[Jamiet99uk]

You see Damo this is an inherent problem in the way you often post.

You present isolated theories or conclusions without setting them in context or explaining how you got there.

Like you often post stuff like "X could be paired with Y or Z but not with B" as a post on it's own without any explanation as to how you got there.

If you are town, we then waste time where someone like myself has to do a merry little dance with you, asking you questions to eventually get you to reveal your logic.

If you are scum.... well.... it's easy to fake, perhaps.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Call GM

Are you ready to bring in a sub if needed?

(In particular if BunnyGo cannot play)

[miminena]

##Call GM

Are you ready to bring in a sub if needed?

(In particular if BunnyGo cannot play)

Yes, kotp is ready to join if necessary

[BunnyGo]

Sorry about that. Will catch up over the next few hours. Stomach bugs ****.

[BunnyGo]

58-10 48-5 93-34 92-95 0 35-52 35-26

These numbers could represent positions in a certain type of cipher or code. For instance, they might relate to a book or text where a specific number indicates a paragraph (first number) and a letter or word (second number).

The presence of an isolated zero is bothering me, however.

Did you figure it out?

[BunnyGo]

The most suspicious so far has been ##vote diplomacy for this post:

If one kak is more than enough, why not vote kak, who is already a wagon?

@BunnyGo: Why was the above post by D&W "the most suspicious post" of the first six pages of the game?

Because he’d started by “pushing lurkers” (over the first few hours) and then announcing his disappearance. And then not disappearing but showing up again to argue about someone voting him. The post’s existence was sketchy.

[BunnyGo]

:roman tumbleweed:

town

Why?

[BunnyGo]

Hmmm. Did dip hide something in his text? If so mafia might've cracked that code. Though I thought he did it because he wasn't mason and he did just post some gibberish.

Well then, would it be good if the other mason hides? Like mafia would probably know, or at least have a pretty good guess, who the other mason is?

[BunnyGo]

Well, I'm gonna have a look at it.

For now, in honour of our beloved Brutus Cinna, ##vote BunnyGo

Worst start to day ever. I hope I see someone call you on it. Although if nobody does that’s even more sus.

[BunnyGo]

I think we should concentrate our voting on those that voted Dip at some stage - they are: Bunny, me, Dream, ghug.

I was townreading Bunny yesterday because I thought he'd dropped a mason hint. However I doubt he'd open with a vote of his fellow mason (although that would be a kinda nice sneaky trick).

So ##vote Bunny

I did not intentionally drop a mason crumb and will neither confirm nor deny I am D&W’s partner.

[damo666]

Ok but you were also accusing Bunny and Will of doing something that I would regard as tantamount to cheating.

No I did not. I just said they could be the scumpair.

Did you not imply, in saying that, that one or both of them was lurking / low posting *on_purpose*?

If you did not mean to imply that, why did you interject an assertion that they could be the scum pair, at that point in the discussion?

because they may be the scumpair?

[damo666]

:roman tumbleweed:

town

Why?

scum happy with nothing happening

[BunnyGo]

As it stands the chance a towny voting a scum at random is 1/3.

If the mason claims the for vts this goes up to 2/5 (and if we get a cc 1/2).

So... should the mason reveal (thus sacrificing themselves to the NK)?

Opinions sought.

No.

[BunnyGo]

town

Why?

scum happy with nothing happening

At night?

[BunnyGo]

so I guess the best thing is for the mason themselves to decide if they want to claim or not. In my opinion, if they think mafia has found out who they are, due to the code (pretty sure D&W did explain that to his partner), and are at high risk of being the Night 2 NK, they should probably claim today, although on a later date, to see how the game develops. Maybe after the halfway point?

Well the same is true if somehow they are close to be voted out, as ghug said. Maybe wait a bit if the pressure dissipates, but not like five minutes before EoD.

But if they are pretty sure to be hidden, stay down and keep low, try to survive to the endgame, and give us a townclear at the end time. Think that sounds good?

In that sense, if they see mafia claiming to be the mason, they should probably wait for the end of the night, right? Or would a direct counter then better? Like a surehit on a mafia early for a trade as the NK? Or adding a living townclear at the later stage with a surviving mafia until then? Could maybe give more info for connections, but if handled badly, could mean loss of the mason with being hit by a random NK without their opinions shared.

Ah well, I guess it's the mason's choice to decide what to do. I think it wouldn't hurt if someone gave some advice for it, but don't force our PR in any direction, it's their choice.

##vote kaka


He’s doing his wall post useless “look at me” meta

[damo666]

##vote kak

[miminena]

DAY II. VOTECOUNT III.

damo666 (III) - ghug, Jamiet99uk, DreamTrawler
Kakarroto (II) - BunnyGo, damo666
BunnyGo (I) - Kakarroto

JustAGuyNamedWill still must cast a vote

JustAGuyNamedWill and DreamTrawler are yet to meet posting requirements

under 9 hours left in the day