Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

[Squigs44]

@ghug - You say you are town, but you are really leaving it all up to Squigs to try to do all the heavy lifting. Either you aren't the expert you are purported to be...or you are scum. Which one is it?

We all know that I haven't done any heavy lifting this game.

[flash2015]

I am just looking at "the expert's" posts from the last day it basically comes down to some boasts, a bit of banter and "vote flash" (but didn't actually make sure it happened at the end of the day - where was he????). He knows he would have been in trouble earlier if I was shown to be town. This is all the backpocket strategy...the mislynch he won't need to justify because this will win him the game.

[flash2015]

@ghug - You say you are town, but you are really leaving it all up to Squigs to try to do all the heavy lifting. Either you aren't the expert you are purported to be...or you are scum. Which one is it?

We all know that I haven't done any heavy lifting this game.

It is all relative...

[flash2015]

He has absolutely nothing, NADA, zilch. The only thing he keeps repeating is the fact that I voted the same way as him on D1/D2. I really don't understand how any sane person could find this BS convincing.

[ND]

Sigh maybe I'm wrong on Flash too.

[ghug]

If all you've got left is to lie about what I've done outside of pushing you and lie about what my evidence is for pushing you, I shouldn't have to do anything more to convince everyone else.

The "where was ghug" argument is especially disingenuous, as I warned everyone I'd be gone, and have had inconsistent availability around phase change time all game. This schedule is only really conducive to people on the east coast.

[flash2015]

Please show me all this expert analysis you have been doing. All I see is "vote Flash because he voted the same way as me". There is more than one person in a scum team, you more than anyone know that! Who are the rest?

[ghug]

Please show me all this expert analysis you have been doing. All I see is "vote Flash because he voted the same way as me". There is more than one person in a scum team, you more than anyone know that! Who are the rest?

If you actually cared enough to read carefully, you'd see that I said just a few hours ago that the team is you, followed by two of ND, bozo, worcej, in that order of likelihood. You'd additionally have noticed days of actively questioning people, explaining my thoughts, and discussing others'. You also responded directly to my post where I gave several more reasons go vote for you, and the one where I explained the differences between our votes, so I'm assuming you're aware of those on some level.

[worcej]

@ghug - You say you are town, but you are really leaving it all up to Squigs to try to do all the heavy lifting. Either you aren't the expert you are purported to be...or you are scum. Which one is it?

The problem I have is this game feels like a town self-destruction, leading me to look at Durga as the driver into the shit-hole and then 2 people just lurking below her to be deep threats.

rdrivera2005 and bozo fit that lurking bill really well. Rdr's initial reads placed Squigs/Yav/Damo as the scum (N3 before reveal) and all of them have been confirmed town. He has consistently pushed flash now for 3 days until the DrCJG CC and picked the right guy. Bozo's top scum reads were also all town in hindsight. The interaction/discussion he had with Damo regarding a CC on Demon during N4 ('1/2 day' before DrCJG did it) now makes me think he was part of the planning of Demon's move he made on D4.

ND really put his effort into D1/N1/D2/N2 (58% of his total posting) and has proceeded to slightly contribute since then. I think his analysis on how the scum are operating is similar to my own, but that is NAI at this point.

Really, the only people I feel confident that are town right now are Squigs (ez mode) and Flash. Borderline with ND and bo_. Possible scum in ghug or Rdr. Fairly confident scum in bozo and Durga.

[Durga]

You've acknowledged you have shit skills in terms of reads, the people on me again with you were flash who literally said he was voting me because why not, and damo, who just plain sucks. Not even the scum team is trying to scum read me this time. Please just stop.

Everyone's scum reads in hindsight have been town. You can't scum read people based on that solely. What part of bozo's interaction with damo was sus to you? I'm curious to see if I'm overlooking something here.

[ND]

I decided I'm voting Durga tomorrow. This is not the same town Durga from last game. Big change.

[Durga]

I decided I'm voting Durga tomorrow. This is not the same town Durga from last game. Big change.

What's the change?

[ND]

I don't remember you being so openly aggressive and hostile last game. Sure, you were a bit when heavily provoked, but this time seems over the top. Not genuine.

[Durga]

I don't remember you being so openly aggressive and hostile last game. Sure, you were a bit when heavily provoked, but this time seems over the top. Not genuine.

You might wanna reread last game bby

[flash2015]

Please show me all this expert analysis you have been doing. All I see is "vote Flash because he voted the same way as me". There is more than one person in a scum team, you more than anyone know that! Who are the rest?

If you actually cared enough to read carefully, you'd see that I said just a few hours ago that the team is you, followed by two of ND, bozo, worcej, in that order of likelihood. You'd additionally have noticed days of actively questioning people, explaining my thoughts, and discussing others'. You also responded directly to my post where I gave several more reasons go vote for you, and the one where I explained the differences between our votes, so I'm assuming you're aware of those on some level.

OK, getting you out of your little tunnel for a while, why those three then? Your last actual detailed post was N5...which was lots of words but very little information

[Squigs44]

I don't remember you being so openly aggressive and hostile last game. Sure, you were a bit when heavily provoked, but this time seems over the top. Not genuine.

I think Durga was more hostile to you last game than anything she has done here.

[bo_sox48]

The guy's IQ is the square root of Bo's.

The square root of 0 is still 0.

[Durga]

I don't remember you being so openly aggressive and hostile last game. Sure, you were a bit when heavily provoked, but this time seems over the top. Not genuine.

I think Durga was more hostile to you last game than anything she has done here.

You were scum with ND last game albeit not for long. What do you think?

[ghug]

Please show me all this expert analysis you have been doing. All I see is "vote Flash because he voted the same way as me". There is more than one person in a scum team, you more than anyone know that! Who are the rest?

If you actually cared enough to read carefully, you'd see that I said just a few hours ago that the team is you, followed by two of ND, bozo, worcej, in that order of likelihood. You'd additionally have noticed days of actively questioning people, explaining my thoughts, and discussing others'. You also responded directly to my post where I gave several more reasons go vote for you, and the one where I explained the differences between our votes, so I'm assuming you're aware of those on some level.

OK, getting you out of your little tunnel for a while, why those three then? Your last actual detailed post was N5...which was lots of words but very little information

If you want to have a discussion in good faith, stop with the pot shots. They're woefully inaccurate and they just make you look foolish. You should also respond to my questions when I ask you instead of deflecting like you've done all game.

Now:
Squigs is town.
I townread Durga, she's emotional, self-interested, and comfortable in her posting.
I townread bo. His voting record is solid, he's also emotional in a way I'd expect from town bo.
I townread rd. His lurk seems to be the result of recent Brazilian elections, and he pushed RHK on multiple occasions early. I think a bus is unlikely because you don't usually get as much credit for lynching someone when you're not active in pushing the wagon. This is the weakest of my townreads, but I'm not gonna get to lynched my whole scumpool anyway, so I'm not going to consider it too hard.

Then the scumpool, which is part POE and part each of them being specifically scummy:
worcej's logic is consistently shit. He helped save RHK day one. He ended off-wagon day two. He strongly townreads flash, which is meaningfully sketchy at this point. He did pass the box to a townie, he didn't blindly sheep Squigs when he voted RHK day 5, and he wanted to lynch RHK or flash D4, so he's the bottom here.
bozo also helped save RHK day one. He worked to lynch damo D6. He blindly sheeped Squigs D5. He's also relatively quiet.
ND looked good early, but now he's not contributing much, and every time he does, he adds people to the pool of people he wants to lynch with flimsy reasoning in a way that seems like he's just trying to throw things at the wall because he wins if anything sticks.
Flash I've harped on at length, he's refused to give reads all game, he's deflected aggressively when questioned, he's got a bad voting record, he's consistently avoided lynches, and he's recently moved to taunting us with complaints that we haven't lynched him.


Now, flash, you haven't given us your opinions all game. Are you ready to change that?

[ghug]

The guy's IQ is the square root of Bo's.

The square root of 0 is still 0.

I figured it was more 4, 16, but that works too.