MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[worcej]

Also, 90% sure BB will get upset at GT comments

[worcej]

Also, 90% sure BB will get upset at GT comments

[worcej]

Weird double post…

[worcej]

Im ending because im scum.

Civ 7 is fun! Played a great game as Machiavelli. Lots of other leaders and civs ive not even tried yet

Not hot take: the civilization series is garbage

[SpiritoftheRadio]

if i could minus one a post, I would

[worcej]

They really don't wanna kill food, huh? I think they're hoping he'll kill me in a final 3, all I can think of. Or someone is the real PR and hasn't countered which would make no sense after vecna died.

##vote brainbomb

TBF, someone had to die other than food and really it comes down. I respect that BB + one of you chose me over ND for F3.

Or you go big brain (pun intended) and push food into F3

[worcej]

if i could minus one a post, I would

I’ll just use my planet cracker to blow your civilization up.

[worcej]

##call GM - is this a short night or long one?

[worcej]

Also, calling it now: BB was the tamperer and tampered himself to get the goon flip result to drive further speculation.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

Also, calling it now: BB was the tamperer and tampered himself to get the goon flip result to drive further speculation.

Him being goon fits with the narrative we got from vecna and why he melted down in the first place. The tin foil theory here only works if you are scum since him flipping goon implicates bozo as the other mafia PR, so it would only benefit him if he wants the bozo to happen, i.e. you're scum. Just letting you know.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

Also, calling it now: BB was the tamperer and tampered himself to get the goon flip result to drive further speculation.

it does feel like a BB move, but also the goon flips would have happened much earlier I feel

[worcej]

Also, calling it now: BB was the tamperer and tampered himself to get the goon flip result to drive further speculation.

Him being goon fits with the narrative we got from vecna and why he melted down in the first place. The tin foil theory here only works if you are scum since him flipping goon implicates bozo as the other mafia PR, so it would only benefit him if he wants the bozo to happen, i.e. you're scum. Just letting you know.

No it doesn’t, BB melts down because he was going to be handed over, something Vecna didn’t expect.

You also cannot take everything Vecna said has gospel - he was telling half-truths to try to get us to bite at his proposal. Notice how he kept his information on the target as he went to the grave

[worcej]

Also, calling it now: BB was the tamperer and tampered himself to get the goon flip result to drive further speculation.

it does feel like a BB move, but also the goon flips would have happened much earlier I feel

Why would the goon flip happen earlier?

[SpiritoftheRadio]

Also, calling it now: BB was the tamperer and tampered himself to get the goon flip result to drive further speculation.

it does feel like a BB move, but also the goon flips would have happened much earlier I feel

Why would the goon flip happen earlier?

My take was a chaos flip on a towny day kill would be better to send us down false rabbit holes early on, but now I realize they'd have to know who was going to flip and risk losing the ability on it. I honestly read the text for that role for the first time after you mentioned it, all the focus was on the lie detectors in the beginning I dont think i even looked at it. Still don't think its terribly likely BB was tampered, but idk.

[Jamiet99uk]

##call GM - is this a short night or long one?

Slightly short.

Night will end tonight at the usual phase time.

Bot:

Day has ended early.

[Jamiet99uk]

DAY HAS ENDED EARLY

[dargorygel]

MOVE DEADLINE 2D EARLIER

[dargorygel]

DEADLINE MOVED 2 D EARLIER

[dargorygel]

(BOT note... I am sure you have all figured this out, but the bot is counting the posts done between the Early End and the 'two hours early' as happening during the day... thus my post is the first of the night, which is, of course, not accurate.)

[bozotheclown]

I can assure you if there is a witch he would know everyones allignment by now.

I can confidently say this, because i am in fact a witch, and I know everyones allignment and role.

Mafia has also known my identity since N3, and theyve known theyre dealing with a witch since then as well. Theyre trying to make town do their dirty work, or theyre trying to make me their puppet because they realize I need them to kill the last town PR.

Allowing either of that to happen goes directly against my wincon.

Im not really the kingmaking type either, but I realize that my path to victory is very unlikelym, but there is still a small chance if I try to puppeteer things myself.

Assuming competent scum play, they will never kill the town PR before me, so I need to attempt to direct things in a way that still gives every party a shot to win.

Like Ghug said, the drudgeries of 3 party diplomacy.

alright time for some more disclosure.

I visited the mafia lie detector N1. I will talk about all the mechanics involved in a bit. I redirected the action to [REDACTED].

On all subsequent nights i visited townies (VT's). And have not been able to redirect anything. Last night i visited foodcoats to 100% guarantee no shenanigans took place there. I couldve let him self-heal but that wouldnt have helped, because sadly for my role, regardless of whether he gets roleblocked, or bewitched to self-heal, he can just self-heal again the next night.

The N2 RB would not have prevented Vecna from learning the alignment of who he visited N2, so he had 5 chances to check alignments. With foodcoats claiming PR, if he had targeted any 2 of the remaining players at that point, he should have been able to determine everyone's alignment, so that part seems true.

Vecna ended up placing a critical vote in getting DiplomacyandWarfare DKed D2, who turned out to be a mafia PR, so it is possible he visited DiplomacyandWarfare N1 instead of the remaining mafia.