MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[brainbomb]

Im playing just fine.

What a weird response to me calling you scum lol

this just feels like an ordinary TvT dumpsterfire to me.

Lists worcej and I as town/town now here.

[bozotheclown]

@Bozo

Vecna is claiming witch not warlock.

I know, but that does not mean that it is true.

[brainbomb]

im completely blank on ND as well, the way he just laid down to take it earlier feels completely alien to me, but it did work and im really not feeling a vote there.

This sort of vibes with how a 3p would save a scum for later if he knew their true identity, wanting town to hemorrage a few first

[ND]

Fair

[ND]

my previous post was in response to bozo not the endless scum brain mafioso vomit.

[brainbomb]

Youre sure doing a great job of winning friends among the people who hate the community and value easy answers over effort

[ND]

@Brain: I don't know what that is supposed to mean. You have already admitted to being scum.

[brainbomb]

Town dont need to keep repeating themself over and over. Youve put in no effort to solve anything or presented anything. Thus youre scum backed against a wall.

[brainbomb]

ghug (4) - SpiritoftheRadio, brainbomb, JustAGuyNamedWill, Vecna
JustAGuyNamedWill (2) - ND, foodcoats
brainbomb (2) - ghug, worcej
ND (1) - bozotheclown
bozotheclown (1) - DemonRHK

Ghug is set to be flipped.[*]

Assume Vecna is PR
Then food is scum with ND based on this

Assume Vecna is 3p then mafia is not even voting for ghug and its worcej and ND fanned out or bozo and worcej fanned out.

[ND]

@everyone

Like I said, everything Brain says or does is going to be to try and confuse the record.

Work on figuring out his team mate and wait for Vecna disclosures.

/yawn

[brainbomb]

Alright, I'm going in a tunnel.

I forward the theory that not only is bozo mafia, but he is the goon.

Reasoning for the goon finger specifically:

If we DK a town or mafia PR D1, does that mean that it would be impossible for a witch to win by win condition 2?

Now this doesn't mean anything by itself, but working the line that he is mafia, this may have been a musing aloud with Dip in second place at 3 votes. (ND was in the lead at 4, if that make s a difference)

From there, bozo goes on a long run on sowing doubt around the dip case. He has a long meta discussion about dip with brain on 34:

M87 where he was on the Angel team, multiball game

I tried to look at it on the bot, but that was before he changed his user name, and his old name somehow confuses the bot. I think that was why he changed his user name during M88 (where he was also mafia, but subbed in).

The similarity is not really there he was super try hard which I liken to being new. Here the posts are just too unserious. Will said it best and I think Will tends to be pretty surgical

DiplomacyandWarfare's mafia games are obscured by the bot. I was in M88, but DiplomacyandWarfare subbed into a slot that was essentially mechanically caught by the cop. DiplomacyandWarfare was town in the last game I played, and I don't remember him being overly serious.

A bit of a stretch, admittedly, but this downplays the closeness at the time:

tied 4 ND to 4 Red, then dip with 3, 10mins left, get to stepping

Considering the self vote, I would say Red Neurax is the lead wagon.

After this bozo dips until EoD-4 to drop a naked vote for red. This was a hardcore pile on vote (makes it 8-3 to a building worc flash)

After this bozo vanishes until over a quarter of the way into D2. There are a flurry of posts on 55 and 56 ranging from the generic 'oopsie' post:

Sorry Red Neurax.

(Heck damo, apparently)
To some real JV level monday morning quarterbacking:

Well I was sure Red was scum after that last-second tie vote, so that's disappointing.

Considering he was a town PR, trying to tie the vote to save himself was a reasonable move. If D1 was not extended by 10 seconds, the vote would have been tied.

If you thought Red Neurax was likely scum at the point, why didn't you change your vote to try to break the tie?

Then there is THIS pile of poo-poo that looks real bad to me post dip flip:

##VOTE DIP

sorry worcej wagoners I want this over worcej a teensy bit

It was very unlikely DiplomacyandWarfare would be DKed with 1 minute to go. Why didn't you vote your preference between worcej and Red Neurax?

Then we are back a few pages later to shade everyone over the D1 flip (Dip included), disappears again, pops back up 2 hours from EoD

Finally, at 44 minutes out, he votes will, making it Dip 5 Will 3. Dip himself, notably, is off wagon, making it a realistic 5-4. Bozo then spends the last hour hammering the Will vote trying to sell it to people. Sticks around for about 10 minutes post flip and dips.

pops back up before EoN with an analysis of voters. Again fingering Will.

Dominated most of 84 quoting and interpreting dip posts. In my current tunnel, it looks like bozo is trying to be revisionist.

The rest of D3 is more positing regarding the people and their distance to the dip votes. Admittedly, this run feels better than most of what was done to this point, even if bozo was voting me.

This hits odd:

miminena was the player from among those who never voted for D&W that I thought had the best chance of being mafia, so I suspect both remaining mafia voted for D&W D2.

This feels like shading a down townie, and trying to drive a narrative for the D2

That brings us to D4. Mainly going over the pirates kill. More Will bashing.

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While not as slam dunk as I like my tunnels to seeming be, Imma keep drink the koolaid. Bozo has been trying to make sure the sip analysis and history fits the narrative they want. I will not be changing my vote because this is the wagon I want.

Also, to the question bozo asked, brain leaving the wagon causing dip to lose steam, and Red was becoming a runaway at that point as well. I figured a new option wouldn't hurt.

This post gets RHK murdered if bozo is mafia. Both pirates and rhk had scumreads on bozo just before dying.

[brainbomb]

@everyone

Like I said, everything Brain says or does is going to be to try and confuse the record.

Work on figuring out his team mate and wait for Vecna disclosures.

/yawn

You arent going to get disclosures. And this advice is going to be what prevents people from just solving the game. Of by some miracle you are town you arent trying to get anyone thinking by using fact from this game. If vecna is 3p he isnt going to help scum here so stop pandering for his aid.

[brainbomb]

ND shows a scumtell in that he wants you to sit on your hands doing fuck all until vecna outs a name, at which point ND is going to be voting me regardless of what vecna says becsuse ND isnt town and needs a miskill of just about anyone to make it to the night. I suspect worcej will actually rethink based on what happens and for that I lean town on worcej at present

[bozotheclown]

I can assure you if there is a witch he would know everyones allignment by now.

I can confidently say this, because i am in fact a witch, and I know everyones allignment and role.

Mafia has also known my identity since N3, and theyve known theyre dealing with a witch since then as well. Theyre trying to make town do their dirty work, or theyre trying to make me their puppet because they realize I need them to kill the last town PR.

Allowing either of that to happen goes directly against my wincon.

Im not really the kingmaking type either, but I realize that my path to victory is very unlikelym, but there is still a small chance if I try to puppeteer things myself.

Assuming competent scum play, they will never kill the town PR before me, so I need to attempt to direct things in a way that still gives every party a shot to win.

Like Ghug said, the drudgeries of 3 party diplomacy.

alright time for some more disclosure.

I visited the mafia lie detector N1. I will talk about all the mechanics involved in a bit. I redirected the action to [REDACTED].

On all subsequent nights i visited townies (VT's). And have not been able to redirect anything. Last night i visited foodcoats to 100% guarantee no shenanigans took place there. I couldve let him self-heal but that wouldnt have helped, because sadly for my role, regardless of whether he gets roleblocked, or bewitched to self-heal, he can just self-heal again the next night.

Originally, Vecna said the mafia knew his identify since N3, implying he redirected the N3 NK. However, Vecna then claimed he visited a VT N3. Whatever Vecna is doing, he is definitely fabricating information.

[brainbomb]

Actually ND we both think bozo is scum, you interested?

[brainbomb]

##vote bozo

[brainbomb]

I see you reading the thread and hiding now

[ND]

There isn't a chance in hell I am voting for anyone other than you unless Vecna gives me your partner on a silver plate.

[brainbomb]

There isn't a chance in hell I am voting for anyone other than you unless Vecna gives me your partner on a silver plate.

Whats gonna happen when he doesnt even do that and just lets me die.

You think the game would end immediately there or what?

[brainbomb]

Im thinking you lie detected vecna and know he isnt witch here