MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[worcej]

There's no way, no freaking way, Worcej would still be alive if I was scum. Maybe I wouldn't have killed him N1. But Bunny -a total loser/lurker over someone widely town read on a fishing trip to find a pr. Bull crap.

Why do you think Bunny was killed then?

[ND]

gun to my head.. and like I have to make a decision. Worcej being around means its more likely that he is scum than not. Bozo who is a smart dude and one of the few players I respect probably would have nked a town worcej if Bozo was scum.

[ND]

No idea. It was completely idiotic that they did that and they should be ashamed of that decision. Beyond stupid.

[ND]

it was just a stupid choice and we are back to the same problem because I doubt scum Bozo would do something as stupid as that.

[ND]

scum Vecna might have NKed Bunny, but I really don't think he is scum. And if I did think he was scum then I would have tunneled him for 5 days.

[worcej]

So you have to ask the question, why is he still around. If you are scum then you want to keep things ambiguous for as long as you can. Having people widely town read around when you don't have a clear kill is not smart.

Then again, the scum team could be so stupid that my game theory is just missing them because they are total nitwits.

Maybe I need to start thinking like a simpleton like the rest of you bozos (no offense to Bozotheclown ofc).

I would think you would have a decent memory of the fact that, unless I am a PR and out myself, I rarely die early in games. This isn’t something new…

[ND]

@Worcej: Why did you think it was a genius idea to kill Bunny?

[ND]

I'm not the meta historian like Brainbomb @Worcej. I don't remember the in's and out's of everyone and I haven't played in over a year.

[worcej]

gun to my head.. and like I have to make a decision. Worcej being around means its more likely that he is scum than not. Bozo who is a smart dude and one of the few players I respect probably would have nked a town worcej if Bozo was scum.

I don’t feel like I have been as widely cleared as you’re making it out to be. There is plenty of suspicion and arguments for why I may be scum through the course of this game.

[worcej]

@Worcej: Why did you think it was a genius idea to kill Bunny?

I don’t think it was genius, I also don’t think it was stupid/idiotic like you do.

I think scum could have been PR/3P hunting and his playstyle, in hindsight, was different than normal and that may have been the flag.

[ND]

Spirit or Vecna as 3P

Scum pairing of
Bozo-Worcej
Brain-Worcej
Bozo-Brain
Food-Worcej
Food-Bozo
Food-Brain

Idk it's something like that.

[worcej]

I'm not the meta historian like Brainbomb @Worcej. I don't remember the in's and out's of everyone and I haven't played in over a year.

Okay, so why do you suddenly think I am scum? Just because I wasn’t killed yet?

Same logic applies to Vecna and Bozo if that’s the case.

[worcej]

Spirit or Vecna as 3P

Scum pairing of
Bozo-Worcej
Brain-Worcej
Bozo-Brain
Food-Worcej
Food-Bozo
Food-Brain

Idk it's something like that.

The food suspicion comes off as outrageous to me here. There is little to no chance food is scum at this point.

[ND]

I don't think the same logic applies to other people @Worcej

You made yourself a wagon in a way that other people have not and you have been widely accepted or even soft cleared to a certain extent (by me and others).

Instead of taking a shot in the dark at a total random on a fishing expedition to find a PR (like Bunny) you should have been a clear target.

I know, personally, I would have killed you early. And everyone who suspects me can say, oh 'ND is just saying that' but I would have.

Anyway, we will see who the flip is. Hopefully me.

[ND]

Good. Be outraged.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

2 scum live in ghug, worecj, and bozo. That's my take. Maybe 3p too. ND or bb could be 3p but I just don't see mafia here. Unless we get a counter, food is golden. Vecna seems full town to me. Totally a playstyle read but thats my vibe.

Killing me, ND, or bb tomorrow is dumb. If food lives, he'd be the only dumber kill.

The time has come where we really need to evaluate worecj again. He has been coasting while doing nothing town-like since day 1 and he is the type of player to pull what he did on day 1 for the soft clear until the end game. He has been pushing me tonight and I have been acting towny the whole game.

What do you qualify as town like and not town like? Explain what I am not doing according to you.

You're normally pretty good at catching scum, you havent the entire game. You voting ghug for a bit on day 1, brain for all of day 3. Besides jumping on the dip wagon 5th day 2 and the previously mentioned people, you've voted for town the entirety of the rest of the game, and it can be proven since they've all flipped. You have been pushing brain and will the most, will was town, bb probably is too. I just think par for town worecj is to catch about 2 scum by now and you're really under that this game, even if bb did end up being mafia, this is the worst performance from town worecj I've ever seen. I'm also not seeing much of a good attempt and haven't the whole time. Your push at me was sad and weird. A blind otter caressing me like a fish on its belly could identify me as town. You shouldn't be alive this late as town, as ND has pointed out. And all this points me to the most likely explanation is that you're just evil. I could be wrong, but i think its just the easiest explanation.

[ghug]

So you have to ask the question, why is he still around. If you are scum then you want to keep things ambiguous for as long as you can. Having people widely town read around when you don't have a clear kill is not smart.

Then again, the scum team could be so stupid that my game theory is just missing them because they are total nitwits.

Maybe I need to start thinking like a simpleton like the rest of you bozos (no offense to Bozotheclown ofc).

Oh good he's being weirdly abrasive again.

[SpiritoftheRadio]

vibes

worecj - yeah town, but also isn't he the guy who would do that and then end up being mafia? I'm going to sit on my hands until day 5 when I repeat this argument, you all kill me and then go after him. My honest take when reading EoD was that I would have switched to him as a wagon, but also if ifs and buts could be candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas

This was from night 1, the time has come, i even gave you an extra day

[ghug]

gun to my head.. and like I have to make a decision. Worcej being around means its more likely that he is scum than not. Bozo who is a smart dude and one of the few players I respect probably would have nked a town worcej if Bozo was scum.

I've said some mean things about bozo but calling him one of the few players ND respects is next level shade.

[worcej]

2 scum live in ghug, worecj, and bozo. That's my take. Maybe 3p too. ND or bb could be 3p but I just don't see mafia here. Unless we get a counter, food is golden. Vecna seems full town to me. Totally a playstyle read but thats my vibe.

Killing me, ND, or bb tomorrow is dumb. If food lives, he'd be the only dumber kill.

The time has come where we really need to evaluate worecj again. He has been coasting while doing nothing town-like since day 1 and he is the type of player to pull what he did on day 1 for the soft clear until the end game. He has been pushing me tonight and I have been acting towny the whole game.

What do you qualify as town like and not town like? Explain what I am not doing according to you.

You're normally pretty good at catching scum, you havent the entire game. You voting ghug for a bit on day 1, brain for all of day 3. Besides jumping on the dip wagon 5th day 2 and the previously mentioned people, you've voted for town the entirety of the rest of the game, and it can be proven since they've all flipped. You have been pushing brain and will the most, will was town, bb probably is too. I just think par for town worecj is to catch about 2 scum by now and you're really under that this game, even if bb did end up being mafia, this is the worst performance from town worecj I've ever seen. I'm also not seeing much of a good attempt and haven't the whole time. Your push at me was sad and weird. A blind otter caressing me like a fish on its belly could identify me as town. You shouldn't be alive this late as town, as ND has pointed out. And all this points me to the most likely explanation is that you're just evil. I could be wrong, but i think its just the easiest explanation.

Okay, let’s be real here… I am shit at catching scum and I know it. I tunnel onto specific things and struggle to break from that view. This game, it was the brain vs will D1 VCA that I needed to be resolved.

Scuming players for voting for mostly town players is a weird one because, quite frankly, scum would be intentionally sprinkling in votes on teammates to drive distance, even engage with them intentionally to create the distancing that you (spirit) are benefiting from.

Circling back to my town meta, the expectation that I would have caught 2 scum by now is outrageous for any “good” player. Forming a case and catching one scum is a serious accomplishment in this game.

In summary, much of what you just said is meta-opinion that I think is weirdly pointed to justify killing me next phase outside of actual facts.

Ghug/bozo/Vecna/Food/BB - please weigh in on this.