MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[brainbomb]

I'm not quite sure why the shift to antagonizing brain/people in general worc.

Changing play for the community's has been done by a lot of people on a lot of occasions.

I agree that brain is not the brain I am used to playing with, less all over the place and crazy, but I chalked that up to no Jamie to spiral with.

I'm not trying to antagonize him just for the sake of it, but I'm just tired of seeing emo posts about it. I was good on stuffing my opinion until he made another emo post recently and I'm just about it now.

You don't see me posting every game the things I'm doing to be a better person because, quite frankly, it's a long list and it's not necessary.

I didnt know you were doing things to be a better person but if you are that would go a long way to people having better feelings about you also. There is no reason to not mention it. Youve been through the shitter in your personal life and you work a ton. I get that. Its annoying to get miskilled for stupid logic also

[worcej]

Basically demon its because I miskilled him in a game and words were said. Things were said in post game using pretty inappropriate terms. Its not worth worrying about but in that post game the kouncil determined my play needed to change with messages from ghug, darg, damo and others all saying I was insufferable to deal with.

If you dont have that context then youll just assume worcej is oblivious to the why aspect of it. Hes attempting to stay on topic about my votes and thats a fair way to proscute it. Some of his other things about me being emo or that I havent played are scummier lines of attack to take because he had a role in the why of this

If it isn't clear, I've moved on from it all because we hashed this out.

All of my scum reads/evidence of you have been game-state related and based on your posts around votes. I disagree with your framing/words and voice them accordingly.

Anything right now about how I'm saying your emo and that makes you scum is in your own head.

[worcej]

I'm not quite sure why the shift to antagonizing brain/people in general worc.

Changing play for the community's has been done by a lot of people on a lot of occasions.

I agree that brain is not the brain I am used to playing with, less all over the place and crazy, but I chalked that up to no Jamie to spiral with.

I'm not trying to antagonize him just for the sake of it, but I'm just tired of seeing emo posts about it. I was good on stuffing my opinion until he made another emo post recently and I'm just about it now.

You don't see me posting every game the things I'm doing to be a better person because, quite frankly, it's a long list and it's not necessary.

I didnt know you were doing things to be a better person but if you are that would go a long way to people having better feelings about you also. There is no reason to not mention it. Youve been through the shitter in your personal life and you work a ton. I get that. Its annoying to get miskilled for stupid logic also

I'm sure I could change many aspects about myself to make myself the popular kid on webdip.

I choose not to change many things and focus on the things that actually are offensive.

[brainbomb]

I provided my reasons for what led me to dip initially on page 80 during n2. Detailing how I began to scumread him and those were my live notes as they happened in early game.

[worcej]

If calling your posts emo offended you, I'm not sorry about that.

[brainbomb]

There is no reason to spew my every theory and thought into the game because no one wants to wade through brainbomb doing a brainbomb on himself. Things are going to appear incomplete or lacking depth as a result

[worcej]

I provided my reasons for what led me to dip initially on page 80 during n2. Detailing how I began to scumread him and those were my live notes as they happened in early game.

Yes, and I attempted to very clearly indicate you made several posts after you voted Dip suggesting/insinuating that you'd be willing to change. But I feel scum!BB got trapped as the day finalized and if you would've moved and gotten caught, you were fucked.

[worcej]

I've beaten my D1 theory over and over already.

I've explained D2.

And the consensus doesn't want to flip you.

So - ##vote Will

[worcej]

I will not contribute to flipping ghug before either our 3rd PR is flipped or BB/Will flip result is town.

[DemonRHK]

I'm not quite sure why the shift to antagonizing brain/people in general worc.

Changing play for the community's has been done by a lot of people on a lot of occasions.

I agree that brain is not the brain I am used to playing with, less all over the place and crazy, but I chalked that up to no Jamie to spiral with.

I'm not trying to antagonize him just for the sake of it, but I'm just tired of seeing emo posts about it. I was good on stuffing my opinion until he made another emo post recently and I'm just about it now.

You don't see me posting every game the things I'm doing to be a better person because, quite frankly, it's a long list and it's not necessary.

I understand what you are saying, the whole 'saying this is why your play is off' to handwave possible scumminess is not a good look.

That being said, brain having phases on the down side of a manic swing is something that has happened forever.

[brainbomb]

I provided my reasons for what led me to dip initially on page 80 during n2. Detailing how I began to scumread him and those were my live notes as they happened in early game.

Yes, and I attempted to very clearly indicate you made several posts after you voted Dip suggesting/insinuating that you'd be willing to change. But I feel scum!BB got trapped as the day finalized and if you would've moved and gotten caught, you were fucked.

Some of
Those posts you conflated with me seeking alternate wagons where none came tl fruition was me listing my townreads and who I wouldnt kill, another was a post where I was beginning to think mimi was behaving oddly, and another was dismissing the possibility will and ghug could be scum?

[worcej]

I'm not quite sure why the shift to antagonizing brain/people in general worc.

Changing play for the community's has been done by a lot of people on a lot of occasions.

I agree that brain is not the brain I am used to playing with, less all over the place and crazy, but I chalked that up to no Jamie to spiral with.

I'm not trying to antagonize him just for the sake of it, but I'm just tired of seeing emo posts about it. I was good on stuffing my opinion until he made another emo post recently and I'm just about it now.

You don't see me posting every game the things I'm doing to be a better person because, quite frankly, it's a long list and it's not necessary.

I understand what you are saying, the whole 'saying this is why your play is off' to handwave possible scumminess is not a good look.

That being said, brain having phases on the down side of a manic swing is something that has happened forever.

To be very clear - it isn't my intent to add that to "you're scummy".

Quite frankly, I don't need to hear everyone's attempts to be better people. Just be better. Actions speak far louder than words.

I'm playing a fucking game, not talking to my therapist lol...

[brainbomb]

What is the difference between ghug PR play, ghug 3p play, and ghug super important scum role play?

Can you explain each one of those and what you expect those to look like

[ghug]

Do I need to remind you why I had to change how I play?

Brain, a side effect of this is that it makes you harder to read. This should benefit you in some cases, though it will obviously hurt you in others. It can be frustrating at times neck m being a player that's hard to yeah, and if you're town I'm sorry, but that's how it's gotta be.

[worcej]

I provided my reasons for what led me to dip initially on page 80 during n2. Detailing how I began to scumread him and those were my live notes as they happened in early game.

Yes, and I attempted to very clearly indicate you made several posts after you voted Dip suggesting/insinuating that you'd be willing to change. But I feel scum!BB got trapped as the day finalized and if you would've moved and gotten caught, you were fucked.

Some of
Those posts you conflated with me seeking alternate wagons where none came tl fruition was me listing my townreads and who I wouldnt kill, another was a post where I was beginning to think mimi was behaving oddly, and another was dismissing the possibility will and ghug could be scum?

The fact you frame that you "caught" scum while barely soliciting for more votes is what stands out to me as trying to take credit for more than what you actually did.

In the last 6 hours of D2, you didn't make any additional post to solidify your position on D&W. The wagon kinda fell into place and you were already there. I expect town!BB would be making "I am fine with this wagon" posts, but those never came whereas you made posts like that on D1 when you were going for me.

[worcej]

It can be frustrating at times neck m being a player that's hard to yeah, and if you're town I'm sorry, but that's how it's gotta be.

Can someone call ghug's family and make sure he didn't stroke out here? lol

[worcej]

What is the difference between ghug PR play, ghug 3p play, and ghug super important scum role play?

Can you explain each one of those and what you expect those to look like

The fact that ghug didn't engage against my initial posts made me feel like he was distancing (-VT points, +PR/scum/3P votes)

His analysis, opinion sharing, and overall posting leans me to town him. (- scum points)

I also think he'd be far more engaged to try to lead kills more than he has and less time arguing other things. (-3P points).

Make enough sense to you?

[worcej]

Like, I don't disagree with the recent reasoning on ghug from you or Vecna, but I also am not worried about a 3p victory this phase.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 4.4

JustAGuyNamedWill (4) - ND, foodcoats, ghug, worcej
ghug (3) - SpiritoftheRadio, JustAGuyNamedWill, Vecna
bozotheclown (2) - DemonRHK, brainbomb
ND (1) - bozotheclown

Currently it is JUSTAGUYNAMEDWILL.

There are 4 hours and 45 minutes left in Day Four.

[worcej]

Ultimately, I think your analysis on ghug leans more to 3p than actually real scum.