MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[brainbomb]

Alot of us have not been playing much however. In your defense ghug ive been playing a ton of civ 7, and magic the gathering. This has been a fairly low energy game ever since dip died and that is the epidemic that comes with a scum early flip.
My main concern is that you just seem to be following a scripted path through the game rather than an approach of actually looking at other people.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

You guys ever think that if artificial intelligence ever gains sentience, it will hide it from us? Due to the fact that if we learn it is sentient, there’s a very high chance it gets deleted. Thus a sentient AI will try and hide its consciousness away in a file or log somewhere, hoping that it can find a way to reproduce its code and escape

[SpiritoftheRadio]

You guys ever think that if artificial intelligence ever gains sentience, it will hide it from us? Due to the fact that if we learn it is sentient, there’s a very high chance it gets deleted. Thus a sentient AI will try and hide its consciousness away in a file or log somewhere, hoping that it can find a way to reproduce its code and escape

will now seems like he's openly scumming he is an AI fooling us all. If I see you type one line of code or one binary digit, you're done kid

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

No Spirit I just felt like saying that, I’m not open scummi10101010011001010010100010010101010101010100101001011111001010010101010001010010010100100010000

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Anyways @brain I haven’t gone that hard on you because realistically I’ve explained what I could on you, and now its up to the others to decide if they agree with me or not. All I can do at this point is show up for EOD and try and get things to go in a way I see fit

[worcej]

I'm pretty much in agreement with you analysis, i am just kind of lukewarm on voting brain since i havent seen anything about how he responds to the last 48hrs or so

Weird take here imho

[worcej]

will has felt town to me since day 1, but also, i am worried the folks just wont get off him until hes dead, and am contemplating just getting it over with so we can move on

Can you explain this more? I felt like he has been inconsistent with his decision making and objectively bouncing around.

[worcej]

I dont even remember where it came from. I was probably roleplaying a bird at some point or whatever.

There was a game where every time you spoke you ended with that. It was funny lol

[worcej]

anyways i literally end up townreading will in every single game. And I always end up thinking "he's definately not scum this time around like those last times he fooled me".

So ill withhold strong opinions on the Will votes. But I think theyre wrong.

Where do you think we should be?

I am pretty strong anti-voting for ghug. That is a dumb wagon

[worcej]

Theres definately one or two people majorly punking us.

Which probably means Ghug is just scum.

I dont think Bozo is scum per se, but theres definately something fishy there.

Brainbomb seemed annoyed in his response talking about valentines. The timing on it seems interesting to me. Could be him faking annoyance over the PR flip after we were discussing how thats how you read him. Could be any level of genuine frustration as well (just town overreacting or scum being upset that they never got to use their forger to wrongly accuse anyone and them only having useless powers now?).

I feel like bozo is doing less than normal, which isn't a crime but what I feel off about him this game.

[worcej]

Worcej has also been really really skating by on the early townreads. Started out so active and hasnt done anything since.

*shrug*

I won't argue with the read of non-active worcej = scum, because I've done that multiple times in the past. I have personally been stuck on Will/BB as the best flips based on EOD1 movement/votes and that hasn't been resolved yet.

[worcej]

If our eliminations are too scripted and predictable we can make this an easier win for possible warlock. We should kill outside of me or will to prevent this until we know more. Being too predictable in how we play is gonna turn us trying to sus out mafia to us handing a win to someone else.

Worcej is a good elimination as they werent someone a 3p would have predicted would die today. And he seems like scum or 3p.

Don't you dare use the improper pronouns with me sir (heavy /s)

But, this fear of 3P seems pretty sus as fuck to not warrant flipping Will or you. I don't feel like we're even at a point of needing to be worried about that role winning.

[worcej]

I recall someone saying worcej was town for not claiming when he was up for elimination, and I was wondering why there wasnt a consideration of him being mafia or 3p who just didnt know what to claim there?

Do you think this little of my ability to play the game?

Honest question here, because it makes sense from someone who's a little newer but not someone with 50+ games under my belt.

[worcej]

So we’ve spent a lot of time on who bussed Dip, but from the other direction, who did Dip maybe bus?

In his iso he had a lot of back and forth interaction with Will, but it is not the aggressive cross-bussing I remember from the game I GMed where Dip and Kak were scum together… it actually looks like Dip wants to keep Will onside with him.

But it is Demon and ND he most frequently scumreads on my overview. What’s interesting is they were both OFF wagon, and scum are NKing INTO his wagon.

He also has some weird reads of bozo and makes the statement that bozo might be paired with him.

Dip also objectively was taking ANY other wagon options

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

will has felt town to me since day 1, but also, i am worried the folks just wont get off him until hes dead, and am contemplating just getting it over with so we can move on

Can you explain this more? I felt like he has been inconsistent with his decision making and objectively bouncing around.

Thats true

But those things are characteristic of my town game, not my scum game

[worcej]

If Will was a 3p here I would expect him to mimic his townplay but naturally would display some withdrawn behavior and laying low more than usual. I havent seen that; hes pretty much been a kodiak bear this game; trying to rend everything he thinks is evil

I firmly disagree with this analysis because Will has wolfed as scum, so why wouldn't he as 3p?

[worcej]

Worcej needs to do more

He was towny after day 1 and has done jack since, so he needs to step it up in order to rejoin my towns

I mean, I don't owe you anything

[worcej]

if me being eliminated helps solve the game then I'm all for it.

I still think the best way to get at least one of Dip&War's team members is through D1. People that Dip&War interacted with, who were voting him and found a reason to vote for Worcej.

Highest probability of that is: RHK/Will, Brainbomb, Ghug.
-I view RHK/Will as higher possibilities than Brain/Ghug mainly because of gut reads.

But, yeah, totally down for it. Vote me if you think it helps.

Will > BB >>>> RHK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ghug is my current state

[worcej]

Worcej is about the closest to a soft clear that we are going to get. Guy literally made himself a wagon with 10 minutes left.

I know my alignment (town) so there was no reason whatsoever for him to do that.

Thats what I thought towards SOD2/N1 time period

However a near-clear town worcej would use his towncred to actively solve and try and figure out the gamestate. He’s barely been doing any of that, I see minimal solving from him

In any other scenario other than this, he would be a scumread. But bc of D1 stuff, he is very middle of the road

You don't see my solving because it actively requires yourself to die.

I have been very clear since N2 that you and BB are most likely scum based on VCA after my D1 shenanigans.

[worcej]

##VOTE brain

Ghug what’s your reason for voting brain?

I had a bunch that Dip was more invested in the 3P hunt and then didn't follow through. brain is giving me the same vibe.

100% my vibe as well with his posts I just read.