MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[bozotheclown]

miminena was the player from among those who never voted for D&W that I thought had the best chance of being mafia, so I suspect both remaining mafia voted for D&W D2.

[ghug]

If I tell everyone I’m hellbussing both my teammates will y’all follow me onto brain please

I'm not even against killing brain I just think you're being weird.

[foodcoats]

Damn, sorry Mimi. GG.

[foodcoats]

##VOTE mimi

Avoid tie

???

this is uh...

three minutes after ghug broke the tie

Mimi could’ve moved her vote to create a tie.

[foodcoats]

well ok lol, food you're def scum

I’m excited to hear the case!

[foodcoats]

Crap. Sorry mimi. I take full blame for that one.

Demon, why do you feel you have “full” blame for mimi’s miskill?

[DemonRHK]

Crap. Sorry mimi. I take full blame for that one.

Demon, why do you feel you have “full” blame for mimi’s miskill?

I was the one that pushed the wagon. Ghug was first on but didn't push it, and the bailed for a while. That looks like full blame to me.

[DemonRHK]

Funny story, mafia appeared in my dream last night.

I had posted a picture of one of my kittens, but then was scumread for it because there was a compose post in the background I had never posted. Not related to the game obviously, but I did get a chuckle out of it.

[foodcoats]

miminena was the player from among those who never voted for D&W that I thought had the best chance of being mafia, so I suspect both remaining mafia voted for D&W D2.

DiplomacyandWarfare (8) brainbomb JustAGuyNamedWill kingofthepirates Vecna worcej SpiritoftheRadio ghug BunnyGo
JustAGuyNamedWill (3) DemonRHK bozotheclown DiplomacyandWarfare
ghug (2) foodcoats miminena
DemonRHK (1) ND

We'll have more info after tonight but I at least agree it can't be that all three scum were on Just.

Of note, both brain and Just were sussing Dip D1. Both brain and Just had pretty involved explanations of why Dip was scum on D1, referring to his meta, whereas the other Dip votes - Bunny, Demon, ghug - didn't have a lot to say. Those last three actually feel like much townier votes on a re-read. We should either be sheeping brain and Just for their god-like ability to pierce the veil of meta and identify scum, or we should be wondering how they were so certain about Dip D1 compared to other players, at least one of which we know was town (Bunny).

brain's D2 read on Dip doesn't really change much. He refers to part of Vecna's read and then lists some previous games Dip has played in. Similarly, Just doesn't actually evolve his Dip read - it is the same read as D1.

Comparatively, KotP and worcej both refer to their Dip votes as being informative.

Vecna is a person who seems to have an actual read, identifying that Dip has incongruity between the way he speaks to/about Vecna and Dip's reads list. This is the first time I have seen a vote on Dip that is very clearly about something happening right now in this game that could be scum-aligned, so Vecna's vote here is extremely townie.

Spirit voted Dip because he didn't like Will's wagon. This is also townie.

ghug and Bunny's votes on Dip at the end seem like ensuring no tie.

So, yeah. Now I really wish we had killed brain or Just. Both of them had a level of certainty and meta-explanation about Dip that is at odds with how so many other people voted for Dip. I have a feeling that brainbomb's vote is just a bit scummier than Just's. There is some passion in Just's explanations at times that leans me towards it being townier. That is a passion that brainbomb normally exhibits, but here he has this very dry and not very well explained meta explanation that leans on quoting previous games.

Also, this review reinforces that Vecna is town.

[foodcoats]

It turns out there isn't that much great British doom. Let's have a cameo from Finland, from the greatest doom metal band there ever was. Crush the Insects!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVQnSNh44oU&list=PLKP3P48kiHLn9R-j0I682TYcU3OJgaamw

[Vecna]

I guess my demise is imminent given that certain people are suddenly townreading me quite strongly.

[foodcoats]

I guess my demise is imminent given that certain people are suddenly townreading me quite strongly.

It's a gift, you can play more Civ 7 this way.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Food, it’s not a godlike ability to read meta

Dip just sounded and acted plainly different from his towngame, and the reason me and brain were able to see that is cuz we *decided* to read his two games and compare

Do you think you could read one of Dips row games and see if you also think it’s really different?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Food, it’s not a godlike ability to read meta

Dip just sounded and acted plainly different from his towngame, and the reason me and brain were able to see that is cuz we *decided* to read his two games and compare

Do you think you could read one of Dips row games and see if you also think it’s really different?

town* not two

[foodcoats]

Food, it’s not a godlike ability to read meta

Dip just sounded and acted plainly different from his towngame, and the reason me and brain were able to see that is cuz we *decided* to read his two games and compare

Do you think you could read one of Dips row games and see if you also think it’s really different?

Okay, it was mostly brain who quoted Dip's past games where directly, even though you referred to it. And you seem to still scumread brain. So you think brain went digging for meta reasons to scumread his teammate?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Food, it’s not a godlike ability to read meta

Dip just sounded and acted plainly different from his towngame, and the reason me and brain were able to see that is cuz we *decided* to read his two games and compare

Do you think you could read one of Dips row games and see if you also think it’s really different?

Okay, it was mostly brain who quoted Dip's past games where directly, even though you referred to it. And you seem to still scumread brain. So you think brain went digging for meta reasons to scumread his teammate?

Yes, I do

I think both mafia and town can come up with a meta argument, the reason I scumread brain is that he moved off dip onto worcej and stayed there, and also was an early and stagnant voter on Dip (i know pot kettle) and alongside his performative posting, I belive he is a wolf despite the fact we came to the same conclusion

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Btw if anyone could meta read dips town game and see if I make any sense that would be extremely much appreciated

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE

Just a reminder to send Night Actions to both GMs.

Any night actions submitted so far (if any) will have been logged and do not need to be re-submitted. But anything still to be sent, or any changes to night actions, need to be PMed to both of us, please. I will be offline until about 10 mins before EoN.

[ghug]

I guess my demise is imminent given that certain people are suddenly townreading me quite strongly.

I think you're scum!

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Btw if anyone could meta read dips town game and see if I make any sense that would be extremely much appreciated

Pretty please? With sweetandcool on top?