MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[ghug]

I retract my point, I suppose it wasn't you who initially floated it. Although like I said, even if you had -you still aren't a high possibility for me, but the potential can't be ruled out yet.

It really comes down to Will or RHK as the two best possibilities for me.

For the record, I'm still interested in looking Will, certainly more than brain, though I don't like that wagon either. RHK is also fine, as would be you.

[bozotheclown]

There wasn't much interaction between kingofthepirates and DiplomacyandWarfare. kingofthepirates expressed some suspicion of DiplomacyandWarfare early D2, then voted him near the end of D2, leaving his vote on DiplomacyandWarfare while missing EOD:

so mainly this is done with the intention of looking at all reasons people gave for their various D1 votes, any similarities or interesting patterns. everything after 5 minutes before phase end is scramble time, and i think unlikely to yield any interesting reasons. So while doing it, I realized... there's like 14 people left... so I'm just gonna lookat a few interesting ones (like pivotal votes, 3rd voter, votes from people currently sus'd by others).

dip (idk first in order): switched votes most often (7 times), feels very arbitrary. mostly stuck on red based on lurking (also in general lowkey I hella sus the people on the red wagon who sited lurking as the only reason... that somewhat screams low effort scum reasoning, especially since I think there's much more to it...). Seemed intersted in a bb wagon. is that interest still there?

will: final vote on dip feels random, like there's 2 minutes left, the dip wagon is not gonna take off. Feels like trying to take an opportunity to slip off the dip wagon but also avoid the red wagon.

food: honestly? all the votes here don't seem to bad. red lurk vote is as above ig. but also has past history of doing that so... nia

mimi: "I'll move off when..." votes, I kinda get this mindset. NIA, though I can see how it might look bad in others eyes

gonna go hunt for more, I remember this morning on my phone I checked and someone's votes really ticked me off and buzzed me the wrong way... I'll see if I can find it again.

on reread, it was ghug's votes that tilted me off yesterday morning (sketchy reasons i think it was?). but today it feels better, I was probably too harsh in my judgement back then. I also have no clue what's going on rn.

##vote dip

I think it's one of the more informative flips, others (by which i mean other voters) logic feels sound, and I have a slight hunch/theory that I hope to test.

In reading what you've posted from KotP, the highlighted part is a very interesting set of words to put together about Will's behaviour re: Dip wagon. Is it possible the scum are Will and KotP?

I think they are both reasonable scum suspects based on interaction with and about D&W. The part you highlighted is confusing, because he says "take an opportunity to slip off the dip wagon" when he is talking about Just's vote for D&W. Maybe he meant worcej there. I did agree with the preceding part, Just's voting for D&W at that time was one of the things I found suspicious about Just D2, and it still looks suspicious with D&W flipping mafia. Just could have been trying to stay consistent with his reads if he was bussing D&W.

[bozotheclown]

##Vote DiplomacyandWarfare

Dip is just hitting me in all of the wrong ways. While I still ain't a fan of food, I do admit my vote was memy and super weak. I know this is beating a dead horse from D1, but it's what I feel is right.

Better idea

##Vote Will

next player I'm looking at: demon, the second lowest poster after red neurax
post group 1: "my gimmick is being nice, I claim town, joke posts"
Post group 2: (votes brain) "brain is scummy, shitpost, why is the thread dead"
post group 3: (unvotes) "shitpost, voting vecna seems 'spicy', voting dip for 'movement'"
Post group 4: "I promise that was a crosspost even though I posted over a minute after ND"
post group 5: "guys, I think it's likely dip will vote in self defense if necessary. Worcej suggested we should wagon them, let's do it!"
At no point yesterday did anyone vote demon

...
so that's a lot of shitposts and not a lot of explained reads. I'm inclined to treat this as a rather extreme lurker between the low post count and the low post quality

conclusion: likely scum

DemonRHK voted for D&W D1 EOD without scum reading him, which gave him a reason to move his vote, and his move to worcej helped take D&W out of the running for the D1 DK. Then DemonRHK was scum reading D&W D2 but only briefly voted for him.

D&W was scum reading DemonRHK D2 but never voted for him, and voted for worcej, ND, and SpiritoftheRadio is succession at a time when foodcoats was the lead wagon with 2 votes and he could have put DemonRHK at 2 votes.

##VOTE DemonRHK

[ND]

I'm holding RHK. Back at work. Will try to check thread again sometime today.

[foodcoats]

##Vote DiplomacyandWarfare

Dip is just hitting me in all of the wrong ways. While I still ain't a fan of food, I do admit my vote was memy and super weak. I know this is beating a dead horse from D1, but it's what I feel is right.

Better idea

##Vote Will

next player I'm looking at: demon, the second lowest poster after red neurax
post group 1: "my gimmick is being nice, I claim town, joke posts"
Post group 2: (votes brain) "brain is scummy, shitpost, why is the thread dead"
post group 3: (unvotes) "shitpost, voting vecna seems 'spicy', voting dip for 'movement'"
Post group 4: "I promise that was a crosspost even though I posted over a minute after ND"
post group 5: "guys, I think it's likely dip will vote in self defense if necessary. Worcej suggested we should wagon them, let's do it!"
At no point yesterday did anyone vote demon

...
so that's a lot of shitposts and not a lot of explained reads. I'm inclined to treat this as a rather extreme lurker between the low post count and the low post quality

conclusion: likely scum

DemonRHK voted for D&W D1 EOD without scum reading him, which gave him a reason to move his vote, and his move to worcej helped take D&W out of the running for the D1 DK. Then DemonRHK was scum reading D&W D2 but only briefly voted for him.

D&W was scum reading DemonRHK D2 but never voted for him, and voted for worcej, ND, and SpiritoftheRadio is succession at a time when foodcoats was the lead wagon with 2 votes and he could have put DemonRHK at 2 votes.

##VOTE DemonRHK

I like bozo's analysis, and given that I will be less available today and before EOD, I will consolidate. Although to be frank, I have raised eyebrows about all the current wagons (brainbomb, Just, RHK, mimi), so this will definitely be an interesting day. But there are people on the brain and mimi wagons that I'm less towny on, whereas both bozo and ND seem towny, so joining their wagon feels good.

##VOTE DemonRHK

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 3.2

brainbomb (3) - JustAGuyNamedWill, miminena, worcej
miminena (3) - ghug, DemonRHK, brainbomb
DemonRHK (3) - ND, bozotheclown, foodcoats

The vote is TIED.

There are eight hours and two minutes left in the day.

kingofthepirates, SpiritoftheRadio and Vecna must vote.

[kingofthepirates]

I think I might have to ##vote mimi here.

dip's placement on the readslist and lack of interaction combined just feels so off, it just smells of trying to sneak scum past the radar.

[DemonRHK]

Mornin'

Three close wagons, will be good for info if this holds toward the EoD, good shit.

I got a rando seed I gotta run, will be back in a couple of hours.

[ghug]

Mornin'

Three close wagons, will be good for info if this holds toward the EoD, good shit.

I got a rando seed I gotta run, will be back in a couple of hours.

Odd reaction.

[miminena]

with the way the wagons have developed, bb and I might both be town. if so, I think both mafia are distributed between the two of us.

excluding myself and bb since this analysis assumes we're both town, that leaves ghug, Demon, kotp, Will, and worcej. I think ghug's vote on me was mostly town motivated, given the fact that they've had a consistent slight scumlean throughout night 2 and day 3. I still think Demon is pretty null/slightly town here, mostly vibes so I am willing to reconsider but they're not my preferred vote. worcej also is very towny based on their day 1 chaos

that leaves me at kotp and Will. out of these two, kotp's vote looks very opportunist.

##vote kingofthepirates

I don't necessarily think that kotp and Will are a team, but I think that there's a good chance that at least one of them is mafia, assuming bb is town.

[ND]

Hm

[Vecna]

I need to stop forgetting im playing a game of mafia

[ND]

If you haven't read my prior case then consider it. I don't see the case on mimi is it because they constantly hedge? This most recent vote that mimi made is troubling although I do agree kotp has potential to be scum. Idk how you can vote for someone because their vote looks 'very opportunist'. Whatever that means. I still think their are better candidates than mimi or brain.

[DemonRHK]

Mornin'

Three close wagons, will be good for info if this holds toward the EoD, good shit.

I got a rando seed I gotta run, will be back in a couple of hours.

Odd reaction.

I mean, not really.

If I'm gonna be at risk to die, at the very least we can get some VCA however it goes.

My rando seed went pretty bad, I don't think I'll qualify for the next round.

Anyway, I still think mimi is a good flip.

[ND]

Squawk

[brainbomb]

I need to stop forgetting im playing a game of mafia

Did you catch the civ 7 bug too? I burned at least 20 hours on that game since tuesday.

[Vecna]

I need to stop forgetting im playing a game of mafia

Did you catch the civ 7 bug too? I burned at least 20 hours on that game since tuesday.

nah, just a busy week at work and a few social events

[Vecna]

havent even bought civ7 and seeing the reviews, i dont think I will untill a massive sale

[brainbomb]

Its actually pretty fun. But where are you at with this game? Havent seen much from you since the dip death

[DemonRHK]

I need to stop forgetting im playing a game of mafia

Did you catch the civ 7 bug too? I burned at least 20 hours on that game since tuesday.

Are you liking it? I get such whiplash. When it's good it's amazing but there are sooo many things I don't like.