MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[foodcoats]

Well done on the catch, team! I thought Dip might've been a PR... wrong side though, lol.

Just a heads up that I'll more or less never be active at EOD because it coincides with my kids' bedtime routine. Give me... three to five years... and I'll be an active chaosball player again.

I'm also playing too many Diplomacy games right now so I'm being lazy and not playing at night. I'll catch up if I survive to the morrow.

[ND]

look it up

[brainbomb]

Wagon study red n2
ghug (3): DiplomacyandWarfare, worcej,JustAGuyNamedWill
Red Neurax (2): SpiritoftheRadio, kingofthepirates
SpiritoftheRadio (2): foodcoats,brainbomb
JustaGuyNamedWill (1): Vecna
ND (1): ghug
worcej (1): damo666
Unvote (2): DemonRHK, miminena

Red wagon created by posts:
Spirit votes Red

Food pushes back against will protector attitude on new players

Didn't you shield Red Neurax last time and he was scum? This is a bad policy.

Spirit lists Red bottom of reads

DiplomacyandWarfare
JustAGuyNamedWill
king​ofthepirates
N.D.
Brainbomb
BunnyGo
damo666
​ miminena
Ghug
DemonRHK
------------------------​-------least town vibes

non-posters:
Red Neurax
Foodcoats
bozo
Vecna

Spirit doesnt even have worcej listed - who was the counterwagon.

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Bunny lists red as being here same as damo
Pirates opens dialogues to Red

Hey red neurax, what do you think of the game so far? Anyone particularly piqued your interest/set off any bells (for town or scum)

Food labels red a lurker.

Red Neurax is a pro lurker…

{is this based on a past game? People keep referencing a past game w red}

Pirates now votes Red

##vote red

wanna see more out of red neurax... some opinions, pls :3

Also bozo, where ya at (webdip last online reads within last 24 hours…

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Damo looks hedgy for giving Red more time and seems skeptical of Spirit and Nd but accusing people of hedging is a epidemic this game. Le sigh.

ND

and Spirit seem to be avoiding making a useful testable alignment statement.

I'll give Red a bit more time.

##vote worcej for making the anti-town version

ND, spirit, red and brain are all possibles.

And ofc Bozo is yet to speak.

Damo lists Red very low on his reads and this could be damo just trying to keep it viable.

Dip votes for Red for lurking:

why is ND self voting
##VOTE red neurax
for lurking

Pirates explanation looks better than other folks:

I’m keeping my vote steady (it was originally a pressure vote); red’s ND vote sealed it for me. Felt halfhearted and far from genuine. Their overall play has also been pretty lukewarm imo

Damo scumreads Red for not cooperating with lie detector phrases.

ND wagon is growing huge, but people are distrustful of reasons for ND being voted.

Mimi thoughts:

honestly, i've warmed up a bit to voting DW while writing this, especially given the alternatives. I don't prefer DW over Red or ND, but they're definitely wagon #3 to me. I guess a lot of the rest of the post is null now, but i'll post it anyways :3

Mimi playing very cautious [redacted]

Food joins

Disagree… I spent a bunch of energy a few games ago explaining the strategic value of D1 lurker kills… won’t repeat now but will

##VOTE Red Neurax

Red voters : damo, food look bad. But spirits reads look the worst for possibly leaving worcej out strategically. Food doesnt give any reasons, and damo leans hard on this whole lie detector stuff which also helps scum possibly. Bad reasons to have tried killing red or to have listed red as so scummy.

[ND]

Anyway, Diplomacy&Warfare's flip does necessitate a revisit to D1 so I'll do that today.

On a side note: I am glad that ghug is actively engaging with the game now. That's good to see. I don't find this necessary to say, but since he has repeatedly brought politics into this and falsely claimed things about me then I am going to respond.

I'm not a fascist. I'm about the farthest thing from it. I have academically studied fascism and actively hate those regimes. I am not a member of any kind of far right hate group and actively despise violence and hatred of all kinds. I support our two party system and our constitutional Republic. I work with Democrats and liberal-minded people. I listen to liberal podcasts and conservative podcasts daily. Both sides have things to offer to improve the lives of people in this country. True, I may not have voted a way that you like -but plenty of people didn't and people in this community didn't. I find your targeting of me for personal reasons just gross honestly especially since you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.

You need to learn how to enjoy a game with people you may disagree with politically and it may do you some good man so chill out. Stop bringing stuff into a game that people are playing to test their deduction skills and just want to get a bit of enjoyment out of. So, I respectively ask you to stop stating things that I am not. You are the only one doing it.

Thanks

[brainbomb]

Theres even more than this. I did deep meta study and comparisons of ghugs d1 town and scum games and ill share that data also. Some of that needs editing. Assuming this is all helpful.

[brainbomb]

The reason I keep my notes and theories to myself now is that in a recent game I was told that I was frustrating to play with, that my theories were impossible to
Respond too and that I was not letting people try to even respond to them. And that I needed to change how I play because my style was not enjoyable to deal with anymore.

So unfortunately I have to reserve and compartmentalize most of my inner thought process elsewhere; leaving a shell of what I think and why.

[brainbomb]

Good news is that it has not adversely impacted my overall performance; if anything its improved it!

[ND]

uh huh

[ND]

You sound like Bing! from like a year ago right now.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Anyway, Diplomacy&Warfare's flip does necessitate a revisit to D1 so I'll do that today.

On a side note: I am glad that ghug is actively engaging with the game now. That's good to see. I don't find this necessary to say, but since he has repeatedly brought politics into this and falsely claimed things about me then I am going to respond.

I'm not a fascist. I'm about the farthest thing from it. I have academically studied fascism and actively hate those regimes. I am not a member of any kind of far right hate group and actively despise violence and hatred of all kinds. I support our two party system and our constitutional Republic. I work with Democrats and liberal-minded people. I listen to liberal podcasts and conservative podcasts daily. Both sides have things to offer to improve the lives of people in this country. True, I may not have voted a way that you like -but plenty of people didn't and people in this community didn't. I find your targeting of me for personal reasons just gross honestly especially since you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.

You need to learn how to enjoy a game with people you may disagree with politically and it may do you some good man so chill out. Stop bringing stuff into a game that people are playing to test their deduction skills and just want to get a bit of enjoyment out of. So, I respectively ask you to stop stating things that I am not. You are the only one doing it.

Thanks

ND rn:

Despite the constant negative press covfefe

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Brain what is your take on spirit right now with him looking bad in mind?

Also when did you write up these notes? Live?

[BunnyGo]

Stop bringing stuff into a game that people are playing to test their deduction skills and just want to get a bit of enjoyment out of. ... You are the only one doing it.

Thanks

#Make webdip mafia great again

...

I'm glad you've stopped bringing in outside stuff to ruin our enjoyment.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

this boy forum mafias on his phone, does bits, but is unwilling to store cartoon avatars in the cloud? It feels like you're not descending into madness in the proper order, and since this is the internet, I am required to provide you with my opinion.

anyway ##vote kingofthepirates
purely as a bot test and to established my unhinged nature in case i need to get out of any mistakes i make down the line, good day

Woah…

Is it just D&W-spirit with a kotp warlock?

D&W-Spirit-bozo with kotp as Warlock

Where I’m at for the mafia team, idk about kotp tho, I’m still unsure who the 3p is

[brainbomb]

Ghug

Total Sample Size 23
Winrate As Mafia
ghug
9 wins
14 losses
0.6428571429 winrate


Ghug is 9-14 overall as scum with a 64% winrate. That is the second best mafia winrate on the forum behind Maniac (66%)

Ghug also has a 60% town winrate going 9-15.

Out of 10 town games
Posting stats ghug as town
Avg 565 posts per game
11310 words per game
20 words per post


Out of 5 scum games
Posting stats ghug as maf
Avg 413 posts per game
8109 words per game
19.6 words per post

——(sample size all time avg)
Per day 1 posting stats
Town posts per day 1 : 64
Town words per day 1: 725
Town w/ post day 1: 11.33

Per day 1 posting stats (mafia)
Mafia posts per day 1: 43
Mafia words per day 1: 422
Mafia w/ post day 1: 9.81

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Current game day 1 stats
Day 1 posts: 57
Day 1 words: 1018
Day 1 w/post: 17.86


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Above avg numbers for ghug which leans town. He is capable of faking things but this is subconscious.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I thought sweet had a 100% mafia winrate or smthn

[ND]

Stop bringing stuff into a game that people are playing to test their deduction skills and just want to get a bit of enjoyment out of. ... You are the only one doing it.

Thanks

#Make webdip mafia great again

...

I'm glad you've stopped bringing in outside stuff to ruin our enjoyment.

you're welcome

[brainbomb]

My best notes from N1 still to come I did an ISO on dip and on vecna which ill share later!

[brainbomb]

I thought sweet had a 100% mafia winrate or smthn

Sample size was factored in on this. But yes if you include all players all time and ignore for sample : sweet is great. Also mini games damo has never lost as maf

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

There was a moment in D2 where I thought Dip might have been the 3p because of his PR soft and everyone basically ignoring it and voting him anyway

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Why I posted that now idk but it felt relevant