MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[BunnyGo]

unpopular opinion:
I townread food
Maybe it's just that food is posting right now
Maybe it's the pfp
Maybe it's the actually thought-out reads
but I think food is town

I'm starting to agree?

##vote diplomacy

[BunnyGo]

On the other hand… this post is really perceptive about a very small detail… and mimi had a detailed “ranking of wagons” earlier… and while that could be enthusiastic new town… it actually resembles how I remember playing scum myself… getting really, really detail focused because you’re not actually solving… hmm…

Scum mimi?

This post deserves note

Read my EOD analysis and my analysis correction after a dialogue with Mimi.

just reread it now. I didn't see food mentioned even once...

[BunnyGo]

It is an amazing coincidence that these posts were 14 seconds apart considering it was over an hour after DiplomacyandWarfare's post. It seems like a good indication that miminena and worcej are on the same team. I calculate that they are about 6 times more likely to both be town than mafia (by random chance).

Take 14x6 scum points. Oof.

Bunny, what triggered you so hard about this? It seems like bozo must be your number 1 scum read?

A few things, and thank you for reminding me! scum!bozo slips through cracks...

the precision of the numbers "14 seconds" and "calculate 6 times" these are scum!bozo behaviors to seem accurate and scientific while feeling awkward for lying and not giving town his all on his mech (or one time doing so and helping town win).

##vote bozo

[BunnyGo]

##VOTE DIP

sorry worcej wagoners I want this over worcej a teensy bit

It was very unlikely DiplomacyandWarfare would be DKed with 1 minute to go. Why didn't you vote your preference between worcej and Red Neurax?

oh look bozo is here
next lurker who I scumread:
##vote worcej

what are you doing?

[BunnyGo]

Alright let's solve.

Will/bozo/food

Spirit is the 3P.

gg go next

This solve doesnt make any sense. Potentially bussing a teammate in these reads.

Why does it not make sense?

[BunnyGo]

It is interesting that out of everyone who moved their vote to worcej in the last 4 minutes of D1, only DiplomacyandWarfare had been voting for Red Neurax. It is not clear why all of the DiplomacyandWarfare and ND voters preferred worcej over Red Neurax.

hence my claim that most of the worcej early voters were town....

There was no need nor motivation for scum to be scrambling there. If any of the original 3 wagons were scum, they'd already done their scrambles and saved their teammate.

[BunnyGo]

Bozo seems to be in his town game where he hounds people with questions.

Funny...I've barely seen him at all, and when he's here he's posting weird stuff about "2 seconds apart" with no questions at all.

[BunnyGo]

@worcej I think I know why town winrate is so low

Heres my reasoning on why Neurax was not the move

This game is going to have some mechanics to help/hurt other players and reveal their roles. That is why I didn;t really feel like killing Neurax. Neurax lurking and playing as such was not in any way alignment indicative

Explain

It's so vapid and cloying as to make my teeth ache from the sweetness and self-promotion.

Look at how smart you are, and how town helpful. Oh, yum yum yum....We should all have not voted Red.

So I threw up...

[BunnyGo]

probably not very likely but I want to make sure we have all possibilities

If you are asking if the witch can redirect the mafia NK, I assume not since the mafia NK is factional. If you mean that the witch could have redirected the Judicator while the mafia NK was prevented, I agree that is unlikely.

I read back through the roles, and it looks like a specific member of the mafia has to be the one doing the kill, so the witch can redirect it if they manage to choose whoever does the kill.

bozo missed a mech...

[BunnyGo]

seems like it's time for a readlist
---TOWN---
dip
ghug
brain
---will vote to save people ABOVE this line---
miminena
Vecna
bozo
---null line---
kotp
bunny
will
worcej
---I would be happy to see anyone BELOW this line be the kill today---
spirit
Demon
ND
---SCUM---

well, if nothing else, this readlist reminded me that spirit is in the game, and spirit has been lurking and contributing almost nothing, therefore

##VOTE SPIRITOFTHERADIO

HOW am i suddenly close to a townread?

You have been throwing passive aggresive shade my way all day and all night, implying all sorts of shit

##vote D&W

no town points for vecna here, too easy to fake.

[BunnyGo]

killpool for the day atm is; D&W, Foodcoats, Bunnygo

Reasons for bunnygo is that weakass catchup poststreak. He does not seem involved in the game at all. Does not feel like he has any stake/opinion in anything and he's just coasting along.

Im not fully convinced ND is town whatsoever, but plenty of people are null atm, and it feels those 3 are actually quite good kills compared to it.

Not really sure how it falls in between 3p/scum probability, but im fine just going ahead with killing scummy people.

COASTING! ***** you!

I do have opinions...like...like...I dunno, blueberry bagels are an immoral travesty and the person who first made them should rot in hell.

[BunnyGo]

I dont really wanna pile on foodcoats and create a runaway wagon yet, but that is some terrible terrible posting.

almost too bad to come from scum

##vote foodcoats

This feels pretty right and less predicatable

According to bozo these two posts are 1077 seconds apart.

There was a D&W vote in between...but I think this is coming from a towny place.

[BunnyGo]

BOZO

did you like my case on your meta last game?

Did you significantly alter your playstyle since?

what was the case? I didn't read it

[BunnyGo]

i'll put some reads down for now, this is mostly thought dumping and not very well thought out so please scrutinize

confirmed town: Mimi (at least from my perspective)
pretty towny: kotp (although I should check myself on this one, since I vibe very well with them. I have a bad habit of heavily trusting mafia in in-person games.)
leaning town: Will, Spirit, DW, Bunny, ND, bozo, ghug; from towniest to nullest
null cutoff: Demon (they've lurked this whole game while seemingly pretending to be active. I don't like it, but I can't really develop a read)
leaning mafia: Vecna (this is a very slight lean, and honestly with their recent posting this might move up to a town lean. the only reason that they're a mafia lean in the first place is that they started the flash wagon on worcej, which doesn't mean that much in retrospect), foodcoats (they turned the wagon on Red into an actual wagon, and it feels weird how they went from relatively low and sporadic posting on day 1 to being the highest poster atm. maybe there's a good reason for this, please let me know if that's the case), worcej (very slight, only putting them here because of the damo kill, since they were damo's main suspicion during day 1. could definitely switch to a town lean one I look back through the end of day 1 fiasco.)
pretty scummy: nobody atm
person who I currently have a slight scum read on but everyone else seems to town read so idk: bb (their voting patterns seem very opportunist all throughout, and they claimed vt rather than town initially, which was something damo was pretty set about, so the nk on damo points to bb imo)

I'd be fine voting anyone Demon and under except for worcej rn; my preferred vote is bb, but that seems unrealistic, and second is foodcoats, but that's already a wagon and I don't want it to run away barely over 24h into they, so i'll withhold my vote for now.

I put no notes on town leans because that category is pretty much just people who are relatively null but not exactly scummy, which I don't have much reasoning for. admittedly it's a bit large, and consists of some people I haven't thought about enough. I'll work on sifting through it throughout the day

I'm not reading this...don't copy ND in anything, especially writing style.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.5

foodcoats (3) - DemonRHK, SpiritoftheRadio, Vecna
ND (1) - ghug
Vecna (1) - foodcoats
SpiritoftheRadio (1) - DiplomacyandWarfare
DiplomacyandWarfare (1) - brainbomb
DemonRHK (1) - ND
bozotheclown (1) - BunnyGo

FOODCOATS shalt be expunged, should this state of affairs persist.

Around 7 and a half hours are left until nightfall.

Some people still need to vote.
Worcej needs to participate or he will be punted.

[DemonRHK]

##Vote DiplomacyandWarfare

Dip is just hitting me in all of the wrong ways. While I still ain't a fan of food, I do admit my vote was memy and super weak. I know this is beating a dead horse from D1, but it's what I feel is right.

[BunnyGo]

vibes
<snip>

I’m really looking forward to how his reads develop from here

Thanks for the reminder old!Bunny!

Looked up his ISO just now...no movement at all...just some joke posts and defense of his static ideas.

Scummy!

[BunnyGo]

LURKER LIST
yesterday, red, demon, bozo and bunny lurked
today, worcej, demon, bozo, ND and kotp are lurking
demon and bozo have lurked both days so far
and yes, lurking IS scummy

40 posts is your "lurking" cutoff?

weird post

[DemonRHK]

Better idea

##Vote Will

[foodcoats]

Mist? No. Likely? Very yes. There are no absolutes in mafia.

While the third vote meme is there, yes, there is the unfortunate miss of EoD. While not in itself scum indicative or even intentional, I am just personally getting the 'caught on a runaway meme wagon' vibes' because Red was on the block for a looooong time.

For me Red was not a meme. I believe killing lurkers D1 is optimal town strategy. I opined on this in a previous game but don’t see the point to revisit it too heavily now. Even though Red was a PR, the reality is that his playstyle, unless it massively changed in later days, makes him a liability. There are other players like this, too, such as yourself and MadMonarch. Playing lurky makes the game harder for town and is a major risk. If you know risk management, it would be “low likelihood” but “critical impact” and this is why town needs to vote out lurkers.