MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[ghug]

Well I was sure Red was scum after that last-second tie vote, so that's disappointing.

Considering he was a town PR, trying to tie the vote to save himself was a reasonable move. If D1 was not extended by 10 seconds, the vote would have been tied.

If you thought Red Neurax was likely scum at the point, why didn't you change your vote to try to break the tie?

I assumed the day was over and the tie was already final.

[ghug]

Bozo seems to be in his town game where he hounds people with questions.

Those were some pretty soft questions. I think he's capable of faking it for a bit.

[ghug]

Pirates
Will
Mimi
ND
Bozo

Welcome to the crew bozo

Anyone else wanna join the fun boat?
Vecna? Ghug?

Are you inviting me to your scumteam?

[ghug]

Next wagon I don't quite understand: Spirit
Post group 1: "I am joke posting but Demon made the roleblock post before I could so"
wait
wtf

will and dip facing off early, knowing the best money is on one of you two getting day oned. prolly both nervous town, but I'd be betting on you if I were the guy

So this is kind of long-winded
but
The 3p is either a witch or a warlock. I think spirit might be the witch referring to the warlock ("the guy" seems like a way of referring to the masculine-associated 3p, especially from the perspective of someone who is the witch). Also seems to be subtly profiling players for potentially prs (the comment about "nervous town" seems like it would be how a vt read would be presented), which also fits with the witch, whose main goal is to find prs!
TLDR: I think spirit is the Witch 3p

post group 2: "everyone thinks I'm a warlock" (???) "and here's some low-quality posts"
post group 3: "shit post, shitpost, shit post. Also brain is correct about saying that this is how I normally post"
Post group 4: "here's a read list" (!!!) "and I'm going to be annoying about the lie detector statement thing"
Post group 5: "here's a theory about voting, and I scumread food" (votes food)
Post group 6: "I always forgot that I'm mafia" (???) "but I'm town. the ND wagon is shitty and here are some posts of similar quality"
Post group 7: "Hi I'm back and I'm voting red because I don't scumread dip or ND, but I am also not joining the worcej wagon"

votes:
ghug: "using '/s' is scummy"
miminena: "I want a town claim from spirit"
food: "I am mad that spirit is scumreading non-posters"
brain: [no reason given]

conclusion: The spirit wagon was shitty and spirit is probably town, although the 3p theory does hold merit, between the stubbornness about claiming town and the potential witch slip
light townread on that

Hoping to see this level of tinfoil in Dip's other posts. It's a good look, but significantly diminished by being the role everyone in the game is trying to solve.

Did not really follow it up. Food did, though, so I'll take what I can get.

[brainbomb]

Pirates
Will
Mimi
ND
Bozo

Welcome to the crew bozo

Anyone else wanna join the fun boat?
Vecna? Ghug?

Are you inviting me to your scumteam?

That doesnt tend to work out very well for us historically

[ghug]

Pirates
Will
Mimi
ND
Bozo

Welcome to the crew bozo

Anyone else wanna join the fun boat?
Vecna? Ghug?

Are you inviting me to your scumteam?

That doesnt tend to work out very well for us historically

Indeed, I must decline.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

*sets the fun boat on fire*
should've invited me to the scumteam

[brainbomb]

Damn, can you hijack their nightkill for us at least.

[Vecna]

I find "kill the scummy player" results in making very uninformed votes on D1 and just leads to a random kill within 5 minutes of phase change.

just get better at it and realize that people trying hard to act towny and being fake as fuck is what you should focus on instead.

I dont get why youre making this case though.

You never get involved day1.

This great concern for the common good feels like we should sniff you a bit more

I’m more and more interested in Vecna’s “worcej arc.” It’s like Vecna was coaching worcej - or buddying?

I was the first to be suspicious of worcej and the first to get the wagon started, and the first to question the common narrative of worcej being active always equating to him being town.

I cannot even begin to understand how any of this can even be conveived of as coaching. what a load of horsecum

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

just get better at it and realize that people trying hard to act towny and being fake as fuck is what you should focus on instead.

I dont get why youre making this case though.

You never get involved day1.

This great concern for the common good feels like we should sniff you a bit more

I’m more and more interested in Vecna’s “worcej arc.” It’s like Vecna was coaching worcej - or buddying?

I was the first to be suspicious of worcej and the first to get the wagon started, and the first to question the common narrative of worcej being active always equating to him being town.

I cannot even begin to understand how any of this can even be conveived of as coaching. what a load of horsecum

breaking news: Vecna admits to bussing worcej

[kingofthepirates]

so mainly this is done with the intention of looking at all reasons people gave for their various D1 votes, any similarities or interesting patterns. everything after 5 minutes before phase end is scramble time, and i think unlikely to yield any interesting reasons. So while doing it, I realized... there's like 14 people left... so I'm just gonna lookat a few interesting ones (like pivotal votes, 3rd voter, votes from people currently sus'd by others).

dip (idk first in order): switched votes most often (7 times), feels very arbitrary. mostly stuck on red based on lurking (also in general lowkey I hella sus the people on the red wagon who sited lurking as the only reason... that somewhat screams low effort scum reasoning, especially since I think there's much more to it...). Seemed intersted in a bb wagon. is that interest still there?

will: final vote on dip feels random, like there's 2 minutes left, the dip wagon is not gonna take off. Feels like trying to take an opportunity to slip off the dip wagon but also avoid the red wagon.

food: honestly? all the votes here don't seem to bad. red lurk vote is as above ig. but also has past history of doing that so... nia

mimi: "I'll move off when..." votes, I kinda get this mindset. NIA, though I can see how it might look bad in others eyes

gonna go hunt for more, I remember this morning on my phone I checked and someone's votes really ticked me off and buzzed me the wrong way... I'll see if I can find it again.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

dip (idk first in order): switched votes most often (7 times), feels very arbitrary. mostly stuck on red based on lurking (also in general lowkey I hella sus the people on the red wagon who sited lurking as the only reason... that somewhat screams low effort scum reasoning, especially since I think there's much more to it...). Seemed intersted in a bb wagon. is that interest still there?

Brainbomb is one of very few players making a decent number of meaningful posts today (yourself not included)
so no, not today

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

The mist rolling back over the heath revealed a beautiful view of East Anglia.

As the village woke, a shrill scream pierced the dawn. A body was found in the village square.

Damo666 has died. He was Friar Damian, the Vanilla Townsperson.

DAY TWO HAS STARTED. YOU CAN POST.

Catching up from here

This is surprising

I’d have to say its probably a PR snipe

Damo was towned by a few people and was noticeably UTR compared to his normal games, which is telling for a PR

However theres another theory that its because the people we are top towning are mafia

Going with the former however I will keep it in mind if the pattern continues

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

my sus on ghug, demon, and bunny increased a little bit, they were in his scum reads and along with BB I believe I remember bunny and ghug both trying to keep damo alive as town since he usually has a stronger mid-to-late game. Rereading damo he was pushing lie detector statements pretty hard so maybe mafia thought he was that PR

I didn’t notice pushing the PR claims but yeah this also works toward the kill being a PR snipe

[kingofthepirates]

dip (idk first in order): switched votes most often (7 times), feels very arbitrary. mostly stuck on red based on lurking (also in general lowkey I hella sus the people on the red wagon who sited lurking as the only reason... that somewhat screams low effort scum reasoning, especially since I think there's much more to it...). Seemed intersted in a bb wagon. is that interest still there?

Brainbomb is one of very few players making a decent number of meaningful posts today (yourself not included)
so no, not today

fair enough, I'm locking in tmr but today is not my day ;-;

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Players I consider town side of null

bozo
Dip
food
Will
kotp
mimi
spirit
Vecna

Of the rest the following have done nothing to put them scum side of null

Bunny
Demon
ghug

Remainder

brain
ND
Red
worcej

for reference, damo's most recent reads list, although it's worth noting that this was from a while back and probably doesn't mean much. still worth a look imo

probably worth something, and there's probably at least 1 scum top 3 of his town list

Can you elaborate why?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

This play feels so alien to me I wasnt gone *that* long right

[kingofthepirates]

for reference, damo's most recent reads list, although it's worth noting that this was from a while back and probably doesn't mean much. still worth a look imo

probably worth something, and there's probably at least 1 scum top 3 of his town list

Can you elaborate why?

combo of 1) some sort of motivation for the kill (scum can hide in town reads) and 2) i think it's pretty often historically been the case (this might be a bit fallacious though)?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

ND completely changed into deep analytical and I love the change. I remember this version of ND from the old days and its very nice.

I really think this means ND town

Call it confirmation bias but I feel like ND would say ‘i dont have reads day 1 cuz no flip’ and use that to cop out of reads now and later on

However, now that we *do* have a flip, I think ND is actually trying to use that to help the town

I feel wolf!ND would continue his shitposts

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

probably worth something, and there's probably at least 1 scum top 3 of his town list

Can you elaborate why?

combo of 1) some sort of motivation for the kill (scum can hide in town reads) and 2) i think it's pretty often historically been the case (this might be a bit fallacious though)?

I understand point #1 in general, I’m wondering why the top 3 specifically

Also I’m not super good at memory with other games so you’d have to show me evidence for point #2 being correct

Altho I dont wanna make you have ‘homework’ lol just to prove a moot point