MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[SpiritoftheRadio]

At this point, I'd kill foodcoats or damo or bozo or ghug or bb, I can see getting decent info out of all of them besides bozo, but bozos posts seem sus and not like him

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

the ND wagon is also lazy and gives us 0 info besides ND's flip. He has not put any effort in and any analysis we do on him would be useless, kill a real player and hope ND wakes up day 2 when the game isn't as crappy info wise

I agree with this, ND is not the move today

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I think if Dip is mafia, SPirit fits well as his partner

But I’m getting ahead of myself

Dip’s posting is just generally more passive and less aggressive in the sense that he isn’t seeming to actively solve. He just picks and chooses things to comment on and slide by

The only thing I saw from him that counters this was the very first 2 pages of the game in which after he declares a scumread on me, he barely even talks about me at all. Doesn’t change his read based on future posting etc etc

i know i am not the most cultured poster, but I probably wouldn't put my mafia partner as my top town right away. I dont really understand the dipandwar argument and besides you he is the other person who gets killed day 1 a lot in this game, so his wagon is immediately sus

No see this Dip wagon is different. Dip’s posting, even when hes a large wagon never stops trying to brute force solve the game. Here his posting is drastically different, and thus the reasoning for the wagon is different as well

[ghug]

the ND wagon is also lazy and gives us 0 info besides ND's flip. He has not put any effort in and any analysis we do on him would be useless, kill a real player and hope ND wakes up day 2 when the game isn't as crappy info wise

You're not going to get anything more from ND in later days.

[brainbomb]

At this point, I'd kill foodcoats or damo or bozo or ghug or bb, I can see getting decent info out of all of them besides bozo, but bozos posts seem sus and not like him

Interesting

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ghug whats your opinion on the people pushing you?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ah one thing I remember about webdip mafia is that getting opinions out of people is like trying to herd cats

[brainbomb]

@brain did you ever explain your theory about the game being solved now that Bozo is here?

Just so you know that was sarcasm? Sorry if it wasnt explained. But yea I have no idea who the whole team is just some ideas of what they may look like

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Oh ok mb

I think youre town

You dont seem like your typical solvy self, but in a towny way since you said you “dont want to be annoying with it”

I dont see what was annoying in the first place but i do think you are town because it feels different

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

That was worded super weirdly lol

[brainbomb]

I think what made me frustrating was my theories and how intense they got; plus total unwillingness to listen to anything anyone would say in response.

[brainbomb]

Worcej was upset that I put him into a corner with aggressive loaded questions that painted him in a bad light and there was no positive response he could give to help me get out of it.

Ghug reinforced that by saying im very frustrating to deal with and that if I changed he would acknowledge the effort I put in to do so.

Bunny I obviously had alot of arguments with and there was alot of paranoia and words exchanged .

Im sure there were others. Hell probably everyone. I can step back and read more and actually try to understand peope

[foodcoats]

why is ND self voting
##VOTE red neurax
for lurking

This is a bad reason to vote, but it may not be a bad candidate.

Note to self: Red - Ghug

#make web dip mafia great again

Disagree… I spent a bunch of energy a few games ago explaining the strategic value of D1 lurker kills… won’t repeat now but will

##VOTE Red Neurax

[miminena]

so, since the votes are starting to consolidate, i'm curious, would anybody on a wagon other than the top 3 be willing to give their preference between voting ND, DW, and Red, if they absolutely had to choose? I myself would prefer Red from the three, although realistically i'm sticking on Will until EoD

[foodcoats]

what about ghug's posts after your vote made you reevaluate?

Not Ghug’s posts

The posts of others; the way that ghug seemed to be a find candidate with just about anyone

In my experience its a red flag that the person is town, especially a good scumbo like ghug

DW voted ghug early, then moved off later, worcej was clear about their reasoning (#169 and the ensuing conversation), foodcoats moved off pretty early, and bozo said that it was arbitrary in their voting post (although I don't know why they haven't moved off yet, maybe they just haven't found a better target?). This is everybody who voted ghug other than you.

The only person who voted ghug for a seemingly spurious reason was you. I don't think this necessarily means that you're mafia, I just feel like drilling you :3

If you have specific posts for why you moved off ghug that would help clear this up

Miminena seems likely town.

[ghug]

Ghug whats your opinion on the people pushing you?

I've discussed worcej at length. Your turnaround was oddly quick but I could see it coming from town. bozo is being entirely unserious, which is not a good look. Dip was annoying me, but no strong alignment opinions. food seemed a little opportunistic maybe?

[foodcoats]

Dip and war posts are indeed worse than usual. Ive seen his scum game many times and I remember it being focused on piggy backing off of proposed town strategies. In the example I remember balki had a plan and then ghug had a plan, and then dip amended the plan tediously to try to seem engaged in the plan which involved some circuitous mass claim idea. Not seeing as much involvement in trying to fit in with the strategic crew but the posts he has made are so non serious and so tonally awful.

##vote diplomacy&warfare

I’m not convinced you’re convinced by your own vote, brain.

Scum brain?

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 1.7

ND(4) - ghug*, Red Neurax, ND, Vecna
DiplomacyandWarfare(3) - BunnyGo, JustAGuyNamedWill, brainbomb
Red Neurax(3) - DiplomacyandWarfare, kingofthepirates, foodcoats
JustAGuyNamedWill(2) - miminena, bozotheclown
ghug(1) - worcej
worcej(1) - damo666
foodcoats(1) - SpiritoftheRadio
Vecna(1) - DemonRHK

It is still ND.

Just under an hour and a half, that's the time left.

[brainbomb]

Dip and war posts are indeed worse than usual. Ive seen his scum game many times and I remember it being focused on piggy backing off of proposed town strategies. In the example I remember balki had a plan and then ghug had a plan, and then dip amended the plan tediously to try to seem engaged in the plan which involved some circuitous mass claim idea. Not seeing as much involvement in trying to fit in with the strategic crew but the posts he has made are so non serious and so tonally awful.

##vote diplomacy&warfare

I’m not convinced you’re convinced by your own vote, brain.

Scum brain?

Ok. I am convinced this is a good place to push?

[foodcoats]

##vote bozo

for making the 666th post, clearly this is a satanic indicator and they are either a witch or the mafia.

isn't it a bit late in the day to be making joke votes? especially since in #608 you seemed pretty convinced about red, and now you're moving off them without warning, to a mostly nonviable wagon. is this just your way of unvoting while still meeting participation requirements?

On the other hand… this post is really perceptive about a very small detail… and mimi had a detailed “ranking of wagons” earlier… and while that could be enthusiastic new town… it actually resembles how I remember playing scum myself… getting really, really detail focused because you’re not actually solving… hmm…

Scum mimi?