MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[BunnyGo]

I also cannot shake the feeling that ND is actually being nicer than he would normally be, and less abbrasive and obnoxious than i would expect him to be given current events.

It almost feels weird to say this, but in the ND frame of things he feels like he's trying to stay well under the radar.

Agreed

[BunnyGo]

is the bot offline?

Sort of. The landing page to use search function and change game is down.

Our orange GM gave the link to skip it for this game on page 1.

[BunnyGo]

is the bot offline?

Sort of. The landing page to use search function and change game is down.

Our orange GM gave the link to skip it for this game on page 1.

##CALL GM (or dargo or Chaqa)

Do any of you have the link to go straight to the search page of the bot?

[damo666]

hmm... Will has been a bit weird about ghug throughout the day imo; they went from a slight read, to emphatically voting them, to feeling iffy about the wagon with little in-between. Not sure if this means anything, but it feels like an opportunity vote on a pretty arbitrary wagon.

This isn't very strong reasoning, but I am trigger happy, and would prefer to build up pressure on people other than ghug, so:

##vote JustAGuyNamedWill

Just like my vote on spirit, i'm ready to move off once a defense arrives



I don't exactly get why we should do this after having already claimed, but I can't see it being bad for town. I am not third party.



why not paired with worcej?

Or me?

It is an amazing coincidence that these posts were 14 seconds apart considering it was over an hour after DiplomacyandWarfare's post. It seems like a good indication that miminena and worcej are on the same team. I calculate that they are about 6 times more likely to both be town than mafia (by random chance).

3/16 * 2/16 = 0.0234
12/16 * 11/16 = 0.5156

your calculation seems a bit off. theyre closer to 22 times more likely to both be town than to both be mafia. Or 18 times if youre accounting from a pov that is town.

This is wrong

[miminena]

HI MIMI!!

I'm Bunny!

hihi~

Can I call you Mimi?!

oh, yes, I honestly prefer it over miminena, it feels too formal to be called by my full username :p

Tell me about yourself, please.

what is there to say? i'm just a girl who likes playing 20Q and Diplomacy sometimes :3

Have you played this game before? I have! Badly! But enthusiastically!

sort of? I've played mafia with friends in person many times, and I've spectated games of mafia on other forums that I frequent, but this is my first time playing mafia on a forum.

anyways, now that formalities are done, could you elaborate on your vote on D&W? They fall almost perfectly null for me, so i'm curious on your reasoning.

It's miminena like menomena (do doo do do do)?

not originally but now it is :3

I am a supporter of worcej's plan to arbitrarily eliminate ghug.

##VOTE ghug

bozo is paired with will for pinning this wagon on ghug
or possibly paired with me

You started the wagon, why are we "pinning" it on him?

Maybe they mean pinning as in cementing it as a wagon? idk

is the bot offline?

Sort of. The landing page to use search function and change game is down.

Our orange GM gave the link to skip it for this game on page 1.

Is it? It's worked for me this entire game. https://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/front_page is the link I'm using

[BunnyGo]

It is an amazing coincidence that these posts were 14 seconds apart considering it was over an hour after DiplomacyandWarfare's post. It seems like a good indication that miminena and worcej are on the same team. I calculate that they are about 6 times more likely to both be town than mafia (by random chance).

3/16 * 2/16 = 0.0234
12/16 * 11/16 = 0.5156

your calculation seems a bit off. theyre closer to 22 times more likely to both be town than to both be mafia. Or 18 times if youre accounting from a pov that is town.

This is wrong

But not meaningfully. And by the same factor. So the ratios are the same. And I don’t see a scum/town/3P mindset for the error.

[damo666]

I'm not sure we should do the third party thing, as it gives the other two factions a pathway and incentive for cooperation.

why do we even care abt the third party thing?? isn't just saying "I am town" objectively better from town pov (assuming we have a town lie detector who isn't tampered with, it'll give us more information, with either a town clear or a confirmed non-town (town enemy) person)?

It's a request for an additional statement. Ask yourself who wouldn't want to say it.

[BunnyGo]

hihi~


oh, yes, I honestly prefer it over miminena, it feels too formal to be called by my full username :p


what is there to say? i'm just a girl who likes playing 20Q and Diplomacy sometimes :3


sort of? I've played mafia with friends in person many times, and I've spectated games of mafia on other forums that I frequent, but this is my first time playing mafia on a forum.

anyways, now that formalities are done, could you elaborate on your vote on D&W? They fall almost perfectly null for me, so i'm curious on your reasoning.

It's miminena like menomena (do doo do do do)?

not originally but now it is :3

bozo is paired with will for pinning this wagon on ghug
or possibly paired with me

You started the wagon, why are we "pinning" it on him?

Maybe they mean pinning as in cementing it as a wagon? idk

is the bot offline?

Sort of. The landing page to use search function and change game is down.

Our orange GM gave the link to skip it for this game on page 1.

Is it? It's worked for me this entire game. https://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/front_page is the link I'm using

THANK YOU!!

[damo666]

3/16 * 2/16 = 0.0234
12/16 * 11/16 = 0.5156

your calculation seems a bit off. theyre closer to 22 times more likely to both be town than to both be mafia. Or 18 times if youre accounting from a pov that is town.

This is wrong

But not meaningfully. And by the same factor. So the ratios are the same. And I don’t see a scum/town/3P mindset for the error.

My post was based on seeing repeated denominators. I didn't examine it any further. Can't resist doing it now. Thanks Bunny.

[damo666]

But yeah

[damo666]

From an outside pov it is 71.5


Town 14C4
Scum 14C1

[damo666]

From a tpov it is 22

[damo666]

From a tpov it is 22

Or 3p pov

[dargorygel]

##GM VOTE COUNT


ghug (4): DiplomacyandWarfare, worcej,JustAGuyNamedWill, bozotheclown
ND (3): ghug, Red Neurax, ND
JustaGuyNamedWill (2): Vecna,miminena
worcej (2): damo666,foodcoats
SpiritoftheRadio (1): brainbomb
Red Neurax (1): kingofthepirates
foodcoats (1): SpiritoftheRadio
DiplomacyandWarfare (1): BunnyGo
Unvote (1): DemonRHK

DemonRHK lacks a valid vote.
One End Vote: ghug voting end for ND
ghug is presently in the lead of the most-suspected-tally.

Around eleven hours left in this day.

[damo666]

I dont like how people piledon ghug

hmm... Will has been a bit weird about ghug throughout the day imo; they went from a slight read, to emphatically voting them, to feeling iffy about the wagon with little in-between. Not sure if this means anything, but it feels like an opportunity vote on a pretty arbitrary wagon.

This isn't very strong reasoning, but I am trigger happy, and would prefer to build up pressure on people other than ghug, so:

##vote JustAGuyNamedWill

Just like my vote on spirit, i'm ready to move off once a defense arrives

I am not third party.

How about we all say this?

I don't exactly get why we should do this after having already claimed, but I can't see it being bad for town. I am not third party.

bozo is paired with will for pinning this wagon on ghug
or possibly paired with me

why not paired with worcej?

bozo is paired with will for pinning this wagon on ghug
or possibly paired with me

Or me?

It is an amazing coincidence that these posts were 14 seconds apart considering it was over an hour after DiplomacyandWarfare's post. It seems like a good indication that miminena and worcej are on the same team. I calculate that they are about 6 times more likely to both be town than mafia (by random chance).

Show your working

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

why is ND self voting
##VOTE red neurax
for lurking

[kingofthepirates]

I'm not sure we should do the third party thing, as it gives the other two factions a pathway and incentive for cooperation.

why do we even care abt the third party thing?? isn't just saying "I am town" objectively better from town pov (assuming we have a town lie detector who isn't tampered with, it'll give us more information, with either a town clear or a confirmed non-town (town enemy) person)?

It's a request for an additional statement. Ask yourself who wouldn't want to say it.

I am not third party

Still think just saying town is stronger, but sure.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

You're probably wondering who I am
Good luck, to you, with such an endeavor
My tracks were covered in a manner adequate
And I am not yet ready to reveal myself

[BunnyGo]

why is ND self voting
##VOTE red neurax
for lurking

##end

[BunnyGo]

You're probably wondering who I am
Good luck, to you, with such an endeavor
My tracks were covered in a manner adequate
And I am not yet ready to reveal myself

…

##unend