MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[worcej]

Where is it false?

Receipts:

I am Vanilla Town - do you believe me?

To avoid someone being all ~weird~ about my statement being difficult for a lie detector.

I am Vanilla Town.

I wonder if you believe me?

The key word is 'useful'. Your repeated statement is weak and not useful (to town).

How in the hell is "I am Vanilla Town" NOT useful for verification?

[worcej]

Look Worcej I think theres a disconnect

I do not play against my win condition

I am not accusing you of this, just notably telling you my expectation as another player is that you do this and have fun while doing it.

But I disagree that the thing that needs to change is killing people who disagree with consensus

I’m a little confused as to what you are saying

You think it is impossible to have fun primarily, while also trying to win?

You're clearly missing my point - I don't find disagreeing with consensus to be an issue, what I find to be the problem is that they will actively fight consensus in later stages of the game (again, my opinion here).

I do not think it's impossible to have fun primarily while trying to win, but again fun is very subjective.

Like right now, I'm having a fucking ball. Here's why:

1. It's entertaining as hell to argue killing ghug, damo, and Vecna on D1 over our normal shitshow of last second votes.
2. I find it incredibly fun to watch you actively fight against my proposal while not bringing anything relevant to the table on how to be better as town.
3. I find it fun to watch Vecna completely avoid commentary on my posts/opinion.
4. It's fun to watch BB try to be different but fall into similar tendencies (note: they aren't bad tendencies).
5. I am intrigued by what Bunny is planning right now, because we all know he has some sort of gimmick going on.

This is fun as hell for me. How about you Will? You having as much fun as me?

Oooh!

What’s the gimmick?!?

Can you tell me? I’ll do it! I’ll even commit hard!

Because otherwise I got nothing…

I'll wager your gimmick is not doing a gimmick, thus the gimmick is going to get you scummed because you're being different.

[worcej]

this narrative of me being low activity is just weird. I just play a lot less games, but the games I play im usually in the top 5 posters

I feel like you're more prone to disappear for really long periods of time than you used to be.

I still respect your ability to read people, to be clear, I just think you've lost a bit of your sheen in the public eye.

we will see when the nightkills roll in I guess

Also, I dont think you've ever actually respected my ability to read people

ghug's respect comes in the form of not commenting on it.

[damo666]

How do we know that from brain?

WE don't.

I know that both are either scum or misguided town.

Are we mutually exclusive?

you and brain? You could ss tt st ts. I dunno.

[damo666]

Receipts:

The key word is 'useful'. Your repeated statement is weak and not useful (to town).

How in the hell is "I am Vanilla Town" NOT useful for verification?

I've explained elsewhere why this is more useful to scum than town.

The simple statement 'I am town' is much more preferable.

Anyway the deed is done now.

[BunnyGo]

Wait what makes civ relevant to this game? Discussing a bland game really doesn't have much relevancy to the discussion. In fact I would /assert it is just eating page space.

#make web dip mafia great again

Anyone not starting with the board game is a Johnny come lately poser

[BunnyGo]

ND and Spirit seem to be avoiding making a useful testable alignment statement.

I'll give Red a bit more time.

##vote worcej for making the anti-town version

ND, spirit, red and brain are all possibles.

And ofc Bozo is yet to speak.

Damo, why ND? I have written a paragraph on him twice now and deleted it because although he feels scummy to me, I realized he just does that and couldn't justify anything real and deleted them. My read on his testable statements thing is he is probably just bullheaded like me

I want to see that paragraph

[BunnyGo]

##GM VOTE COUNT 1.04


ghug (3): DiplomacyandWarfare, worcej,JustAGuyNamedWill
Red Neurax (2): SpiritoftheRadio, kingofthepirates
SpiritoftheRadio (2): foodcoats,brainbomb
JustaGuyNamedWill (1): Vecna
ND (1): ghug
worcej (1): damo666
Unvote (2): DemonRHK, miminena

The Following Players have not written enough posts: bozotheclown, Red Neurax

The Following Players have not yet voted: bozotheclown

ghug is presently in the lead of the most-suspected-tally.

One Day, and approximately 2.3 hours left in this day.

I too have not voted!

[BunnyGo]

I am not accusing you of this, just notably telling you my expectation as another player is that you do this and have fun while doing it.
You're clearly missing my point - I don't find disagreeing with consensus to be an issue, what I find to be the problem is that they will actively fight consensus in later stages of the game (again, my opinion here).

I do not think it's impossible to have fun primarily while trying to win, but again fun is very subjective.

Like right now, I'm having a fucking ball. Here's why:

1. It's entertaining as hell to argue killing ghug, damo, and Vecna on D1 over our normal shitshow of last second votes.
2. I find it incredibly fun to watch you actively fight against my proposal while not bringing anything relevant to the table on how to be better as town.
3. I find it fun to watch Vecna completely avoid commentary on my posts/opinion.
4. It's fun to watch BB try to be different but fall into similar tendencies (note: they aren't bad tendencies).
5. I am intrigued by what Bunny is planning right now, because we all know he has some sort of gimmick going on.

This is fun as hell for me. How about you Will? You having as much fun as me?

Oooh!

What’s the gimmick?!?

Can you tell me? I’ll do it! I’ll even commit hard!

Because otherwise I got nothing…

I'll wager your gimmick is not doing a gimmick, thus the gimmick is going to get you scummed because you're being different.

I took a self enforced sabbatical and got my head screwed on. So I’m less of a screwy wabbit.

Make of it what you will Elmer.

[Vecna]

You're low activity to me because of your timing/availability. I few you similar as myself honestly - when you're here, you post a LOT, but then peace out for many hours.

scumpoints for being nice to me

I don't think I've ever been mean to you?

you've been quite vocal about your displeasure towards me in most recent games I have played

[brainbomb]

Who has factual, proven day 1 scumtells that are worth pursuing? Names, examples and reasons why this is factual and not subjective

[BunnyGo]

Who has factual, proven day 1 scumtells that are worth pursuing? Names, examples and reasons why this is factual and not subjective

I did not hack anyone’s webmail this time…so nothing that factual and proven.

[brainbomb]

I know after my data research projects there is a direct correlation between most scum players total posts dropping when compared to how many posts they make as town, and then there is also a correlation between longer posts with more words in them while also having less posts than usual; and quite a few people have these traits.

Examples like vecna is much more likely to post less as mafia, while doing half hearted catchups; followed quickly by a smarttering of scumreads he will throw out and it looks very much like his towngame but the curiousity of it is less evident.

Or spirit who tends to have big posts as both alignments but will hedge heavily in his huge wall posts when hes mafia.

[bozotheclown]

I am town

[bozotheclown]

scumpoints for being nice to me

I don't think I've ever been mean to you?

you've been quite vocal about your displeasure towards me in most recent games I have played

What was the reason for him being displeased?

[BunnyGo]

I am town

I’m sold!

[bozotheclown]

Oooh!

What’s the gimmick?!?

Can you tell me? I’ll do it! I’ll even commit hard!

Because otherwise I got nothing…

I'll wager your gimmick is not doing a gimmick, thus the gimmick is going to get you scummed because you're being different.

I took a self enforced sabbatical and got my head screwed on. So I’m less of a screwy wabbit.

Make of it what you will Elmer.

I did that after that game where I spent the last day wasting my time arguing with you and ghug, then when I came back I had to play a game as mafia.

[dargorygel]

##GM VOTE COUNT 1.04


ghug (3): DiplomacyandWarfare, worcej,JustAGuyNamedWill
Red Neurax (2): SpiritoftheRadio, kingofthepirates
SpiritoftheRadio (2): foodcoats,brainbomb
JustaGuyNamedWill (1): Vecna
ND (1): ghug
worcej (1): damo666
Unvote (2): DemonRHK, miminena

The Following Players have not written enough posts: bozotheclown, Red Neurax

The Following Players have not yet voted: bozotheclown

ghug is presently in the lead of the most-suspected-tally.

One Day, and approximately 2.3 hours left in this day.

I too have not voted!

Aye... I did not post a complete list of y'all.

[damo666]

I am town

Thank you bozo

[bozotheclown]

I am a supporter of worcej's plan to arbitrarily eliminate ghug.

##VOTE ghug