MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Original post:
ngl, looking at past games idt ND was anywhere near as cynical as this game.
perhaps gimmick, perhaps mixing up play style, but regardless, not a fan, vibes are all off (slight scum tilt? I still like the game relevant posts, but gut is calling smth is a bit off) :<

Response to new post I saw before posting:

I will buy the entire mafia team copies of civ 7 founders edition to kill ND for us N1

Nd if you’re mafia you have the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever

Also ND is towny off vibes

it'd be hilarious.

anything other than vibes to call ND town?

No

But to elaborate, he has had some classic ‘nd’isms such as ‘theres no new players’ and stuff like that which I dont really see wolf!ND making

[worcej]

I just fundamentally disagree with killing someone based on them following their playstyle *as town*

I feel like if we known GHug/Vecna/Damo as town go against consensus, then it would backwardly be better to keep them alive, as we know their playstyle well as town

Im having fun, I enjoy mafia

The problem is their playstyle is NAI and they do the same as mafia - thus I disagree with your reasoning for being different.

Ah i see

I do think Ghug is mafia here, can we agree to disagree on the reason and just head that way?

I'm already there brosef! Come on down!!

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Brain, regardless of bozo, whats your world looking like?

[Vecna]

You know, starting a game a day prior to the early access to Civ VII may have been a mistake.

paying extra money for civ 7 EA was a mistake to begin with

How bad is it? I didnt do the ea

I think i heard you had to pay extra to get acces to the game? on top of the 70 buckaroos?

maybe im out of the loop. I hate all this new monetization scamming within the game industry these days regardless.

ill probably end up buying it anyway out of boredom, and end up regretting it.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I’ll have to finance my copy of Civ 7 over 20 monthly payments

[Vecna]

”fun” is a shit metric to try to prioritize because what is fun for you may not be fun for others. For the sake of this, please define what “fun” is for you.

In all seriousness though- When you signed up for this game, you’re signing a “contract” to play to your win condition. So I explicitly expect you to do that and not prioritize “fun”.

Look Worcej I think theres a disconnect

I do not play against my win condition

I am not accusing you of this, just notably telling you my expectation as another player is that you do this and have fun while doing it.

But I disagree that the thing that needs to change is killing people who disagree with consensus

I’m a little confused as to what you are saying

You think it is impossible to have fun primarily, while also trying to win?

You're clearly missing my point - I don't find disagreeing with consensus to be an issue, what I find to be the problem is that they will actively fight consensus in later stages of the game (again, my opinion here).

I do not think it's impossible to have fun primarily while trying to win, but again fun is very subjective.

Like right now, I'm having a fucking ball. Here's why:

1. It's entertaining as hell to argue killing ghug, damo, and Vecna on D1 over our normal shitshow of last second votes.
2. I find it incredibly fun to watch you actively fight against my proposal while not bringing anything relevant to the table on how to be better as town.
3. I find it fun to watch Vecna completely avoid commentary on my posts/opinion.
4. It's fun to watch BB try to be different but fall into similar tendencies (note: they aren't bad tendencies).
5. I am intrigued by what Bunny is planning right now, because we all know he has some sort of gimmick going on.

This is fun as hell for me. How about you Will? You having as much fun as me?

Bro, what did you do to Worcej?

[worcej]

Look Worcej I think theres a disconnect

I do not play against my win condition

I am not accusing you of this, just notably telling you my expectation as another player is that you do this and have fun while doing it.

But I disagree that the thing that needs to change is killing people who disagree with consensus

I’m a little confused as to what you are saying

You think it is impossible to have fun primarily, while also trying to win?

You're clearly missing my point - I don't find disagreeing with consensus to be an issue, what I find to be the problem is that they will actively fight consensus in later stages of the game (again, my opinion here).

I do not think it's impossible to have fun primarily while trying to win, but again fun is very subjective.

Like right now, I'm having a fucking ball. Here's why:

1. It's entertaining as hell to argue killing ghug, damo, and Vecna on D1 over our normal shitshow of last second votes.
2. I find it incredibly fun to watch you actively fight against my proposal while not bringing anything relevant to the table on how to be better as town.
3. I find it fun to watch Vecna completely avoid commentary on my posts/opinion.
4. It's fun to watch BB try to be different but fall into similar tendencies (note: they aren't bad tendencies).
5. I am intrigued by what Bunny is planning right now, because we all know he has some sort of gimmick going on.

This is fun as hell for me. How about you Will? You having as much fun as me?

Bro, what did you do to Worcej?

I stuffed him into the basement and told him to put the lotion on his skin or else he gets the hose again.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 1.3

SpiritoftheRadio (4) - ghug, miminena, foodcoats, brainbomb
Red Neurax (2) - SpiritoftheRadio, kingofthepirates
ghug (2) - DiplomacyandWarfare, worcej
JustAGuyNamedWill (1) - Vecna

Unvoted (1) - DemonRHK

SPIRIToftheRADIO is set to be tied to a stake.

Bozotheclown and Red Neurax have not met the posting requirement.

28 hours and 36 minutes remain in Day One.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

##VOTE GHUG

Ghug/bunny/spirit

IM CALLING BOTH GAMES

[Vecna]

Will being taken aback by scrutiny is very on brand with his town game. Scum will tries to spin things back onto people. Its probably the survivor meta to be able to deflect scrutiny off of self onto someone else. Either way he doesnt do it as town.

Scum will is generally sparkly clear, and never comes under any real suspicion.

I dont even think he'd make that first post (formatted as is) as scum, since itll result in him looking bad.

Anyways, ive always found reasons to townread scum will and Im potentially doing it again

[kingofthepirates]

##VOTE GHUG

Ghug/bunny/spirit

IM CALLING BOTH GAMES

both games? please elaborate?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

@Spirit I’d like you to say

“I am town”

[Vecna]

I don't like worcej's plan (regardless of whether I'm on his list) and I think his picks are odd given his motivation (I think damo is actually more motivated to build consensus than most and Vecna's consistently low activity makes him less of that game-driving "good player" than me used to be). I think it's coming from a good place, though, and I think the questionableness of the logic is generally a sign that worcej is letting us see his real thought process.

this narrative of me being low activity is just weird. I just play a lot less games, but the games I play im usually in the top 5 posters

You're low activity to me because of your timing/availability. I few you similar as myself honestly - when you're here, you post a LOT, but then peace out for many hours.

scumpoints for being nice to me

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

##VOTE GHUG

Ghug/bunny/spirit

IM CALLING BOTH GAMES

both games? please elaborate?

Its a reference to a football announcer, no real game relevance

[Vecna]

The idea of a d1 verifiable alignment statement is so stupid. One of the stupidest things I've ever read on this website. Probably something Ghug or Bozo came up with.

#make web Dip mafia great agaiN

are you just gonna repeat the same point framed differently for the rest of the day?

[ghug]

I disagree with killing someone just cuz its interesting and different

Us LHF slots need to die somehow

I am a firm believe in voting based on merit on individual games. Just because someone is ‘good’ or ‘bad’ in one game does not mean they will be the same in another

Hence we should vote ghug vecna or damo if and only if they are scummy

Our communities town game performances dictate something needs to change.

Has town won non-mechanically in living memory?

I remember everything so yes.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ghug, whats your read on Spirit atm?

[ghug]

I don't like worcej's plan (regardless of whether I'm on his list) and I think his picks are odd given his motivation (I think damo is actually more motivated to build consensus than most and Vecna's consistently low activity makes him less of that game-driving "good player" than me used to be). I think it's coming from a good place, though, and I think the questionableness of the logic is generally a sign that worcej is letting us see his real thought process.

I feel like I have never seen ghug make a post like this.

Are ghug and worcej scum together?

Noting the confirmation bias for future reference.

[ghug]

What do you prioritize in looking for when choosing a D1 kill?

Note: scum is a shit answer here.

imo engagement is the big tell (while also taking track record into consideration, since iirc there are some players who notably pop off late game, such as chaqa). more messages is always a good thing. for looking at fellow town, it's more chances to see them rooting out mafia and more chances for productive discussion. for looking at mafia, it's more chances for a slip to come out, and more chances to learn the inner workings and reads and who they may want to eliminate, which can later be traced back.

This is a fallacy. Scum play very actively here; they don’t lurk. Only newscum really lurk on WebDip.

Scum lurk sometimes.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Ghug, whats your read on Spirit atm?

@ghug