MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

To expand - I feel ghug, damo, and Vecna prioritize expressing their opinions over listening to others and operate with the expectation (not a malicious expectation fwiw) of people to follow/sheep them.

I think it's interesting to entertain eliminating one of them on D1 as their style is very good at being maintained as scum and also can be a liability to the town in later stages of the game.

I think I just fundamentally disagree with killing someone based on playstyle

I’m just not worried about town winrate overall so much that I want to kill people just for the way they play

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Do you think the three players I named deserve to be kept past D1 just because they have their own opinions?

not just opinions, but experience and a strong ability to read others, as you yourself have said.

What do you prioritize in looking for when choosing a D1 kill?

Note: scum is a shit answer here.

Scum

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

true, but day 1 seems a bit harsh (day 2/3/4, maybe, get some of their reads and views out in the open, give them some time to analyze and stuff,etc.)... I also think that day 1 is the only day we actually have a 'choice' in kills (in all subsequent days, we play off reactions to death, views that can get people killed, etc.) and everything is a blank slate (maf doesn't chat/plan/coordinate, no investigative role info, etc.), and we shouldn't just knock someone with basically a proven track record (by your definition of "good").

Interesting you feel like we have a choice with D1 kills because, to me, the kill is usually decided at the last second and, due to this, I feel we have no choice in the kill. People make random no-tie votes and don't have strong opinions for the death.

The last-second daykills give us info to work with later. The problem is people insist on townreading people who push scum D1 when it's more likely to be scum on average.

Are you saying someone is more likely to be mafia if they push mafia?

[ghug]

Interesting you feel like we have a choice with D1 kills because, to me, the kill is usually decided at the last second and, due to this, I feel we have no choice in the kill. People make random no-tie votes and don't have strong opinions for the death.

The last-second daykills give us info to work with later. The problem is people insist on townreading people who push scum D1 when it's more likely to be scum on average.

Are you saying someone is more likely to be mafia if they push mafia?

More likely than average, yes.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 1.0

damo666 (2) - brainbomb, worcej
brainbomb (1) - DemonRHK
Red Neurax (1) - SpiritoftheRadio
SpiritoftheRadio (1) - ghug

Currently DAMO is accused of harbouring an unusual number of black cats.

Plenty of time remains in Day One.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

The last-second daykills give us info to work with later. The problem is people insist on townreading people who push scum D1 when it's more likely to be scum on average.

Are you saying someone is more likely to be mafia if they push mafia?

More likely than average, yes.

even if this is true, what are we accomplishing by telling everyone that if they push a mafia, they are more likely to be scumread?
For a specific example, it would be nice to have the 3p make a decent effort at genuinely scumreading because they would think it would get them towncred

##vote ghug

[damo666]

VOTE COUNT 1.0

damo666 (2) - brainbomb, worcej
brainbomb (1) - DemonRHK
Red Neurax (1) - SpiritoftheRadio
SpiritoftheRadio (1) - ghug

Currently DAMO is accused of harbouring an unusual number of black cats.

Plenty of time remains in Day One.

I categorically deny harbouring felines of any colour.

[BunnyGo]

Are you saying someone is more likely to be mafia if they push mafia?

More likely than average, yes.

even if this is true, what are we accomplishing by telling everyone that if they push a mafia, they are more likely to be scumread?
For a specific example, it would be nice to have the 3p make a decent effort at genuinely scumreading because they would think it would get them towncred

##vote ghug

Nah. That’s towny ghug statement

[damo666]

So, we know worcej and brain are misguided town.

[miminena]

VOTE COUNT 1.0

damo666 (2) - brainbomb, worcej
brainbomb (1) - DemonRHK
Red Neurax (1) - SpiritoftheRadio
SpiritoftheRadio (1) - ghug

Currently DAMO is accused of harbouring an unusual number of black cats.

Plenty of time remains in Day One.

I categorically deny harbouring felines of any colour.

only a murderer would refuse the joy of a cat... or someone who's allergic to them

if damo is not allergic to cats, I think they must be mafia :3

[BunnyGo]

So, we know worcej and brain are misguided town.

This post is the first time I’ve wondered if they’re misguided

[brainbomb]

##Vote foodcoats

[DemonRHK]

##Unvote

[Red Neurax]

VOTE COUNT 1.0

damo666 (2) - brainbomb, worcej
brainbomb (1) - DemonRHK
Red Neurax (1) - SpiritoftheRadio
SpiritoftheRadio (1) - ghug

Currently DAMO is accused of harbouring an unusual number of black cats.

Plenty of time remains in Day One.

I categorically deny harbouring felines of any colour.

only a murderer would refuse the joy of a cat... or someone who's allergic to them

if damo is not allergic to cats, I think they must be mafia :3

you seem to hold cats in high regard

[miminena]

I categorically deny harbouring felines of any colour.

only a murderer would refuse the joy of a cat... or someone who's allergic to them

if damo is not allergic to cats, I think they must be mafia :3

you seem to hold cats in high regard

of course I do, do you not?

[kingofthepirates]

Hey red neurax, what do you think of the game so far? Anyone particularly piqued your interest/set off any bells (for town or scum)?

Same questions to you miminena

[damo666]

Don't be gung ho, casual or jokey with votes. It makes it too easy for a Warlock.

I choose to disregard this advice.

Only applies from D2 onwards.

[kingofthepirates]

For me (after doing a quick run though on the bot and stewing over last night):
Worcej feels towny, the D1 voting motivation discussion gives good vibes (though I do disagree with voting based on one’s own “interest”)

ND, why are ya so cynical :< not a fan of the vibes but feels towny as well (has the greater interests of town in mind). Any thoughts on specific players though? Feel like that’s the only thing you havent commented on (to be fair yes it is pretty early but still, any thoughts are better than none)

Haven’t got scum vibes from anyone really.

[damo666]

Players who have posted but not made a useful testable statement on alignment:

ND
RedNeurax
Spirit
worcej

Non-posters

Bozo
Vecna

Will vote from this pool of 6 (unless all 6 make a useful verifiable alignment statement, in which case back to square 1).

[damo666]

There are 3 players who have claimed/hinted they are vt.

Considering Vincent Price has a 50% chance of being a lie detector this is a useful claim to scum so is inherently scummy.

Two of those 3 are in my pool of 6.