MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#221 Post by worcej » Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:29 am

kingofthepirates wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:26 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:24 am
So, and I am paraphrasing here, but you'd prefer a lurker/low content poster on D1?
with exceptions ofc but yeah
Would you say this is typically a deciding factor in the "chaos period" of vote movements on D1?

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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#222 Post by Red Neurax » Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:29 am

kingofthepirates wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:26 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:24 am
So, and I am paraphrasing here, but you'd prefer a lurker/low content poster on D1?
with exceptions ofc but yeah
isnt that the strategy every time

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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#223 Post by kingofthepirates » Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:31 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:29 am
kingofthepirates wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:26 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:24 am
So, and I am paraphrasing here, but you'd prefer a lurker/low content poster on D1?
with exceptions ofc but yeah
Would you say this is typically a deciding factor in the "chaos period" of vote movements on D1?
for my vote, yes, I'd say so. Or at least, it should be.
As astra per amorem

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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#224 Post by ghug » Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:31 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:21 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:20 am
I don't like worcej's plan (regardless of whether I'm on his list) and I think his picks are odd given his motivation (I think damo is actually more motivated to build consensus than most and Vecna's consistently low activity makes him less of that game-driving "good player" than me used to be). I think it's coming from a good place, though, and I think the questionableness of the logic is generally a sign that worcej is letting us see his real thought process.
TL;DR - "worcej is town because his opinion is bad."

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"Worcej is town because he has an opinion. Also worcej's opinions are always bad." might be more accurate. :razz:

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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#225 Post by worcej » Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:32 am

Red Neurax wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:29 am
kingofthepirates wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:26 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:24 am
So, and I am paraphrasing here, but you'd prefer a lurker/low content poster on D1?
with exceptions ofc but yeah
isnt that the strategy every time
It shouldn't be.

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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#226 Post by worcej » Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:32 am

kingofthepirates wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:31 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:29 am
kingofthepirates wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:26 am

with exceptions ofc but yeah
Would you say this is typically a deciding factor in the "chaos period" of vote movements on D1?
for my vote, yes, I'd say so. Or at least, it should be.
Explain the "should be" lol

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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#227 Post by kingofthepirates » Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:34 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:32 am
kingofthepirates wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:31 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:29 am
Would you say this is typically a deciding factor in the "chaos period" of vote movements on D1?
for my vote, yes, I'd say so. Or at least, it should be.
Explain the "should be" lol
its my policy now and going forward. i don't remember in the past, but it should be my voting pattern
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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#228 Post by worcej » Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:35 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:31 am
worcej wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:21 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:20 am
I don't like worcej's plan (regardless of whether I'm on his list) and I think his picks are odd given his motivation (I think damo is actually more motivated to build consensus than most and Vecna's consistently low activity makes him less of that game-driving "good player" than me used to be). I think it's coming from a good place, though, and I think the questionableness of the logic is generally a sign that worcej is letting us see his real thought process.
TL;DR - "worcej is town because his opinion is bad."

:razz:
"Worcej is town because he has an opinion. Also worcej's opinions are always bad." might be more accurate. :razz:
I mean, your bias on this opinion is rather obvious :razz:

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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#229 Post by worcej » Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:36 am

But humor me ghug - what is the most important criteria you look for when assessing a D1 kill?

Again, "scum" is a shit answer here.

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#230 Post by ghug » Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:43 am

worcej wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:36 am
But humor me ghug - what is the most important criteria you look for when assessing a D1 kill?

Again, "scum" is a shit answer here.
My primary goal day 1 is to generate townreads and keep them alive. My secondary goal day 1 is to create enough movement to start giving us actionable information. Occasionally I'll get lost down a tunnel.

All else being equal, I'll usually vote for someone lurkier/harder to read. I can see the drawback to that approach, but I also think having lurkers around into the later days also has drawbacks, so I still think it's OK.

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#231 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:09 am

SpiritoftheRadio wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:43 pm
DiplomacyandWarfare wrote:
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"This statement is false"
this post is a pipe
the cake is a lie
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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#232 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:11 am

SpiritoftheRadio wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:55 pm
DiplomacyandWarfare wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:53 pm
SpiritoftheRadio wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:41 pm


personally, I'll be expressing my current state of mind via different John silver avatars

also i was roleblocked
isn't changing avatars very, very banned?
is it? I feel like I've seen jamie do it a bunch, but idk. If it is a problem, I can settle on one, and use the trove of saved ones i have to make an unhinged reads post, not that i wasnt gunna do that anyway
yes...he does...
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#233 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:20 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:29 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:09 pm
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I am one of: Richard Marshall, Oliver Cromwell, John Lowes, Sara Lowes, or a vanilla townsperson.
This is for the town lie detector

We should all say this

If it comes up as a lie to them then they know we are mafia or 3p

If it comes up as truth we are town

Ezpz

Everyone should say this
Oh good it's mechanics
My lie detector returned "Sarcasm detected"

Good thing I win when town wins!
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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#234 Post by SpiritoftheRadio » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:25 am

-----------------------------Most town vibes
DiplomacyandWarfare
JustAGuyNamedWill
kingofthepirates
N.D.
Brainbomb
BunnyGo
damo666
miminena
Ghug
DemonRHK
-------------------------------least town vibes

non-posters:
Red Neurax
Foodcoats
bozo
Vecna

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#235 Post by ND » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:25 am

1. There is no such thing as a "new" player. Everyone has access to the game start post. Everyone has the ability to read said post. Presumably, everyone has the ability to reason -although as I will state below, this is a rarity.
2. Stating that you are a "new" player is meaningless. Stating you will help or protect a new player is not in the spirit of the game. By doing so, you limit your own ability to reason or deduce motivation.
3. There is no such thing as a "good" player. This is not objective, but subjective. As in, everyone has their own idea about what qualifies as "good".
4. Stating that someone is "good" is akin to poisoning a well. Considering that while everyone has access to the game start post, not everyone has access to fifteen years of meaningless, subjective opinion.
5. Limiting any vote to a subjective pool is a strange suggestion at best and highly suspect at worst.
6. The loudest person in the room often sets the terms of the conversation. This can lead to a consensus, but not through reason. I look for those that follow along. I look for those who drive a false conversation about an irrelevancy at an early stage. I look for slips and people who abruptly change their vote to hop onto something that is a 'sure' thing. I look for people who try to make a 'friend' because this certainly isn't the game for it. If you want to be 'good' in your own mind then I challenge each of you to play this with an eye towards making a reasonable deduction and not to be labeled 'good' by someone on an internet forum.

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#236 Post by ND » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:27 am

Oh and because I just saw Spirit's post above. How do you give a 'least town vibe' to people who haven't posted yet? That isn't reasonable.

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#237 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:35 am

ND wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:25 am
1. There is no such thing as a "new" player. Everyone has access to the game start post. Everyone has the ability to read said post. Presumably, everyone has the ability to reason -although as I will state below, this is a rarity.
2. Stating that you are a "new" player is meaningless. Stating you will help or protect a new player is not in the spirit of the game. By doing so, you limit your own ability to reason or deduce motivation.
3. There is no such thing as a "good" player. This is not objective, but subjective. As in, everyone has their own idea about what qualifies as "good".
4. Stating that someone is "good" is akin to poisoning a well. Considering that while everyone has access to the game start post, not everyone has access to fifteen years of meaningless, subjective opinion.
5. Limiting any vote to a subjective pool is a strange suggestion at best and highly suspect at worst.
6. The loudest person in the room often sets the terms of the conversation. This can lead to a consensus, but not through reason. I look for those that follow along. I look for those who drive a false conversation about an irrelevancy at an early stage. I look for slips and people who abruptly change their vote to hop onto something that is a 'sure' thing. I look for people who try to make a 'friend' because this certainly isn't the game for it. If you want to be 'good' in your own mind then I challenge each of you to play this with an eye towards making a reasonable deduction and not to be labeled 'good' by someone on an internet forum.

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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#238 Post by BunnyGo » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:39 am

worcej I do believe is town.

king of the pirates is the least likely to be town of the early conversation posters (Just, king, spirit)

ND needs to add whitespace

brain seems townier than scummier

ghug is sarcastic

red is here too so is damo.

Did you all realize that claiming you're not town works just as well for the lie detector? Also, if you really wanted to help the detector you'd give them more than just "crappy cop", could easily have a single post with:

I am town
I am the witch/warlock
I am a PR
I am scum
etc.etc. etc.

But yay! mechs!
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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#239 Post by ghug » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:53 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:20 am
ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 1:29 am
JustAGuyNamedWill wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:09 pm


This is for the town lie detector

We should all say this

If it comes up as a lie to them then they know we are mafia or 3p

If it comes up as truth we are town

Ezpz

Everyone should say this
Oh good it's mechanics
My lie detector returned "Sarcasm detected"

Good thing I win when town wins!
Nice inconclusive statement ya got there.

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Re: MAFIA 92 - The return of the Witchfinder General [GAME THREAD]

#240 Post by SpiritoftheRadio » Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:55 am

ND wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:27 am
Oh and because I just saw Spirit's post above. How do you give a 'least town vibe' to people who haven't posted yet? That isn't reasonable.

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non-posters are outside the spectrum, they have no vibe as they have yet to vib

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