Mafia XL - A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum

[damo666]

The time has come...

DemonRHK is indeed scum. ##VOTE Demon

I claim to be a Town PR with knowledge that DemonRHK is lieing, I'd rather not provide additional detail unless a majority do not believe me.

I waited to counterclaim in hopes that my outing would at least provide us with some additional information based on their play. That said, it is certainly WIFOM as they knew 1-2 of us already know they are lieing and that it would eventually come out. Furthermore, I feel that it is important to have the box be in the hands of town at this junction. I believe Balki was unaware that if the box was empty it would not explode if the user uses the list (I think Fox/Brain are doing an incredible job... but that element seems very contrary to the set-up language). That said, he unfortunately passed the box to scum.

I said a cc would be inevitable. Now who to believe?

A scum DemonRHK would explain away all ND's worries.

RHK gave a list of his 'observations'. I think they can only be proved false if doc was included but then they would have to reveal.

How can we verify DrCJG's assertion?

DrC can you provide your list of observations. I assume you are claiming Obs as Doc wouldn't prove RHK lying.

[rdrivera2005]

@DrCJ - Why wait until so close to EOD?

@AskGM - What happen with the Box at night if the box holder is lynched?

[damo666]

I don't think any scum was under much threat today... again.

note 'again'

Why should we note 'again'?

Day 1 & Day 2. Possibly now redundant post drCJG claim

[DrCJG]

@DrCJ - Why wait until so close to EOD?

@AskGM - What happen with the Box at night if the box holder is lynched?

At this time, I will only state that I hoped to gain more information based on the scum play today.

I believe it will be passed to a random player

[rdrivera2005]

OK, continuing to sheep Squigs:

##VOTE damo666

Come on, this guy can't be town

##vote Flash

Why is sheeping a confirmed town scum indicative?

Because you don't give a single own thought or effort and neither accountability for your vote. First time ok, you think I am scum and Squigs are voting for me, it's fine. But then you just sheep him into Damo. If you are really town start giving your thoughts we don't have many mislynches.

[flash2015]

I don't personally understand why it will matter much whether DrCJG declares his role. If he doesn't provide anymore information and is telling the truth, it narrows it down to one possible option.

[Foxcastle]

@AskGM - What happen with the Box at night if the box holder is lynched?

It is immediately given to another player at random (excepting the player that had it immediately prior to the lynchee).

[ND]

##unvote

I need to consider this. But, my gut is telling me bullshit. But, I need to think.

[flash2015]

Oh wait.

[damo666]

DrC without revealing please explain how if you are doc you know demonRHK lying?

In absence of realistic answer

##vote DrCJG

[flash2015]

Oh wait.

There are more options (I forgot about the box items). OK, that makes more sense.

[DrCJG]

The time has come...

DemonRHK is indeed scum. ##VOTE Demon

I claim to be a Town PR with knowledge that DemonRHK is lieing, I'd rather not provide additional detail unless a majority do not believe me.

I waited to counterclaim in hopes that my outing would at least provide us with some additional information based on their play. That said, it is certainly WIFOM as they knew 1-2 of us already know they are lieing and that it would eventually come out. Furthermore, I feel that it is important to have the box be in the hands of town at this junction. I believe Balki was unaware that if the box was empty it would not explode if the user uses the list (I think Fox/Brain are doing an incredible job... but that element seems very contrary to the set-up language). That said, he unfortunately passed the box to scum.

I said a cc would be inevitable. Now who to believe?

A scum DemonRHK would explain away all ND's worries.

RHK gave a list of his 'observations'. I think they can only be proved false if doc was included but then they would have to reveal.

How can we verify DrCJG's assertion?

DrC can you provide your list of observations. I assume you are claiming Obs as Doc wouldn't prove RHK lying.

I am not claiming a specific PR at this time. The Doctor could know if RHK is lying:

So no one visited any of the people you visited?

Not for the last three nights.

Though it would be tough for him to prove it.

[damo666]

Oh wait.

There are more options (I forgot about the box items). OK, that makes more sense.

What?

[damo666]

The time has come...

DemonRHK is indeed scum. ##VOTE Demon

I claim to be a Town PR with knowledge that DemonRHK is lieing, I'd rather not provide additional detail unless a majority do not believe me.

I waited to counterclaim in hopes that my outing would at least provide us with some additional information based on their play. That said, it is certainly WIFOM as they knew 1-2 of us already know they are lieing and that it would eventually come out. Furthermore, I feel that it is important to have the box be in the hands of town at this junction. I believe Balki was unaware that if the box was empty it would not explode if the user uses the list (I think Fox/Brain are doing an incredible job... but that element seems very contrary to the set-up language). That said, he unfortunately passed the box to scum.

I said a cc would be inevitable. Now who to believe?

A scum DemonRHK would explain away all ND's worries.

RHK gave a list of his 'observations'. I think they can only be proved false if doc was included but then they would have to reveal.

How can we verify DrCJG's assertion?

DrC can you provide your list of observations. I assume you are claiming Obs as Doc wouldn't prove RHK lying.

I am not claiming a specific PR at this time. The Doctor could know if RHK is lying:

So no one visited any of the people you visited?

Not for the last three nights.

Though it would be tough for him to prove it.

demonRHK meant of course to say 'not the person I visited on each of the 3 nights'.

So for the doctor to know RHK lying doc would have had to have visited someone THE SAME NIGHT as the observer (forgetting driver for a moment). That's fairly low probability.

[DrCJG]

Well 1) No... the Doctor would simply have to have visited the person that RHK is claiming to have visited; and 2) I don't think it is that unlikely.

[damo666]

I am the observer.
I obs’d xorx N1 and saw him visit Szpoti.
I obs’d Durga N2, no action.
I obs’d ND N3, no action.
I obs’d worc last night, no action.

In addition, I now have the box.

I feel like, if this is true, you are very silly to reveal that you saw no action for 3 people.

I’m not going to hide anything. We need all the information we can gather now. Even though it’s now 50/50 that I’m dead to the box.

For reference to make it easier.

[damo666]

Well 1) No... the Doctor would simply have to have visited the person that RHK is claiming to have visited; and 2) I don't think it is that unlikely.

1 ON THE SAME NIGHT

[damo666]

For example if doc visited Durga N3 observer wouldn't have seen anything

[ND]

I don't like how this is being done late in day just in time to influence vote. Why not do this at start of day @Dr

Doing it so late makes me think scum manipulation.

[DrCJG]

For example if doc visited Durga N3 observer wouldn't have seen anything

Lol, yes Damo... I understand.

I am saying that either I am observer... or I am doctor who visited Durga, ND, and Worc the same night that RHK is claiming no one else visited.

I will also go ahead and say that regardless of which PR I am, I visited Vecna N1