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Re: M1034: SOLE SURVIVOR: GAME THREAD

#101 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:42 am

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:03 am
Jamie was not his. usual talkee self. Come. back jamie.
I was busy last night, went to the gym and then the pub.
I'm here now.
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#102 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:43 am

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Hiya fellas, I feel like running a good old Juggernaut today

%%vote Austria
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#103 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:44 am

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My dad's quite a good one. I'll steal his clout until I get some of my own (also I just think the name sounds nice)
Hmm. You are the son of someone who already plays here? Who's that?
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#104 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:47 am

I'm caught up.

Dip&War looks a bit shady.

Ghug is very low intensity, he normally has more to say on D1.

Bona spaffing his vote early without reading the setup is NAI.

Damo calling on me to post more when he's said almost nothing is slightly suspect.

I like the "Vote only once" mechanic, it's an interesting new dynamic.

%%Vote Diplo

Those are my comments so far.
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#105 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:56 am

I think Bona's lmao realisation suggests town.

Jamie's recent posts townish.

Dip nai.

Policy not voting noobs day 1.

Darg's mid day vote suggestion daft and unworkable but nai.

Will probably vote food darg or maybe ghug.

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#106 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:58 am

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#107 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:08 pm

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Questionable whether this meets the definition of a game related post.
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#108 Post by dargorygel » Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:31 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:56 am
I think Bona's lmao realisation suggests town.

Jamie's recent posts townish.

Dip nai.

Policy not voting noobs day 1.

Darg's mid day vote suggestion daft and unworkable but nai.

Will probably vote food darg or maybe ghug.
I do not understand this conclusion.

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Re: M1034: SOLE SURVIVOR: GAME THREAD

#109 Post by dargorygel » Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:34 pm

StraightFlush wrote:
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Can someone give me some meta info about Dip? 34 really rubs me the wrong way, I don't agree with the comparison he's making at all. In general I tend to be suspicious of try-too-hard players like he looks to be.
Dip pokes at this kind of thing as either alignment. (by 'this kind of thing' I mean making a mountain out of a mole hill.)

Feel free to disagree with him. :-) I do.

Have you played any other form of Mafia-type games before?

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#110 Post by dargorygel » Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:35 pm

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When this phrase by you, damo, showed up at the top of my feed, I thought you had gone to the trouble of making a post count for the game!

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#111 Post by DiplomacyandWarfare » Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:46 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:56 am
DiplomacyandWarfare wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:14 am
foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:16 am


I think that town analysis may actually benefit from this single vote rule. Or, at least, it'll be a wash. There's a lot to parse in how, why and when a person votes in this setup.
Interesting.
By that logic, would an arbitrarily small postcap, say, 10 posts, also give more information, because more thought would be put into each post?
Moreover, did you or did you not see bona's vote before you wrote this post?
what did you expect to contribute with this post?
I was going to use the response to analyze foodcoat's opinion and determine whether it was genuine or scum trying to slow down the d1
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#112 Post by dargorygel » Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:48 pm

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At this point, because the GM has not made an announcement... trust his VC more than the bot's.

I put this up for searchability reasons.

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#113 Post by DiplomacyandWarfare » Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:52 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:45 am
DiplomacyandWarfare wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:14 am
foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:16 am


I think that town analysis may actually benefit from this single vote rule. Or, at least, it'll be a wash. There's a lot to parse in how, why and when a person votes in this setup.
Interesting.
By that logic, would an arbitrarily small postcap, say, 10 posts, also give more information, because more thought would be put into each post?
Moreover, did you or did you not see bona's vote before you wrote this post?
I would say no, because scum can do a bang up job of looking like town in their posts… whereas I was thinking that scum really need to commit to bussing or not bussing in this setup. That said, thinking about it more, it’s not really any easier and indeed may be harder. I guess I was being overly optimistic.

And yes, I believe I had seen bona’s post. His silliness is NAI.
In fact, here's my analysis:
The decision that the 1-vote limit makes this more difficult for us town after considering my analogy of a postcap looks fairly natural. Town points for that.

On the other hand, my question deliberately went too ways. The first being reads on bona, and the second being whether or not bona's silly vote was evidence that 1-vote is definitely not going to help town.
Somehow food starting a conversation about this and then missing a chance to discuss it feels... vaguely off. Like if I (in the context of scumreading dargorygel heavily) was asked how that factors into my read of red, and I said that I thought Red and Damo were paired.
in total this post is mostly neutral
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#114 Post by DiplomacyandWarfare » Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:54 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:01 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:58 am
DiplomacyandWarfare wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:17 am


Well, there we go. This is hard evidence that Red is town if at least one of these two is maf.
lmao??
Dip defines hard evidence in a way that is hard to believe.
are you two making a joke out of missing my joke, or did you genuinely miss it?
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#115 Post by DiplomacyandWarfare » Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:59 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:57 am
DiplomacyandWarfare wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:16 am
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:40 am
I don't know what i think... mostly no, because everyone won't do it. But I can see some value later.

Dip is kinda jumping to conclusions... basically he analyzed me because I wrote something. While uber annoying, it doesn't ping scum for me.
Incident #2 of dargorygel editing out stuff from posts that are written in a casual tone
Also, you forgot to say "Wadda" and "diminish"
what are you saying? not intending this in a hostile tone but i have no clue what you're talking about
First of all, dargorygel was saying "Wadda" and "diminish" in a bunch of posts after I pointed out the vaguely different vibes of those two words earlier

Secondly, town players definitely edit posts, but players writing quick, casual posts don't...
...and that's the vibe a lot of dargorygel's early posts went for, which, as can be seen, were likely edited. So which is more likely?
(a) dargorygel spent a lot of time writing a few posts, but was also writing in a casual, fast-paced tone
or
(b) dargorygel is trying to fake a casual tone for whatever reason (most reasons would imply, in turn, that dargorygel is scum)
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#116 Post by DiplomacyandWarfare » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:00 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:22 am
dargorygel wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:52 am
DiplomacyandWarfare wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:17 am


Let's kickstart the overanalyzing

"Hiya Red" is very casual, which seems like buddying.

"the one vote thing" is also very casual and... weirdly vague. "thing"?

there's a big gap where it looks like darg edited out some stuff. The odd thing about this is, the rest of the post looks casual and underdeveloped. The quick, casual style of writing does not fit logically with editing out a portion of it. Unless, of course, darg is intentionally trying to seem casual as part of a buddying scheme

also, who writes "diminish" and "Wadda you think" in the same post? Other than if you were going for two different vibes in your post, then edited out a bunch of it.

finally, the entire thing sort of... passively pushes at the enemy being the rules, and not the mafia

PS: Editing a post is normally NAI. Editing a seemingly casual post is what I find suspicious

TLDR: After some overanalyzing, I scumread dargorygel
You are odd. Wadda think of that? Does it diminish my scumminess to you?
Dip, do you know that there's always a gap under short posts because of the avatar and profile info?
talking about multiple spaces in a row
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#117 Post by DiplomacyandWarfare » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:02 pm

Red Neurax wrote:
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ghug wrote:
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DiplomacyandWarfare wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:19 am


If I, hypothetically, took this bet and won it, would you, hypothetically speaking, play an immunity idol that you hypothetically had on me?
Hypothetically speaking, of course.
No
what was your reason to bring up the idol
I want the idol played on me
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Re: M1034: SOLE SURVIVOR: GAME THREAD

#118 Post by dargorygel » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:14 pm

DiplomacyandWarfare wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:59 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:57 am
DiplomacyandWarfare wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:16 am


Incident #2 of dargorygel editing out stuff from posts that are written in a casual tone
Also, you forgot to say "Wadda" and "diminish"
what are you saying? not intending this in a hostile tone but i have no clue what you're talking about
First of all, dargorygel was saying "Wadda" and "diminish" in a bunch of posts after I pointed out the vaguely different vibes of those two words earlier

Secondly, town players definitely edit posts, but players writing quick, casual posts don't...
...and that's the vibe a lot of dargorygel's early posts went for, which, as can be seen, were likely edited. So which is more likely?
(a) dargorygel spent a lot of time writing a few posts, but was also writing in a casual, fast-paced tone
or
(b) dargorygel is trying to fake a casual tone for whatever reason (most reasons would imply, in turn, that dargorygel is scum)
Ok... I understand that you see something (that I, and I don't think anyone else sees... you simply state "clearly" I am editing... which sounds really odd to my ears because I know I am not editing. )

But what really is catching my eye is that weird OoG thing has become what you are hanging your investigative hat on. That has become for you something to 'heavily' scum read me for.

I still think it is NAI... but it is starting to swing me.

In general
I would vote for damo (his conclusion of his comments seems illogical, which is not like damo...), or straight (just vibes). I think bona, and ghug, and jamie are particularly town.

Food is playing well, reasonable, not going down rabbit trails. But I will wait for his conclusions to push him off null.

Jamie says he likes the one vote gimmick. I am not sure I do. VCA is more a part of my foundational thinking than perhaps i have been aware.

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#119 Post by foodcoats » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:29 pm

dargorygel wrote:
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Jamie was not his. usual talkee self. Come. back jamie.
Jamie often disappears after his hellos, but I was surprised he said fellow people and not fellow castaways or something. Why is he not cleaving to the fluff? Might he be scum? :smirk:

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#120 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:48 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
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damo666 wrote:
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Questionable whether this meets the definition of a game related post.
agree

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