The original nativity scene and how it was made

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Re: The original nativity scene and how it was made

#21 Post by CaptainFritz28 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:30 pm

MajorMitchell wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:48 am
Well which of the two opposing versions of the slaughter of young makes on the alleged orders of King Herod that you have presented In your psts is the fkn one you assert is "trus according to the Bible" (with NO OTHER EVIDENCE) dear Learned Sloth?

In your first mention if it in the quotation of a selective portion of scripture ending with the "great lamentations" etc that would have aroused great interest amongst the Roman rulers of Palestine and been controversial and recorded in other sources but us not....

However when you need to refute my inconvenient contributions on the issue, ask I ng "where is supporting evidence?"...
Then suddenly, et voila~ the slaughter of the make children was barely noticed?

And your evasive "Where is the evidence it didn't happen?" is such a pathetic attempt at avoiding admitting there is no evidence other than what is concocted in scriptures
Flavius Josephus describes Herod as greatly disliked by the Jews, and accounts many evil and murderous actions that he took. For example, he ordered that the leading men of Israel be rounded up and killed when Herod died so that all of Israel would have to mourn his death. The Jews were trying insurrection anyway, so the idea that they'd rise up against him is silly because they were doing that regardless, just not successfully. He certainly had the means to do it, as sure the Romans were the military power but Herod wasn't completely devoid of power either. His building projects display that. And this isn't a military campaign. It's killing two year olds. So it's not out of character for Herod to do so (I mean, he killed his own wife and three sons...), he had the means to do it, and the consequences of doing it weren't difficult for him to handle. There's no reason to discount Matthew's account, and as for extra-Biblical evidence...

The non Christian historian Macrobius records this event. Do some research. It's not hard.
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Re: The original nativity scene and how it was made

#22 Post by learnedSloth » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:10 am

MajorMitchell wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:48 am
Well which of the two opposing versions of the slaughter of young makes on the alleged orders of King Herod that you have presented In your psts is the fkn one you assert is "trus according to the Bible" (with NO OTHER EVIDENCE) dear Learned Sloth?

In your first mention if it in the quotation of a selective portion of scripture ending with the "great lamentations" etc that would have aroused great interest amongst the Roman rulers of Palestine and been controversial and recorded in other sources but us not....

However when you need to refute my inconvenient contributions on the issue, ask I ng "where is supporting evidence?"...
Then suddenly, et voila~ the slaughter of the make children was barely noticed?
It was a local tragedy, but not significant enough for historians.
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Re: The original nativity scene and how it was made

#23 Post by MajorMitchell » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:06 am

Well done Captain Fritz, thank you.
King Herod was a cruel tyrant, a typical ruler of his times.
Probably an extremely paranoid man willing to believe superstitious gossip?

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