Mafia 1033 - The Next Generation [Hidden]

[dargorygel]

As I intimated yesterday, I am not available much today... work, driving, celebrating. I will try to pop in, but I cannot promise.

Please do not end.

I first thought no-kill was sort of obvious. But I have been convinced otherwise. I would expect scum to be more thought-out on this than I was, so I AM concerned that we are missing some nuance. But I also am now a bot sis of people pushing.

At the very least, no kill avoids the pressure cooker of votes. And that is a loss for town, but a gain for scum.

@vecna. My secret tell on you is something i wish I had never brought up. I DID describe it to you privately, once. So I am sort of surprised you did it. THAT is part of why I omgus'ed, I think. It also is somehting that usually is more better in the earlier days. I had grown less sus of you, and suddently you did the tell. Regarding the logic of your 'case,' it was not illogical. From my pov, it was niggling at something that is NAI. In musing, my mind often wanders faster than my keyboard.

I don't like this state. We are floundering, because scum has been shiny clean.

For now, for openness' sake, since I will be 'absent' until morning coffee tomorow, I am MOST susp of bona, damo, and maybe red. But that doesn't mean i am UNsus of ghug, vecna, and bozo. I am most most most susp of will.

I often begin games assuming everyone is scum. Townreads are harder for me than scumreads. This game, this has come back to bite me.

for now, I will ##VOTE JUST

That said... I am MUSING that the scum team is experienced, gifted, and clever. REALLY experienced, gifted, and clever.

[dargorygel]

OS
ghug is in his zen mode, which I associate with town for him.

[Vecna]

I dont think you ever told me what it is, and I was under the impression it was a town-tell, not a scum-tell.

If i can go into our conversations and find it, care to just save me the trouble and say what it is?

Because now im curious what in that big post could possibly be a scumtell to you.

[Vecna]

i found the conversation, even though you stated what it ties into, I still dont think I can really deduce from that what it is.

[BunnyGo]

##call gm

sorry to do this, because this is obviously what you already discussed as what could happen before the start, but can you give a ruling how many times scum can continue to NOKILL?

were there any scenarios where the nightkill becomes mandatory?

If town no-kill today then scum must kill.

If town kill today, scum can do whatever they like.

Sorry for the lack of flavor. I’m tired and drugged up.

[damo666]

I'll b shocked in town win this.

@darg don't worry was only discussing hammer in context of a no kill.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

If y'all want to no kill you have to at least verbalize why you think it's a better choice.

You really don't think it's damo and Bozo, Vecna?

Damo no, vecna probably no, bozo maybe however leaning no

Im a bit lost in the game right now

I think getting a kill will be helpful for info because we are all just hanging around doing nothing and everyones got a different solve and different suspects and nothings going to get done

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

On a side note, I dont think mafia Vecna openly states he has no freaking clue whats going on. I think he still tries to push some way or the other

Could be faked, but im leaning towards it being genuine

[Bonatogether]

i think the main thing here is that the majority people think bona is mafia
hence why we should vote him out

normally it goes the other way - people get voted because a majority of people think they're scum.

quite literally what i said

if it was true that people scumread me, i would have died already. think about your statement

[Bonatogether]

##vote darg

[ghug]

##VOTE damo

[bozotheclown]

also its good to know that darg normally prides himself in having a hidden tell that reveals my allignment to him.

he's caught me with it twice I think, and he often talks about it.

but now ive suddenly fooled him out of nowhere while having a pretty valid concern in a world of weaksauce, while Ive been playing like my own town self more recently.

im not saying ive convinced myself fully, but in a game where theres hardly anything tangible to go on, id think that a factual person like darg (or BOZO, why the fuck has bozo not responded to this factual disparity) would understand people would be suspicious of his behaviour.

I don't know what disparity you are referring to here.

[bozotheclown]

##vote ghug

lets test how much conviction bozo had in that connecting theory of his between you and red.

I don't like the taunting, but OK.

##VOTE ghug

[Vecna]

also its good to know that darg normally prides himself in having a hidden tell that reveals my allignment to him.

he's caught me with it twice I think, and he often talks about it.

but now ive suddenly fooled him out of nowhere while having a pretty valid concern in a world of weaksauce, while Ive been playing like my own town self more recently.

im not saying ive convinced myself fully, but in a game where theres hardly anything tangible to go on, id think that a factual person like darg (or BOZO, why the fuck has bozo not responded to this factual disparity) would understand people would be suspicious of his behaviour.

I don't know what disparity you are referring to here.

the one i described in one of my very big walls.

The one where damo did an entire vote analysis of the dip vs bona thing, but forgot his own vote, and claimed he never voted dip (the vote was in decently stark contradiction with his earlier reads throughout the day).

[Vecna]

have you had any changes in how you view the game bozo?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I thought we were no killing

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

I need to reread bozo and darg. Feel like I havent reevaled them as much

[ghug]

##vote ghug

lets test how much conviction bozo had in that connecting theory of his between you and red.

I don't like the taunting, but OK.

##VOTE ghug

Oh look, bozo's voting for me.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

##vote ghug

lets test how much conviction bozo had in that connecting theory of his between you and red.

I don't like the taunting, but OK.

##VOTE ghug

Vecna bozo what are you doing

Ghug is pretty nicely town this game

@bozo do you think Red is mafia here? if you are banking this vote on if Ghug is paired with Red then why are you not voting Red?

Also Red is town so I still dont see the connection

[Red Neurax]

join us in voting damo666, and later bona